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warriorzpath 09-04-2011 11:51 PM

Re: Final Cuts From Around the NFL
 
[quote=Mattyk;830892]How is signing Dock going to help the Cowboys on D?[/quote]

Because he spent the entire 2010 season in the redskins blocking scheme. Albeit as a backup, but he still has first hand recent knowledge of it.

12thMan 09-04-2011 11:58 PM

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[quote=warriorzpath;830923]Because he spent the entire 2010 season in the redskins blocking scheme. Albeit as a backup, but he still has first hand recent knowledge of it.[/quote]

That don't mean squat. The Cowboys have plenty of film on the Redskins, Dockery ain't changing how they game plan for the Skins.

My gut tells me that a lot of teams will be keeping an eye on our opening game to see how well Hightower performs in the new scheme.

mlmpetert 09-05-2011 12:04 AM

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I know its not going to happen..... but the Giants cut Ryan Perrilloux and placed in on their PS. If we wanted to put a third qb on the roster hed be my pick

warriorzpath 09-05-2011 12:13 AM

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[quote=12thMan;830926]That don't mean squat. The Cowboys have plenty of film on the Redskins, Dockery ain't changing how they game plan for the Skins.

My gut tells me that a lot of teams will be keeping an eye on our opening game to see how well Hightower performs in the new scheme.[/quote]

Of course all the teams on the redskins schedule are going to be watching closely. But that's ONLY YOUR opinion with Dockery. I think they are already worried this early with the redskins line that they would want all of competive advantage they can get, especially considering that they have a new defensive coach. And what better way of getting knowledge of a scheme by signing someone that has been studying and practicing it firsthand. And as a fallback reason and if this doesn't net them much, Dockery seems to be a decent backup.

MTK 09-05-2011 12:15 AM

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[quote=warriorzpath;830923]Because he spent the entire 2010 season in the redskins blocking scheme. Albeit as a backup, but he still has first hand recent knowledge of it.[/quote]

Yeah but the ZBS isn't anything new to the NFL, there's plenty of game tape for any team to study. It all comes down to execution.

warriorzpath 09-05-2011 12:22 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;830934]Yeah but the ZBS isn't anything new to the NFL, there's plenty of game tape for any team to study. It all comes down to execution.[/quote]

Still, there are always different ways to run a scheme depending on who's running it. I always say that some of the smallest details make the biggest difference. And I would think at this level, depending on how big their concern with the redskins line, the more they would want to get a competitive advantage. My assumption is that they are already worried.

MTK 09-05-2011 12:27 AM

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Dockery at this point is a better fit for what Dallas runs vs what we do. Maybe he has some inside info to offer, but I think it's pretty minimal. I think more than anything they signed him for his ability more than his knowledge.

warriorzpath 09-05-2011 12:31 AM

Re: Final Cuts From Around the NFL
 
[quote=Mattyk;830938]Dockery at this point is a better fit for what Dallas runs vs what we do. Maybe he has some inside info to offer, but I think it's pretty minimal. I think more than anything they signed him for his ability more than his knowledge.[/quote]

I don't think they were that high on his ability considering he's been available since march.

12thMan 09-05-2011 12:31 AM

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[quote=warriorzpath;830937]Still, there are always different ways to run a scheme depending on who's running it. I always say that some of the smallest details make the biggest difference. And I would think at this level, depending on how big their concern with the redskins line, the more they would want to get a competitive advantage. My assumption is that they are already worried.[/quote]

All I'm saying is I doubt the Cowboys brought in Derrick Dockery to somehow get a leg up on the Redskins scheme. And if they did, so effin what. Why not bring in Stephon Heyer or Casey Rabach or Artis Hicks? Why Dockery who wasn't even that good at zone blocking to begin with and lost his starting job?

warriorzpath 09-05-2011 12:36 AM

Re: Final Cuts From Around the NFL
 
[quote=12thMan;830941]All I'm saying is I doubt the Cowboys brought in Derrick Dockery to somehow get a leg up on the Redskins scheme. And if they did, so effin what. Why not bring in Stephon Heyer or Casey Rabach or Artis Hicks? Why Dockery who wasn't even that good at zone blocking to begin with and lost his starting job?[/quote]

Because they get the best out of this situation. A combination of the best player for their scheme and also someone with the redskins scheme knowledge.

12thMan 09-05-2011 12:40 AM

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[quote=warriorzpath;830942]Because they get the best out of this situation. A combination of the best player for their scheme and also someone with the redskins scheme knowledge.[/quote]

Hey man, I'm not going to fight you over Derrick ****ing Dockery....I mean this is Derrick Dockery we're talking about here. Derrick ****ing Dockery? It's just Derrick Dockery! I could see if we talkin' bout Russ Grimm, but Derrick Dockery? It's just Derrick Dockery! (Allen Iverson voice)

Lotus 09-05-2011 12:41 AM

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[quote=warriorzpath;830940]I don't think they were that high on his ability considering he's been available since march.[/quote]

I think they've learned that some young players did not step up as they had hoped. They couldn't know this in March but they can try to fix the problem now.

warriorzpath 09-05-2011 12:42 AM

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[quote=12thMan;830943]Hey man, I'm not going to fight you over Derrick ****ing Dockery....I mean this is Derrick Dockery we're talking about here. Derrick ****ing Dockery? It's just Derrick Dockery! I could see if we talkin' bout Russ Grimm, but Derrick Dockery? It's just Derrick Dockery! (Allen Iverson voice)[/quote]

Who's fighting? I'm just trying to SEEM smart by expressing my theory on this.

12thMan 09-05-2011 12:59 AM

Re: Final Cuts From Around the NFL
 
[quote=warriorzpath;830945]Who's fighting? I'm just trying to SEEM smart by expressing my theory on this.[/quote]

I'm just kidding man. Had a few drinks. I hope DDocks blows it up in Dallas.

SirClintonPortis 09-05-2011 01:03 AM

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Mike Shanahan's scheme has been common knowledge for at least a decade and emulated across the league. A newb to that system like Dock isn't going to help much. Dallas cut Montrae Holland and chose Dockery instead. All signs point to trouble at the LG position for them.


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