Re: Who was the worst acquisition of the last 10 years?
 

[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;426903]Hey, Duckett played 10 games in 06.

He attempted 38 rushes for 132yds and 2TDs.

I still think he was much more productive than Lloyd.

[I]But... If only we had given Duckett a chance!! (sarcasm)[/I][/QUOTE]

He had 2 TDs? Wow, I had no idea.

Re: Who was the worst acquisition of the last 10 years?
 

[quote=Rajmahal33;426739]Kijana Carter has got to be up there...

And i'm gonna go ahead and throw this one out at the risk of being unpopular...John Hall. I have never seen a kicker been so coddled and at the same time so injured, while also being overcompensated and contributing under expectations.[/quote]

A cheap player brought in on the ubiquitous "vet min" contract who actually had his best year as a pro as a Redskin? Huh? That and the Bruce Smith comments threw me for a loop. Come on, it's Jeff George IMO for many of the reasons stated by others (undermining Brad Johnson, destroying team chemistry, providing some of the very worst QBing in NFL history during the 2001 0-5 start). Then Lloyd because of the cost and picks, then Duckett for the picks and non-playing (I thought that move made sense at the time and bet if I went back and looked a bunch of other people did too, but the guy never got the ball).

For fun, here is some contemporary commentary on the players in question:

[U][B]TJ Duckett:[/B][/U]
Poll Question on the trade: "Love it" 40; "Like it" 42; "On the Fence" 29; "Hate it" 9.

"Sounds like a good trade. We finally have a Gerald Riggs type RB J.Gibbs loves again!"

"Hmm. I'm not sure I like this one. He won't be playing more than Portis when healthy, and I'm of the opinion that Betts is the better back. It's kinda screwing him." (so true...kudos)

"SUPERBOWL OR BUST!!! ALL YOU LAME DOUBTERS WILL NOW REALIZE WE ARE NOT SATISFIED WITH MEDIOCRE... SNYDER/ GIBBS WILL DO WHAT IT TAKES TO BRING THE LOMBARDI TO WASHINGTON, AND NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE!

As for those who think Duckett is not worth a third ATL has had the best running game overall the past to 2 seasons and with AL Saunders as our Head Coach Offense noone will be able to stop this offense when the season comes around!!!!" (whoa, love the enthusiasm)

[U][B]Brandon Lloyd:

[/B][/U]"Well he is certainly worth a 2nd rounder. The chances of finding a WR like LLoyd in the 2nd is low so he is worth it. The question is whether we have a more pressing need with that 2nd pick. I'd say no. We only need to replace Arrington on defense but we absolutly need a 2nd WR. If the package isn't much more than a 2nd then I am all for it as long as someon can atest that Lloyd isn't going to be an issue in terms of attitude."

"Lloyd was tied for 15th in the NFC in targets last season with 109
Santana was 9th with 134

Santana caught 84 of those passes.
Lloyd caught 48. He finished sixth in the NFC in "passes not caught"." (excellent stat, how come that didn't turn up red flags at the Park?)

"Since Gibbs came back the Skins have been almost dead-on with their free agent/trade acquisitons. Griffin, Springs, Washington, Portis, Brunell, Rabach, Moss, just to name the major ones.

Sit back and relax, we're in good hands."

[U][B]Adam Archuleta:

[/B][/U]"This is one that Williams really wanted--props to Gibbs to spread the love to the D as well. I take it Arch is a different sort from Clarke--more the "big hitter" that Bowen was supposed to be. If Mr. Williams wants him, that's good enough for me, though I always liked Clarkes attitude. He seems like a genuine nice guy." (Ryan Clark, just one of the 'True Redskins' to be unceremoniously shown the door).

"He's 28 and ready for prime time"

" I think arch is overpaid :/ and the money would be used better elsewhere.

if he has 10 sacks this year i reserve my right to waffle and/or flip-flop." (no need for that)

Unfortunately the Warpath is too young to remember the starry eyed days when Deion, George, and Smith (let alone Stubby) were brought on board.

Re: Who was the worst acquisition of the last 10 years?
 

Gotta be Lloyd. He represents the perfect storm of evaluation/performance blunders:
--Wasted two draft picks
--Tore up his salary and paid him up front like he was an all pro
--Apparently was not the greatest in the locker room
--Did not perform on the field
--Got injured in practice to end his career here
--Is a deadcap hit of 5.5mil in 2009

Re: Who was the worst acquisition of the last 10 years?
 

Well, my first pick would be Heath Shuler, but he was slightly beyond 10 years ago.

Dana Stubblefield was my pick, and the reasoning behind it is the massive amount we paid for him with the massive amount of hype he had.
I'd say Arch but we were able to get out from under that contract, and I feel it was more a problem of our system than it was that he sucked.
Brandon Lloyd get's a very honorable mention...it was really hard to choose between these three.

