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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;886044]Also... MARK SCHLARETH came on ESPN yesterday and stated that this "4th surgery" was more of a procedure than an actuall surgery.

Much different in notation. A knee getting drained is a procedure for example, and a repair to a broken bone is a surgery.

This story is so overblown.[/quote]

Word. I had a "procedure" in my bathroom last week...popped a nasty pimple on my shoulder...I better hang up my workouts at the gym!!

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[QUOTE=Dirtbag59;886119]Also I just want to add, does anyone think the Giants regret giving up two first and a third for Eli Manning? I mean for Gods sake the Chargers got 3 Pro Bowlers in that trade yet the Giants now have 2 Super Bowls.[/QUOTE]

No, no, and no.

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[QUOTE=12thMan;886106]Todd McShay thinks RG3 will either be a Redskin or a Cleveland Brown. Says he'd be surprised if he fell below the number 2 spot.[/QUOTE]

I think RGIII will be a Redskin too. Whether it be pick 2,3,4 or 6.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;886119]Also I just want to add, does anyone think the Giants regret giving up two first and a third for Eli Manning? I mean for Gods sake the Chargers got 3 Pro Bowlers in that trade yet the Giants now have 2 Super Bowls.[/quote]Well, Ernie Accorsi doesn't regret it at all, but he's retired so what choice does he have?

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[quote=Dirtbag59;886119]Also I just want to add, does anyone think the Giants regret giving up two first and a third for Eli Manning? I mean for Gods sake the Chargers got 3 Pro Bowlers in that trade yet the Giants now have 2 Super Bowls.[/quote]


That's hindsight. Had Eli flopped, would they have regretted it? Sure as hell would. However, that team had a bunch talent on it when Eli got drafted. They were only 2 years removed from a Super Bowl appearance and vastly underperformed that prior year. We aren't that team with a good talented base to be giving up that many picks for a gamble. Not now. In the future, sure.

Do the Falcons regret giving up those picks for Vick?

Do the Chargers regret giving up those picks for Leaf?

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;886083]Do you think a 69 Ford Mustang Mach 1 429 Cobra Jet would work? I got one of those!! :)[/quote]

I want to see! I have a lowly 1970 Mustang Fastback 302... :(

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Fact is Eli didn't flop, they won two Super Bowls, so they don't regret it. There comes a time when you gotta take the risk. If you never take the risk, your reward will never be as high as you want. Sure the higher the risk the higher the potential failure, but that's better than hovering in mediocrities your whole life.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;886145]Fact is Eli didn't flop, they won two Super Bowls, so they don't regret it. There comes a time when you gotta take the risk. If you never take the risk, your reward will never be as high as you want. Sure the higher the risk the higher the potential failure, but that's better than hovering in mediocrities your whole life.[/quote]


Now is not the time. We are in the middle of a rebuild. Sure you take risks, but you have to know when to take them.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;886145]Fact is Eli didn't flop, they won two Super Bowls, so they don't regret it. There comes a time when you gotta take the risk. If you never take the risk, your reward will never be as high as you want. Sure the higher the risk the higher the potential failure, but that's better than hovering in mediocrities your whole life.[/quote]To be clear, I doubt Beathard regrets trading up for Ryan Leaf (he took a risk after all), but that doesn't mean I would recommend he do it again.

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[quote=NC_Skins;886150]Now is not the time. We are in the middle of a rebuild. Sure you take risks, but you have to know when to take them.[/quote]

This is the time though. If last year, heck the last decade, is any indication it's that this team will go no where without a QB.

I can understand passing on Blaine Gabbert but in our division we need a QB to compete with the likes of Romo, Manning, and Vick. Griffin is capable of not only playing to their level but surpassing them.

Plus keep in mind QB's take time to develop. So say we get everything in place. Line, defense, receivers, running back. Then after all that we draft a QB. By the time that QB fully develops all those supporting players will be either near the end of their prime or past it. Pretty much every supporting position has a much quicker turnaround time then any rookie QB.

It is exponentially easier to find 2 Ryan Kerrigan's and a Leonard Hankerson then it is to find a franchise QB.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;886156]This is the time though. If last year, heck the last decade, is any indication it's that this team will go no where without a QB.

I can understand passing on Blaine Gabbert but in our division we need a QB to compete with the likes of Romo, Manning, and Vick. Griffin is capable of not only playing to their level but surpassing them.

Plus keep in mind QB's take time to develop. So say we get everything in place. Line, defense, receivers, running back. Then after all that we draft a QB. By the time that QB fully develops all those supporting players will be either near the end of their prime or past it. Pretty much every supporting position has a much quicker turnaround time then any rookie QB.

[B]It is exponentially easier to find 2 Ryan Kerrigan's and a Leonard Hankerson then it is to find a franchise QB.[/B][/quote]

Money shot. My thoughts exactly...

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[quote=Dirtbag59;886156]It is exponentially easier to find 2 Ryan Kerrigan's and a Leonard Hankerson then it is to find a franchise QB.[/quote]Is it though? There are about 10-ish team that have that stability at quarterback and only one really (Pittsburgh) that drafts and develops a pass rusher every year and routinely finds pro bowl receivers in the third round. Maybe the sampling is inconsistent, but it would seem that it's much easier to find a top QB with a first round pick than it is to consistently hit on players at premium positions elsewhere.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;886156]This is the time though. If last year, heck the last decade, is any indication it's that this team will go no where without a QB.

I can understand passing on Blaine Gabbert but in our division we need a QB to compete with the likes of Romo, Manning, and Vick. Griffin is capable of not only playing to their level but surpassing them. .[/quote]


So let's just abandon that long term plan that could set us up for future just to blow it on a mere chance?...lol


I'm just glad you guys don't handle my finances. When you have everything set, you can take those types of gambles. When you are broke and scraping for money, you don't take those types of gambles. We are broke and scraping guys. This isn't a 1 player away from greatness team. This is a "still needing a lot of talent and depth" to be a contender on a regular basis.

If we had a little more depth and talent, I would have no problem going for that risk. Doing so now could set us back big time.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;886145]Fact is Eli didn't flop, they won two Super Bowls, so they don't regret it. There comes a time when you gotta take the risk. If you never take the risk, your reward will never be as high as you want. Sure the higher the risk the higher the potential failure, but that's better than hovering in mediocrities your whole life.[/quote]

They would have won 4 with Rivers and those picks they traded to San Diego;)

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[quote=NC_Skins;886163]We are broke and scraping guys.[/quote]Welcome to the dark side.