Re: Spagnuolo is looking good (Defense)
 

FYI, I don't think spags is the answer. The main reason they stopped the patriots is because they have 4 guys on their Defensive line that dominated their counter parts.
They had a few nice blitzes but I would still rather have Gwilliams anyday of the week and twice on sunday!

Re: Spagnuolo is looking good (Defense)
 

[QUOTE=Coff;417239]A lot of it is thinking with the heart and not with the mind, which isn't altogether that bad (especially since we are completely unable to affect the outcome). I support Spags over the other guys precisely [I]because [/I]he has no experience. I want a new guy who is unproven, from whom we don't know what to expect. It's more exciting because the possibility remains, however remote, that he may become one of the greatest coaches in the history of the game. Is this logical? Not really, but isn't it more fun to root for a draft pick than a veteran free agent signee? I think hiring a coach like Spags (or Meeks) is the equivalent to drafting a player, while hiring Mooch or Fassell is like getting a veteran free agent. I don't want someone else's sloppy seconds, and I doubt I'm the only one out there who feels this way. That explains a lot of the Fassel hate; it's not that we feel he's a bad coach (well, many people do I guess), but that we know two things about him: 1) He does not have the potential to be one of the greatest ever, and 2) He was fired by the Giants. Why would we want that guy when we can have Steve Spagnuolo, a guy whose potential is, for all we currently know, limitless?[/QUOTE]

[B]Plus he lost to the Ravens in the SB with Trent Dilfer at the helm 34-7.[/B]

Re: Spagnuolo is looking good (Defense)
 

[QUOTE=Beemnseven;417249]I can also see it now -- hire either an unknown, unproven HC or a less than enthusing retread, watch either of them go through a tough first year, and let that be the excuse you need to hire the guy you REALLY want in 2009 -- Bill Cowher.[/QUOTE]

People are making a lot of assumptions that Cowher would want the Redskins job.. If the Panthers job is open next year, which it probably will be outside of a NFC Championship Game run, that's his first choice. Richardson can match Snyder $$ for $$ for a salary and it's closer to home.

Also, Cowher is a Scottenheimer disciple and a close personal friend of his. After seeing what Marty went thru while he was here what makes you think he'll be in a rush to be here.

Not to mention with Cerrato's new title, Cowher is only going somewhere with total control so Snyder would have to demote/fire Vinny. Do you see that happening?

Re: Spagnuolo is looking good (Defense)
 

[quote=T.O.Killa;416808]I think I want Spag[/quote]
Ditto. He's intense.

Re: Spagnuolo is looking good (Defense)
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;417258][B]Plus he lost to the Ravens in the SB with Trent Dilfer at the helm 34-7.[/B][/quote]

Fassel isn't to blame for that loss. There was nothing any coach could've done. Balt. just had a dominating defense that year.

Re: Welcome Home Spags!!!
 

[quote=Beemnseven;417139]You do realize that Spags would no longer have the luxury of having ends like Strahan, Umenyora, Tuck and Kiwanuka, right?

How do you think he will fare with the likes of Philip Daniels, Andre Carter, Demetric Evans and Chris Wilson?[/quote]

The Redskins would have to address that regardless of whether Fassel or Spags is running the joint. We need to upgrade our DL.

Re: Spagnuolo is looking good (Defense)
 

Don't you think anyone coming in would want their own coaching staff?

Re: Spagnuolo is looking good (Defense)
 

Dude on PTI said that Spags should be the HC by wednesday, and then he mentioned Cowher... I thought Cowher was ruled out and that "Fassel is expected to be hired"

Does he know something we dont know? I am so sick of waiting.

Re: Spagnuolo is looking good (Defense)
 

[quote=wolfeskins;416834]that's what i'm saying. screw spags, i want to trade the skins front 4 for the giants front 4.[/quote]


Lol.......................ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no.

Re: Spagnuolo is looking good (Defense)
 

[quote=Stuck in TX;417507]Dude on PTI said that Spags should be the HC by wednesday, and then he mentioned Cowher... I thought Cowher was ruled out and that "Fassel is expected to be hired"

Does he know something we dont know? I am so sick of waiting.[/quote]


PTI= Kornhieser was joking .....he does'nt know .Why would spags come here after you hired a DC already,would'nt he want to put in his own system?

Re: Spagnuolo is looking good (Defense)
 

[QUOTE=Giantone;417505]Don't you think anyone coming in would want their own coaching staff?[/QUOTE]


One would think under normal circumstances that would be the case, however the situation in question is not normal. The staff here is already in place except for the HC, and whoever that ultimately becomes has to be on board with that.

Spagnuolo just did a brief interview on NBC 4 and he mentioned something I found significant, and sometrhing that has been quoted here. He said it was only one game, and it was more about those guys in the locker room than it was about him. I thought that to be a good and proper analysis.

Re: Spagnuolo is looking good (Defense)
 

[QUOTE=Giantone;417512]PTI= Kornhieser was joking .....he does'nt know .Why would spags come here after you hired a DC already,would'nt he want to put in his own system?[/QUOTE]

Exactly. it'll be fassel or mooch.

Re: Spagnuolo is looking good (Defense)
 

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;417253]Though admittedly it's a long shot primarily because of his age, I[B] don't see why he doesn't have the potential to be one of the greatest ever.[/B] I mean he's accomplished far more than Belichick did when he and the Brown parted ways.[/QUOTE]


The guy you were responding to did not say that Spagnuolo "doesn't have the potential to be the greatest ever." In fact, he was saying that the sheer chance that Spanguolo could be such a coach made him a more exciting choice for HC than a guy who has been fired from his last two jobs (the second being a coordinator job). He then qualified his comment about Spagnuolo's potential by saying that his thoughts might be "illogical," a qualification I'm guessing he thought necessary lest he get slammed by you and others for suggesting that Spanguolo had such potential.

Re: Spagnuolo is looking good (Defense)
 

[QUOTE=BringBackJoeT;417536]The guy you were responding to did not say that Spagnuolo "doesn't have the potential to be the greatest ever." In fact, he was saying that the sheer chance that Spanguolo could be such a coach made him a more exciting choice for HC than a guy who has been fired from his last two jobs (the second being a coordinator job). He then qualified his comment about Spagnuolo's potential by saying that his thoughts might be "illogical," a qualification I'm guessing he thought necessary lest he get slammed by you and others for suggesting that Spanguolo had such potential.[/QUOTE]

I think you completely misread my post

Re: Spagnuolo is looking good (Defense)
 

[QUOTE=Giantone;417512]PTI= Kornhieser was joking .....he does'nt know .[/QUOTE]



I am begining to wonder if even VC or DS knows... if it is fassel why havnt they announced it yet? I honestly thought I would wake up to news of some kind. Something smells funny and if after waiting all this time its Fassel, I will be pretty upset.