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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1347274]Howell is from Charlotte, NC. I was giving u shit back[/QUOTE]


I know he is. Lol.
To be exact Waynesville. Just outside Asheville. Which is an amazing little city.
Asheville not Waynesville. Waynesville is a small town but surrounded by some absolutely beautiful country.

Just for the record wasn’t really giving you shit, it just seems like a lot of people you are high on are west coasters. Makes sense you live there and hear about them more than we do. Anyway was just a dumb joke that somehow spawned a conversation about Waynesville NC.

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Me coming home from the grocery store finding SF and Punch:

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1347276]Me coming home from the grocery store finding SF and Punch:

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LOL

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1347237]My bad. I guess the flip side of that is if you don't trust them to make one play how do you trust them to make a 75 yard drive? Regardless I am not upset by the decision. I would have liked the gamble but think going to OT is also fair. [B] I've just been waiting to tell you to go eat some brillat-savarin when we disagree on something. So took my shot[/B].[/quote]

Well, in that even a FG would have done the trick. And in that situation, yes I'd rather have have 4 chances to make 10 yards several times than gamble everything on one play after an exciting but rocky drive where it's not like they were imposing their will on every play.

And, Matty, I have a hard time getting how Ron's "offense was gassed" excuse is weak ? How would have losing the game on a play he knew his players didn't have a lot of chance to convert been smart ?

"-Coach that 2 pt conv looked awful, with 3 Dlinemen in the backfield in the blink of a eye, and Howell fumbling the ball back 20 yards, hindsight is 20/20 but could you walk us through the decision to go for 2 in that situation ?
-Well, I knew they were exhausted after that drive, but I'm a tough as nail coach and I never take into account anything my players say or feel, so I went for 2 cuz I wanted to!"

Evaluating if your players are in a position to make the play should indeed be part of the decision process IMO.

(Love the bolded part :food-smil )

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[quote=Giantone;1347203]I have to say that was a hell of a game. The last drive in regular time was very impressive!

Let me ask, how many think you should have gone for two and ended it then, one way or another?[/quote]

One of my friends, who was watching the game with me, immediately said, "Go for two" right after Dotson's TD. I quickly replied, "Hell no!" Then I thought about it for a few seconds and agreed with my friend. We had some momentum and I had no issues going for the win in regulation.

With that said, I had no problem with Rivera going for the tie and take the game into OT. If it was me, I would've gone for the two-point conversion and the win in regulation.

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1347279]Well, in that even a FG would have done the trick. And in that situation, yes I'd rather have have 4 chances to make 10 yards several times than gamble everything on one play after an exciting but rocky drive where it's not like they were imposing their will on every play.

And, Matty, I have a hard time getting how Ron's "offense was gassed" excuse is weak ? How would have losing the game on a play he knew his players didn't have a lot of chance to convert been smart ?

"-Coach that 2 pt conv looked awful, with 3 Dlinemen in the backfield in the blink of a eye, and Howell fumbling the ball back 20 yards, hindsight is 20/20 but could you walk us through the decision to go for 2 in that situation ?
-Well, I knew they were exhausted after that drive, but I'm a tough as nail coach and I never take into account anything my players say or feel, so I went for 2 cuz I wanted to!"

Evaluating if your players are in a position to make the play should indeed be part of the decision process IMO.

(Love the bolded part :food-smil )[/QUOTE]


Offense is too gassed to run one play so we are going to play OT?

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[quote=punch it in;1347283]Offense is too gassed to run one play so we are going to play OT?[/quote]

Yes, give them a few minutes to regroup, rather than gamble everything on a play you almost know they're not going to make...
Players get out a couple of plays after a big play (WR, DL etc...), so yeah, a few minutes does make a difference (that's what she said).

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[quote=MTK;1347207]While I'm not going to kill Ron over the decision, but I would have gone for 2.

But what I will kill him over is his weak explanation saying the offense was gassed. Fuck that man, as head coach you own the decision.[/quote]

Rivera's explanation was as weak as ten years old soda. He's been known to occasionally say ridiculous stuff throughout his tenure in DC.

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[quote=punch it in;1347283]Offense is too gassed to run one play so we are going to play OT?[/quote]

Maybe he meant they ate beans and were farting. What a weak ass excuse by Ron. I did agree with going into OT and had a chance if the refs opened their eyes, Terry was in. That was a huge call.

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I can't buy that a group of grown ass men who are elite athletes were too tired to lineup for 1 more fucking play, to beat a legit super bowl contender on the road. Don't buy it for a second, and it's even worse if true. Also, wouldn't the defense be just as tired, on top of being on their heels after giving up the TD? Rivera just covering his own ass like he always does. I don't care if people were fine kicking the XP and going to OT, I would have went for it. But Rivera's reasoning was the most ridiculous reasoning possible.

