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GMScud 02-21-2009 04:41 PM

Re: Updated: Redskins Release Marcus Washington
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;528643]I actually thought Blades problem was in pass defense as he seemed to have trouble covering tight ends when he was playing namely Witten.[/quote]

Well, in his defense, there aren't too many LBs in the league who can stay with Witten in man coverage.

The Goat 02-21-2009 04:47 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;528646]I change my post b/c I noticed that SS mentioned Andre Smith (he's an OT), so the team is looking at both lines for #13. I think right now the only good player left in FA is Stacy Andrews, but he has that injury that he's rehabbing from. I don't know off the top of my head what defensive players are available in FA that could help (who we could realistically get).[/quote]

I believe Michael Boley is a true FA and could be had but there's a ? on his head. I'm getting more and more worried about the LB situation now. I suspect Rocky will move to SLB and Taylor step in at WLB and our defense will suffer badly, badly enough that we change it again midseason. Rocky can play so mediocre at times and Taylor I totally, completely expect to mail it in regardless of where he plays for us. I've changed my mind on him, thought before he'd come out w/ a chip on his shoulder but instead i think he knows our FO isn't going to admit a mistake and cut him, so his job is safe at least for another very high paying season and he'll mail it in.

SmootSmack 02-21-2009 04:52 PM

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Why do people think Jason Taylor would mail it in? Has he ever mailed it in his career?

Ruhskins 02-21-2009 04:52 PM

Re: Updated: Redskins Release Marcus Washington
 
[quote=The Goat;528650]I believe Michael Boley is a true FA and could be had but there's a ? on his head. I'm getting more and more worried about the LB situation now. I suspect Rocky will move to SLB and Taylor step in at WLB and our defense will suffer badly, badly enough that we change it again midseason. Rocky can play so mediocre at times and Taylor I totally, completely expect to mail it in regardless of where he plays for us. I've changed my mind on him, thought before he'd come out w/ a chip on his shoulder but instead i think he knows our FO isn't going to admit a mistake and cut him, so his job is safe at least for another very high paying season and he'll mail it in.[/quote]

Although I believe anything can happen, I don't know about Taylor. He seems to be someone that cares about image and reputation, and I don't know if he'd be willing to have such a crappy last year in the league. I think last season could be excused b/c of his injuries, so I would hope that he would try to have a good final year before he leaves the league.

GMScud 02-21-2009 04:54 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;528651]Why do people think Jason Taylor would mail it in? Has he ever mailed it in his career?[/quote]

Yeah, I was just thinking the same thing. He had some dominant seasons playing for some pretty bad Dolphin teams. The guy obviously has a sense of pride, and has had a great career. I'm sure he doesn't want his legacy to be that guy who went all cutsie-hollywood and danced his way out of the NFL.

The Goat 02-21-2009 05:04 PM

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SS and GM my pessimism about Taylor is just intuition I'll admit. I think we saw offenses target him last year in the running game and the theme will pick up where it left off especially if he's playing at WLB behind AC (not a great run-stopper either). Teams will just pound that side of the defense and why wouldn't Taylor start to reason with himself 1) at the end of my career do I really want to take this kind of pounding for a team that means little to me 2) one serious injury could affect the rest of my life which i have big plans for 3) i'm gonna get paid huge money from Danny and Vinny regardless. For clarity let me say i'm not pooing on Taylor... i'm saying people make decisions within the framework of opportunities and constraints they face and rationally I wouldn't be surprised if he mails it in.

... lastly you know hoping Taylor plays his guts out directly contradicts one of the most successful, savvy, and shrewd football minds in the league. I don't think i'm really on an island here...

