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That Guy 02-27-2012 02:47 PM

Re: FA WR in Vjax and RW
 
I'm not sure i'd be standing in line to beat 35 mill for garcon...

44Deezel 02-27-2012 03:04 PM

Re: FA WR in Vjax and RW
 
I heart Vincent Jackson, but he's 29 and a bit too much of a primadonna. Eddie Royal is only 25. The last 10 Super Bowl winners have proven you don't need an elite WR to win it all.

The top flight guys of the last few years havent faired too well when it comes to Championships - Fitz, TO, Moss, Megatron, Andre Johnson, etc. We just need great QB play surrounded by good enough talent. No need to overreach or over pay for a WR.

skinsfan69 02-27-2012 03:34 PM

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Don't want Jackson or Wayne. Jackson has too much baggage and Wayne is too old. No thanks.

skinsfan69 02-27-2012 03:36 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;884805]This makes sense for both sides

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/12/reggie-wayne-hasnt-heard-from-colts-open-to-playing-for-patriots/"]Reggie Wayne hasn’t heard from Colts, open to playing for Patriots | ProFootballTalk[/URL][/quote]

I'm sure Wayne would do well for the Pats but they need to burner.

MTK 02-29-2012 04:59 PM

Re: FA WR in Vjax and RW
 
PFT with some breaking news here

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/29/redskins-plan-to-sign-a-high-profile-receiver/]Redskins plan to sign a high-profile receiver | ProFootballTalk[/url]

NYCskinfan82 02-29-2012 05:03 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;890392][B]PFT with some breaking news here[/B]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/29/redskins-plan-to-sign-a-high-profile-receiver/]Redskins plan to sign a high-profile receiver | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

I hear the sarcasm in your voice.

Lotus 02-29-2012 05:11 PM

Re: FA WR in Vjax and RW
 
[quote=Mattyk;890392]PFT with some breaking news here

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/29/redskins-plan-to-sign-a-high-profile-receiver/]Redskins plan to sign a high-profile receiver | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

I like how we "never hesitate to spend big in free agency," despite the fact that we've been relatively tame over the last couple of years.

44Deezel 02-29-2012 07:48 PM

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[quote=Lotus;890401]I like how we "never hesitate to spend big in free agency," despite the fact that we've been relatively tame over the last couple of years.[/quote]

Is every team leaking info left and right like the Skins? Seems like there's a new rumor every other day.

GTripp0012 02-29-2012 08:44 PM

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[quote=Lotus;890401]I like how we "never hesitate to spend big in free agency," despite the fact that we've been relatively tame over the last couple of years.[/quote]We spent as much as any team did last year. It just didn't seem like it because we cleared out a ton of contracts first, and so we weren't spending budget that would have to come from future years.

Responsible spending still lines the pockets of free agents.

Lotus 02-29-2012 09:34 PM

Re: FA WR in Vjax and RW
 
[quote=GTripp0012;890475]We spent as much as any team did last year. It just didn't seem like it because we cleared out a ton of contracts first, and so we weren't spending budget that would have to come from future years.

Responsible spending still lines the pockets of free agents.[/quote]

We spent what we did because we signed several guys to reasonable deals. We weren't in the big money Nnamdi stakes or anything like that. The quote that I responded to implied that we were still doing Haynesworth-type deals.

And the year before we didn't do much at all in FA.

diehardskin2982 02-29-2012 09:56 PM

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Im okay with getting VJax. The best thing we can do for a new Qb is bring in a WR who will make plays.

GTripp0012 02-29-2012 10:46 PM

Re: FA WR in Vjax and RW
 
[quote=Lotus;890488]We spent what we did because we signed several guys to reasonable deals. We weren't in the big money Nnamdi stakes or anything like that. The quote that I responded to implied that we were still doing Haynesworth-type deals.

And the year before we didn't do much at all in FA.[/quote]Reasonable is relative though. When I saw the numbers on the Haynesworth deal, I thought that it was a pretty well structured contract. One year later it looked awful.

Bowen, Cofield, Chester, Brown, and Atogwe all signed pretty huge deals that gave them eight figure practical guarantees. I think that if you look at the contractual details, you can see a definite difference in the way the Redskins write contracts now versus how they did it before. But from 10,000 feet above, it looks like a franchise that loves to give out big free agent contracts giving out free agent contracts to players at the peak of their value, aka buying high.

I think that it's a lot to ask of the national writers to be detail oriented enough to realize that these big contracts are ones the Redskins can get away from a bit easier than the prior contracts which required constant restructuring. Their claims that the Shanahan/Allen duo likes to give out large free agent deals are justified by those large free agent deals.

If those contracts had led to wins in 2011, I think they'd be singing a different tune. Perhaps not, though.

Bubba305-ST21- 02-29-2012 10:53 PM

Re: FA WR in Vjax and RW
 
what do you guys think of Garcon? i dont think he is a number one receiver, that being said i would sign him but not to number 1 money which he is looking for i think. That being said who else is really going to hit the market? i think everyone worth interest is going to get tagged other than vincent jackson and possibly stevie johnson

Dirtbag59 02-29-2012 11:02 PM

Re: FA WR in Vjax and RW
 
[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;890516]what do you guys think of Garcon? i dont think he is a number one receiver, that being said i would sign him but not to number 1 money which he is looking for i think. That being said who else is really going to hit the market? i think everyone worth interest is going to get tagged other than vincent jackson and possibly stevie johnson[/quote]

I see him as the third name in this Wonderlic question.

1. Please complete the pattern. Alvin Harper, Peerless Price, ________.

Bubba305-ST21- 02-29-2012 11:12 PM

Re: FA WR in Vjax and RW
 
Brandon Iloyd (for us atleast), roy williams, and yea i could see garcon in that pattern


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