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[QUOTE=44ever;834640]My biggest ? is why no RB rotation??? I really expected to see Torain and Helu. Hightower did what I expected in the 1st half but was very one dimensional the 2nd. Why the heck have 3 great backs and only use 1? With that said, Great Game! HTTR!!![/Q

I don't see the need for much of Torain...I see him more as insurance in case Hightower goes down. I would like to see more Helu mixed in for a change of pace though.

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Giants at Redskins)
 

I think the call was correct, I also think he should have made that catch. You have to make sure your feet are in bounds in that situation keep them locker where they are and fall out of bounds, it was from a standstill so its not going to get you hurt.

I am 100% positive on yesterdays game though, the oline not perfect but way better than last year, the D was awesome in my opinion and forget about the safety play, Doughty is a back up and will always play as such. Receivers dropped a few balls but that happened around the league yesterday! Love a week 1 win against a divisional foe!

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[quote=Mattyk;834892]I thought the refs blew that call on Gaffney. <SNIP>[/quote]

On the topic of blown calls, I came up with a great drinking game: Take a chug every time Orakpo is held and there's no call. Please bear in mind that you won't make it past the first half upright.

:madani:

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[quote=polywog;834936][B]It was good call. i think he did not have both feet on the ground when he made the catch. He started picking up his foot and then put it out of bounds. [/B]Not a big fan of instant replay. I never can quite celebrate any play, without the fear that it could be called back. Not very fun and who benefits? No one.[/quote]

Yeah, its Gaffney responsibility to ensure he gets his feet down...he had time and I think he rushed it. But its moot because i believe the next play fred davis carved up the secondary with like a 25 yard gain. I expect next game Armstrong and Gaffney will clean up their play and be more effective.

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[quote=RedskinRat;834943]On the topic of blown calls, I came up with a great drinking game: Take a chug every time Orakpo is held and there's no call. Please bear in mind that you won't make it past the first half upright.

:madani:[/quote]

Haha and make sure that you dont have to drive anywhere after!

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[quote=celts32;834941]
I don't see the need for much of Torain...I see him more as insurance in case Hightower goes down. I would like to see more Helu mixed in for a change of pace though.[/quote]

That seemed to be the plan yesterday but, I think this could be a break out season for Torain if given the opportunity.

As far as Helu is concerned we need to give him at least 5-10 a game IMO and if he breaks out then more. No need to break Hightower down like we did Portis when we don't need to. I think we will see RB rotation next week.

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[quote=44ever;834946]That seemed to be the plan yesterday but, I think this could be a break out season for Torain if given the opportunity.

As far as Helu is concerned we need to give him at least 5-10 a game IMO and if he breaks out then more. No need to break Hightower down like we did Portis when we don't need to. I think we will see RB rotation next week.[/quote]


Yeah i think thats the plan too. Plus his hand was broken 4 weeks ago, a couple hits and it could rebreak and he could fumble the ball. You got to worry about a RB's pass protection too with a surgically repaired 4 week old broken hand. Might have soreness and swelling affecting his strength and mobility and might have a little nerve damage too. Keep him fresh while Hightower is playing well

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[quote=RedskinRat;834943]On the topic of blown calls, I came up with a great drinking game: Take a chug every time Orakpo is held and there's no call. Please bear in mind that you won't make it past the first half upright.

:madani:[/quote]

Yeah, its absolutely ridiculous -- they basically clothesline him all game and he never gets a call. I hope Shanny puts a tape together and sends it to the league office.

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Giants at Redskins)
 

[quote=RedskinRat;834943]On the topic of blown calls, I came up with a great drinking game: Take a chug every time Orakpo is held and there's no call. Please bear in mind that you won't make it past the first half upright.

:madani:[/quote]

Yeah he was clotheslined a few times, par for the course for him. Can't believe it doesn't get called more because it's so blatant.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;834949]Yeah, its absolutely ridiculous -- they basically clothesline him all game and he never gets a call. I hope Shanny puts a tape together and sends it to the league office.[/quote]


It happens to every single pass rusher in the league. Guy needs to adapt and change his game up instead of using that one move. Otherwise, he's just going to digress. Still haven't seen him use a swim move or a spin move to this day.

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[quote=mlmpetert;834948]Yeah i think thats the plan too. Plus his hand was broken 4 weeks ago, a couple hits and it could rebreak and he could fumble the ball. You got to worry about a RB's pass protection too with a surgically repaired 4 week old broken hand. Might have soreness and swelling affecting his strength and mobility and might have a little nerve damage too. [B]Keep him fresh while Hightower is playing well[/B][/quote]

I Agree with you there. In any case, the fact that we have 3 stud RB's who may not get all the touches they would like is a great problem to have. I would feel comfortable with any of them starting.

Im curious to see if Hightower can gain momentum as the game goes into the second half. Something just seemed off with him in the later part of the game. He admitted himself he likes to start fast so there may be a need for more balance to keep him running hard the whole game.

Looking forward to see how they mix it up next week...

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[quote=NC_Skins;834952]It happens to every single pass rusher in the league. Guy needs to adapt and change his game up instead of using that one move. Otherwise, he's just going to digress. Still haven't seen him use a swim move or a spin move to this day.[/quote]

He's gotten better with his hands.

Once you beat a guy and he hooks you around the neck, not much you can do about that.

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Giants at Redskins)
 

[quote=NC_Skins;834952]It happens to every single pass rusher in the league. Guy needs to adapt and change his game up instead of using that one move. Otherwise, he's just going to digress. Still haven't seen him use a swim move or a spin move to this day.[/quote]

Totally agree. That would make him an elite pass rusher and perennial Pro Bowler. Definitely need to add this to his game. Refs may only call the hold once or twice a game if lucky. Last year's opener, Rak was being held all game and the call only came at the end of the game when it mattered. Not always gonna get that break.

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He already is a perennial Pro Bowler, for what it's worth.

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[quote=RedskinRat;834943]On the topic of blown calls, I came up with a great drinking game: Take a chug every time Orakpo is held and there's no call. Please bear in mind that you won't make it past the first half upright.

:madani:[/quote]



Extend that to the whole D-Line and you'll be dead by half.

In the play just before Eli was called for grounding there was a hold so blatant that I was livid. Good thing the grounding came a few plays later and the Giants drive broke down.