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[quote=MTK;1266740]So nice of Rudy to be in the giving spirit, spreading that sweet Rona all around like it's already Christmas

[URL="https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/528990-arizona-legislature-shuts-down-after-giuliani-tests-positive"]Arizona legislature shuts down after Giuliani tests positive for coronavirus[/URL][/quote]

Can Rona be spread by farts? cause if so Rudy been crop dusting covid laced farts publically which is foul on so many levels

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[quote=Chico23231;1266745]Can Rona be spread by farts? cause if so Rudy been crop dusting covid laced farts publically which is foul on so many levels[/quote]

:laughing-

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1266741]By all accounts the UK is rushing through without vetting the research. Pfizer is not just an AMERICAN MADE vaccine but also a joint effort with Germany. I do wish FDA would move faster like the European model but this is what you get with the small government, lack of oversight approach we embrace in the U.S. Other developed country democracies have figured out how to govern their citizens effectively maybe one day we will too.[/quote]

Yeah, i do agree with everything you said. But i'm not holding my breath that the FDA approves either of these shots this month. Hell we may not even get a vaccine at all. At the current case load around 250K cases a day, you have to figure at least that many people are getting sick every day and not getting officially diagnosed. So in all actuality the USA is probably seeing a true number of 400 - 500K a day. At that speed, we are doing over 12 million cases a month. At that level of spread, the USA will reach heard immunity in around a year. So, one way or the other, the pandemic is winding down because we will probably see the daily infection rate drop within 6 months as we get closer and closer to building herd immunity.

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Why would we not get a vaccine at all? C'mon brah that makes zero sense

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[quote=MTK;1266749]Why would we not get a vaccine at all? C'mon brah that makes zero sense[/quote]

My apologies, i don't mean to imply we won't get one ever, i just mean that the FDA may not approve Pfizer or Moderna. So we may not get an approved vaccine until sometime mid - late 2021 as more companies file for FDA approval.

I'm not sure how the FDA deals with public pressure, but i imagine at some point they are going to face heavy criticism especially if most of the world begins rolling out vaccines and we don't. I really think vaccines are the only way out of this.

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Likely that answers are coming this week

[URL="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-05/u-s-vaccines-may-start-friday-amid-covid-s-worst-virus-update"]On the Edge of a Key Covid Decision: Five Questions Answered[/URL]

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1266750]My apologies, i don't mean to imply we won't get one ever, i just mean that the FDA may not approve Pfizer or Moderna. So we may not get an approved vaccine until sometime mid - late 2021 as more companies file for FDA approval.

I'm not sure how the FDA deals with public pressure, but i imagine at some point they are going to face heavy criticism especially if most of the world begins rolling out vaccines and we don't. I really think vaccines are the only way out of this.[/quote]

IMO, Pfizer will be approved by the end of the week. Moderna will be the week after. Two weeks TOPS. Vaccines will be distributed to at risk population within the next 2-3 weeks.

I do not agree with the logic that a country approving something before us implies they are doing a better job. There is no grand conspiracy here. There are necessary rigors to ensure vaccine efficacy and safety that are in place for a reason (see RSV Vaccine in the 60's).

Especially given the disinformation climate we live in, it's imperitive that the job is done correctly. I would be curious what concrete evidence exists out there that anything else is going on. Dunning-Kruger at it's finest.

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[quote=Chico23231;1266745]Can Rona be spread by farts? cause if so Rudy been crop dusting covid laced farts publically which is foul on so many levels[/quote]

This is a legit question that I would like an answer to :lol:

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[quote=RobH4413;1266754]IMO, Pfizer will be approved by the end of the week. Moderna will be the week after. Two weeks TOPS. Vaccines will be distributed to at risk population within the next 2-3 weeks.

I do not agree with the logic that a country approving something before us implies they are doing a better job. There is no grand conspiracy here. There are necessary rigors to ensure vaccine efficacy and safety that are in place for a reason (see RSV Vaccine in the 60's).

[B]Especially given the disinformation climate we live in, it's imperitive that the job is done correctly. [/B]I would be curious what concrete evidence exists out there that anything else is going on. Dunning-Kruger at it's finest.[/quote]

This. Sad to say it might take a little longer for a vaccine to get approved because they absolutely have to make sure everything is in proper order now that conspiracy theories are increasingly legitimized.

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[quote=mooby;1266760]This is a legit question that I would like an answer to :lol:[/quote]

If you actually want to put the effort to go down this rabbit hole... This is actually discussed here. :-)

[url]https://youtu.be/yJPauidZfRw?t=2958[/url]

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[quote=RobH4413;1266765]If you actually want to put the effort to go down this rabbit hole... This is actually discussed here. :-)

[url]https://youtu.be/yJPauidZfRw?t=2958[/url][/quote]

I listened long enough to get the gist, thanks. Odds are low, but not impossible. Could Guliani's pants be the only protection between a room full of lawmakers getting COVID through a Guliani fart? It's a theory.

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[quote=mooby;1266788]I listened long enough to get the gist, thanks. Odds are low, but not impossible. Could Guliani's pants be the only protection between a room full of lawmakers getting COVID through a Guliani fart? It's a theory.[/quote]

I have a theory that it is being spread by flushing toilets.

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[quote=MTK;1266749]Why would we not get a vaccine at all? C'mon brah that makes zero sense[/quote]

I knew, without even looking at previous posts, who brah referred to.

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Maybe it was that Rudy Rona fart

[URL="https://www.axios.com/jenna-ellis-trump-lawyer-covid-2bab2624-0b25-4f47-a532-079fd2c392da.html"]West Wing fears COVID spread after Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis attends WH party[/URL]

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At 15,067,819, the U.S. leads the world with the most cases of COVID-19. It also leads the world in the most coronavirus fatalities with some 285,190 lives lost, per estimates from Johns Hopkins University.

“The epidemic in the U.S. is punishing. It’s widespread,” Dr. Michael Ryan, the World Health Organization's emergencies chief, said during a Monday news conference. “It’s quite frankly, shocking, to see one to two persons a minute die in the U.S. — a country with a wonderful, strong health system (and) amazing technological capacities."

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/health/arizona-coronavirus-record-more-than-12000-cases-reported-day[/url]

I love America ... but I wish things like wearing a mask and social distancing didnt become tribal warfare.