Re: Who was the worst acquisition of the last 10 years?
 

[quote=DynamiteRave;426865]What about Jaime Asher? I wouldn't say he was the WORST but then again I was only like 11-14 when he played for us and I wasn't really paying too much attention to football in detail back then.

Anyone older know how he was as a player? And Whatever happened to that dude? I checked Wikipedia and they barely have a stub on him. Looks like he dropped off the face of the Earth.[/quote]

Asher wasn't that bad. He was decent on some middling Norv Turner teams and actually was a Pro Bowl alternate in 96 I think.

And if you're ever in Indianapolis and in need of some good financial guidance...try this link:

[URL]http://www.nmfn.com/jamieasher[/URL]

Re: Who was the worst acquisition of the last 10 years?
 

Bruce Smith recorded double digit sacks in a Washington uniform and was serviceable for several years. He was by no means a great pickup, but he wasn't awful either.

Brandon Lloyd is the winner for the reasons Schneed discussed.

Re: Who was the worst acquisition of the last 10 years?
 

[quote=NYCSkin;426937]Asher wasn't that bad. He was decent on some middling Norv Turner teams and actually was a Pro Bowl alternate in 96 I think.

And if you're ever in Indianapolis and in need of some good financial guidance...try this link:

[URL]http://www.nmfn.com/jamieasher[/URL][/quote]

Plus he was a 5th round pick, not a high-priced pick up. Certainly a blast from the past, but very very very far from the worst pick-up in history.

On a side note, how come all ex-athletes end up selling insurance?

Re: Who was the worst acquisition of the last 10 years?
 

jeffie got a coach fired, displaced a good QB, and forced marty into waiver wire tony banks (and one audible).

Re: Who was the worst acquisition of the last 10 years?
 

Arch was signed to the most money as a saftey in the league coming here and he ruined our secondary..the picks for duckett were BS as he ddint even dress games when coming here..but the faith we put in arch was a joke. stubblefield had potential, even brandon lloyd did.. but arch is jason sehorn 2.0

Re: Who was the worst acquisition of the last 10 years?
 

Brandon Llyod hands down. Cost of draft picks, a ton of cap space, locker room malcontent - just bad from every angle. At least the other players did not have all these factors against them. Also, most of these other players that everyone is talking about at least had descent stats to back up their price tag before they were acquired - Llyod was never good to begin with in the NFL and carried the all too famous "has great potential" tag with him. If you don't believe me go to NFL.com or any NFL stat website and check out his stats - he is a bum and never deserved to be traded for and paid like he was. When you look at acquiring a player one of the things you have to consider is production - which one point I want to add on - picks like Heath Shuler shouldn't be considered the worst deals because teams could only look at his college stats and you can't blame the skins for taking him because he was considered one of the top qb's in the draft that year and the SKins needed a franchise qb and Shule at Tennessee was pretty darn good.

Re: Who was the worst acquisition of the last 10 years?
 

If I remember correctly didn't we give a 1st - 2nd and 3rd round draft pick to the viking for Brad Johnson? Does anyone recall?

Re: Who was the worst acquisition of the last 10 years?
 

[quote=Gmanc711;426881]I say Duckett purley because we gave up a 3rd round pick for a guy we pretty much knew wouldnt be anymore than a 3rd down back......but he did at least make some plays for us...

I mean...they're all bad lol[/quote]

You have to remember the circumstances around it. The Skins were a playoff team the year before with high aspirations. Portis gets hurt and we were left with Betts and Cartwright who were both unproven and fumble risks at the time. Duckett was the best available insurance policy. The fact that he didn't play just meant that we didn't need the insurance payout.

Re: Who was the worst acquisition of the last 10 years?
 

I went with other because I can't decide between George and Lloyd. Lloyd definitely contributed less on the field but he's at a position where other players can pick up the slack. During the George years I really felt like we had no playoff chance. He was a fan-killer as well as a team-killer.

Re: Who was the worst acquisition of the last 10 years?
 

[quote=Manusky91;427005]You have to remember the circumstances around it. The Skins were a playoff team the year before with high aspirations. Portis gets hurt and we were left with Betts and Cartwright who were both unproven and fumble risks at the time. Duckett was the best available insurance policy. The fact that he didn't play just meant that we didn't need the insurance payout.[/quote]

Duckett was a pricey insurance policy that we didn't end up having to cash in. Not the best move in hindsight, but I can at least understand the rationale behind the move. Tough to see how that move would top some of these other ones.

Re: Who was the worst acquisition of the last 10 years?
 

[quote=redskin37;427004]If I remember correctly didn't we give a 1st - 2nd and 3rd round draft pick to the viking for Brad Johnson? Does anyone recall?[/quote]

Yes that was the deal