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[quote=skinsfaninok;1357634]Just finished JD tape. I’m all in. Dynamic athlete, duel threat with a very accurate arm. Arm strength is good enough, it’s not Drake maye level but it’s Caleb level.


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I've just about convinced my self that J Daniels should be our pick at #2. I'm no QB expert but I just don't see any negatives that would overcome the many positives he has. The other two possibles have more things about them that tend to erode my confidence in them. Perhaps I'll comment more on their plusses and minuses in a future post. Hopefully, you can stand to wait for my post without peeing your pants in anticipation.

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JD reminds me too much of RG3 as far as style of play. If it were up to me, I would take either Williams or Maye. B Johnson (if he is our next coach) will probably want more of a pocket passer but I will support whatever the powers at be choose.

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Worrying about Daniels being like RG3 is the same type thing Houston avoided by taking Stroud and not worrying about the OSU QB success in the past. I don't think they're that similar. Don't even think their running styles are that similar.

Really hoping we end up with him.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1357782]Worrying about Daniels being like RG3 is the same type thing Houston avoided by taking Stroud and not worrying about the OSU QB success in the past. I don't think they're that similar. Don't even think their running styles are that similar.

Really hoping we end up with him.[/quote]

The RG 3 comparison is very fair.
Both slightly built Uber athletic QBs that win the Heisman trophy.

I’m a die hard LSU fan and have watched every game. I invite you all to watch both FSU vs LSU games he played. They are the best referral of Daniels game.
You can see how raw, and poor QB skills he has, and how much of a run first athlete he is in the first FSU game. You can see how much he matures over the first year, and becomes a better QB in the second game.

He lost both games. Not only that, he was our played at the position by FSU.

He is a 1 read and tuck it QB, just like RG3. Cannot diagnose presnap read and go through the route tree progressions. He has his hot read and tucks it 9/10 plays.

I understand the excitement, but must present the caveat emptor.

HTTR

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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?2022[/url]
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2023https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifR3Qqjk66M&t=27s&pp=ygUaSmF5ZGVuIGRhbmllbHMgdnMgZnN1IDIwMjM%3D

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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jky2-pfBE4M&pp=QAFIAQ%3D%3D[/url]

Auburn game 2023

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[quote=Redskin Jim;1357783]The RG 3 comparison is very fair.
Both slightly built Uber athletic QBs that win the Heisman trophy.

I’m a die hard LSU fan and have watched every game. I invite you all to watch both FSU vs LSU games he played. They are the best referral of Daniels game.
You can see how raw, and poor QB skills he has, and how much of a run first athlete he is in the first FSU game. You can see how much he matures over the first year, and becomes a better QB in the second game.

He lost both games. Not only that, he was our played at the position by FSU.

He is a 1 read and tuck it QB, just like RG3. Cannot diagnose presnap read and go through the route tree progressions. He has his hot read and tucks it 9/10 plays.

I understand the excitement, but must present the caveat emptor.

HTTR[/quote]

I don't think you can sell a LSU (and Commanders) fan on Daniels either way. You've definitely watched way more his work than me, but I'm still on the train.

Also, FSU was way better than LSU, across the board. And Jordan Travis was a bad-ass college QB.

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Vs Alabama
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SybRHCDx_ac[/url]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1357787]I don't think you can sell a LSU (and Commanders) fan on Daniels either way. You've definitely watched way more his work than me, but I'm still on the train.

Also, FSU was way better than LSU, across the board. And Jordan Travis was a bad-ass college QB.[/quote]

No sales here, my friend. Born in Bethesda Naval hospital, and raised in Henson, VA. I’ve live in NO and rooted for LSU since Katrina. Redskins till I die.

Only presenting the facts. I wanted Daniels to be the man, he is not.