Edit: I mean the Tuna if it ain't obvious :)

SmootSmack 02-21-2009 05:18 PM

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[quote=The Goat;528657]SS and GM my pessimism about Taylor is just intuition I'll admit. I think we saw offenses target him last year in the running game and the theme will pick up where it left off especially if he's playing at WLB behind AC (not a great run-stopper either). Teams will just pound that side of the defense and why wouldn't Taylor start to reason with himself 1) at the end of my career do I really want to take this kind of pounding for a team that means little to me 2) one serious injury could affect the rest of my life which i have big plans for 3) i'm gonna get paid huge money from Danny and Vinny regardless. For clarity let me say i'm not pooing on Taylor... i'm saying people make decisions within the framework of opportunities and constraints they face and rationally I wouldn't be surprised if he mails it in.

... lastly you know hoping Taylor plays his guts out directly contradicts one of the most successful, savvy, and shrewd football minds in the league. I don't think i'm really on an island here...

Edit: I mean the Tuna if it ain't obvious :)[/quote]

I think if JT play WLB, he wouldn't be lining up behind Carter. Taylor could have easily completely mailed it in and called himself out for the year last year if he didn't care. Or he could have retired before he was even traded.

The Goat 02-21-2009 05:28 PM

Re: Updated: Redskins Release Marcus Washington
 
[quote=SmootSmack;528659]I think if JT play WLB, he wouldn't be lining up behind Carter. Taylor could have easily completely mailed it in and called himself out for the year last year if he didn't care. Or he could have retired before he was even traded.[/quote]

Who will he play behind?

SmootSmack 02-21-2009 06:10 PM

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[quote=The Goat;528661]Who will he play behind?[/quote]

I guess it'd be Evans right now.

EternalEnigma21 02-21-2009 06:20 PM

Re: Updated: Redskins Release Marcus Washington
 
I'm sad to see him go. He's played some outstanding football, and whenever he spanked the ref after getting that sack on Romo in 2005 (now that i think about it, was it romo or bledsoe?) he earned a place in my heart.

I wish him the best.

MTK 02-21-2009 06:54 PM

Re: Updated: Redskins Release Marcus Washington
 
[quote=The Goat;528622]Can we clarify this cuz i think everyone means short. Right? Blades is the heaviest LB on the squad now he's like an f'ing bowling ball w/ legs. He's short though.[/quote]

Yeah I think the size thing is a little overblown. He's listed at 242.

53Fan 02-21-2009 06:55 PM

Re: Updated: Redskins Release Marcus Washington
 
Let me see if I'm getting this right. We cut Washington because of injuries the last couple of years and he cost around 6mil. We replace him with a DE with nowhere near the experience at LB, who was injured last year and cost us 8.5 mil. Am I getting this right so far? MW is 31. JT is 36? JT had a bad year because of injury. Marcus had a bad year because of..........injury? And this is better because.....? And by the way. I've NEVER seen Marcus mail it in either.

MTK 02-21-2009 07:03 PM

Re: Updated: Redskins Release Marcus Washington
 
I don't see anyone from the Skins saying that JT is being penciled in as a starter at LB. He could very easily end up being cut.

SmootSmack 02-21-2009 07:11 PM

Re: Updated: Redskins Release Marcus Washington
 
Yeah, let's just be clear that Taylor to LB (and weakside, not strongside) is just one of many options that's being explored. Like Matty said he could be cut, or he could stay at DE. No one knows right now.

53Fan 02-21-2009 07:20 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;528677][B]I don't see anyone from the Skins saying that JT is being penciled in as a starter at LB.[/B] He could very easily end up being cut.[/quote]

Well I hope not or I may start believing Vinny is keeping him here to save face. To start a guy who has very little experience at LB and underperformed last year due to injury, at least as far as we know that was the reason, and who also makes more money than the guy he replaced would be ridiculous. That would sound like we're just trying to find a spot for this guy to me. I have nothing against JT and I realize I'm still a little pissed about MW, but I could see no other reason for doing this. We're talking about gaining cap space and then thinking of paying a guy 8.5 mil to play a position he played a little at Miami? Hopefully it stays just a thought with the FO.


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