Great kid, athlete, person. Far from an elite NFL QB.
It would be wise to trade out of the #2 for a Kings ransom

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[quote=Redskin Jim;1357789]It would be wise to trade out of the #2 for a Kings ransom[/quote]

Thank you! I don't feel any of the QBs are worthy of a top 2 pick, and if we have any takers (which I have a keen idea there will be buyers) wanting our #2 pick then we should swap and load up on picks.

I don't wanna slide down too far in the first round, so hopefully it's a team in top 7.

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[quote=Redskin Jim;1357789]No sales here, my friend. Born in Bethesda Naval hospital, and raised in Henson, VA. I’ve live in NO and rooted for LSU since Katrina. Redskins till I die.

Only presenting the facts. I wanted Daniels to be the man, he is not.

Great kid, athlete, person. Far from an elite NFL QB.
It would be wise to trade out of the #2 for a Kings ransom[/quote]You make an interesting argument for not drafting Daniels. Who do you like at qb then at the 2 selection or a trade down? Daniels is bigtime for production in the SEC, but I do worry about the injury factor and if he can consistently hit NFL passes in tight windows with his arm strength. Not gonna lie. Maye's physical attributes appeal to me. Kid is supposed to have a cannon, is big, and can run. This draft and offseason is going to be fun. Could be seismic for this franchise.

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[quote=Redskin Jim;1357789]No sales here, my friend. Born in Bethesda Naval hospital, and raised in Henson, VA. I’ve live in NO and rooted for LSU since Katrina. Redskins till I die.

Only presenting the facts. I wanted Daniels to be the man, he is not.

Great kid, athlete, person. Far from an elite NFL QB.
It would be wise to trade out of the #2 for a Kings ransom[/quote]

100%

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[quote=Redskin Jim;1357783]The RG 3 comparison is very fair.
Both slightly built Uber athletic QBs that win the Heisman trophy.

I’m a die hard LSU fan and have watched every game. I invite you all to watch both FSU vs LSU games he played. They are the best referral of Daniels game.
You can see how raw, and poor QB skills he has, and how much of a run first athlete he is in the first FSU game. You can see how much he matures over the first year, and becomes a better QB in the second game.

He lost both games. Not only that, he was our played at the position by FSU.

He is a 1 read and tuck it QB, just like RG3. Cannot diagnose presnap read and go through the route tree progressions. He has his hot read and tucks it 9/10 plays.

I understand the excitement, but must present the caveat emptor.

HTTR[/quote]
Dude threw 40TDs and has poor QB skills?
You are oversimplifying the comparison because they both run.
You said it yourself, he matures over the year and becomes a better QB later in the year.
He has all the tools and is the only QB out of the top 3 that actually played his best last year.

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[quote=Redskin Jim;1357786][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jky2-pfBE4M&pp=QAFIAQ%3D%3D[/url]

Auburn game 2023[/quote]

If you meant this tape to illustrate your negative points about JD it doesn't. For example, numerous plays on this tape clearly show him going through his progressions in the pocket. Also, going into his final season, he became laser focused on improving some of the deficiencies in his game and his body in an effort to get ready for the pro game. His HC said that JD routinely beat him into the training facility every morning at 5:00 A.M. and he made great strides. This young man is very talented, smart, coachable, and dedicated to work hard to get better. He has a big upside to his game.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1357798]If you meant this tape to illustrate your negative points about JD it doesn't. For example, numerous plays on this tape clearly show him going through his progressions in the pocket. Also, going into his final season, he became laser focused on improving some of the deficiencies in his game and his body in an effort to get ready for the pro game. His HC said that JD routinely beat him into the training facility every morning at 5:00 A.M. and he made great strides. This young man is very talented, smart, coachable, and dedicated to work hard to get better. He has a big upside to his game.[/quote]

I have no questions about his work ethic, character, or elite athletic ability.
I’m telling you, as someone who has watched every game he played at LSU, You are getting RG3.
As long as you go into it with eyes wide open, not butterflies in your stomach and head in the clouds, then you have made an informed decision. But, like RG3 I don’t believe he will become an elite passer. He is a RPO quarterback who’s first instinct it his legs.