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1347285]Yes, give them a few minutes to regroup, rather than gamble everything on a play you almost know they're not going to make...
Players get out a couple of plays after a big play (WR, DL etc...), so yeah, a few minutes does make a difference (that's what she said).[/QUOTE]


Well i think they had a ton of momentum so im not sure id say they had no shot. Anyway im totally not second guessing the decision itself. I hear you about a little breather, sort of, and it is what she said but one play is one play. They certainly didn’t look gassed on that last play. I don’t know. I think the excuse was crap. Just say they are a damn good team and you didn’t want the outcome to come down to one play. Felt good about going to OT because you had momentum.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1347292]Well i think they had a ton of momentum so im not sure id say they had no shot. Anyway im totally not second guessing the decision itself. I hear you about a little breather, sort of, and it is what she said but one play is one play. They certainly didn’t look gassed on that last play. I don’t know. I think the excuse was crap. Just say they are a damn good team and you didn’t want the outcome to come down to one play. Felt good about going to OT because you had momentum.[/QUOTE]For sure that's a better response... we know Ron suck in press confs ^^

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1347295]For sure that's a better response... [B]we know Ron suck in press confs [/B]^^

Envoyé de mon SHV48 en utilisant Tapatalk[/quote]

But yet, he never shuts the fuck up.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1347243]I 100% agree with this and then some. And he is going to have some more rough patches but I don't care. He more than passes the eye test. That was some big boy shit yesterday, especially on that last drive. That is exactly what you look for in your QB.[/quote]

If we can give him an Oline and continue to develop him we can compete certainly in this division.

I’d like to see Ron to exit and transition to EB and let JDR act as assistant HC and control the defense, I don’t think that’s a bad play.

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Toe was inbounds

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1347299]Toe was inbounds

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This really doesn't show if his foot is actually down or still on the db's arm . It was a really close call. We also got some ticky tack calls that lead to points. That's not why we lost. We lost cause Del Rio and his defense, particularly Forbes, stunk.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1347316]This really doesn't show if his foot is actually down or still on the db's arm . It was a really close call. We also got some ticky tack calls that lead to points. That's not why we lost. We lost cause Del Rio and his defense, particularly Forbes, stunk.[/quote]

They would have been in the 40 yard line with Howell balling, all they needed was a FG. Blame for the loss unfortunately goes to Way for a shitty punt at a critical time.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1347316]This really doesn't show if his foot is actually down or still on the db's arm . It was a really close call. We also got some ticky tack calls that lead to points. That's not why we lost. We lost cause Del Rio and his defense, particularly Forbes, stunk.[/quote]

Here's another one. [url]https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1076439930385744&set=a.242208720475540[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1347326]They would have been in the 40 yard line with Howell balling, all they needed was a FG. Blame for the loss unfortunately goes to Way for a shitty punt at a critical time.[/quote]

A FG would've only given us a lead, but the Eagles would've gotten the ball for a chance to tie or win.

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[quote=PorkSkins;1347349]A FG would've only given us a lead, but the Eagles would've gotten the ball for a chance to tie or win.[/quote]

True, but with a kickoff giving them the ball on the 25, not a punt putting them at midfield. Point is moot though.

And the poor punt was more on Cheeseman. Kid needs to get out of his own head and fix his snapping or be gone.

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It's all moot!

A lot of really great hindsight here. They didn't lose because RR decided not to go for 2, or because Terry was called out of bounds, or because of any one play / call.

Bottom line is they just needed to play better. They needed to be more consistent. You can't put together three good quarters and expect to beat a really good team in their house.

Hopefully they learned a lot about themselves, and that one sticks with them. Time to move on to Da Bears.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1347363]It's all moot!

A lot of really great hindsight here. They didn't lose because RR decided not to go for 2, or because Terry was called out of bounds, or because of any one play / call.

Bottom line is they just needed to play better. They needed to be more consistent. You can't put together three good quarters and expect to beat a really good team in their house.

Hopefully they learned a lot about themselves, and that one sticks with them. Time to move on to Da Bears.[/QUOTE]


Yup. Third quarter got away from us instead of the first. We did play great for three quarters on the road against a great team. 3-2 here we come.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1347299]Toe was inbounds

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Like skinsfan said his foot is on the defenders arm which rolls it out of bounds. You need to rewind that. There is a point where Scary gets the other foot down and has a moment to just plant his other foot but he doesn’t. He sort of extends it and it winds up rolling over the defender’s forearm. Would have liked to see him just stick that foot in the dirt. Oh well.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1347339]Here's another one. [url]https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1076439930385744&set=a.242208720475540[/url][/QUOTE]


Toes are still up in the air. He needed to plant that foot!
McLaurin sucks! Trade him for a fifth! Lol.
Seriously though rewatch the whole catch there was that moment where it’s like oh man point that toe in the turf! Such our luck with the forearm. Anyway beat the damn Bears bad and it will all be better.

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Just watched the game again. First half the OL did a really good job so did the D. With 2 minutes left Washington was at the Philly 10 yard line and could have gone up 21-7. In the 10 yard line, Howell tripped on 1st down, on 2nd down, Gibson got the ball bobbled it, recovered and lost yards, 3rd down Howell to Dotson to the 10 yd line, settle for field goal.

Philly faces 4th, Hurt scrambles sideways1st down, Hurts makes pass to Smith with 30+ seconds to 30 yd line. Settle for field goal 17-10 halftime

3rd quarter:

Hurts 28 yard pass to Brown to 35 yd, Philly avoids disaster when Payne and Young him, ruled incomplete. Settle for FG 17-13.

Washington gets ball with 11:38, they face 3rd and 4 with 9:35, Dotson has ball go through his hands, punt. Hurts throws 59 ydTD to Brown, dbacks look keystone cops, 2 point conversion successful. Washington gets ball with 7:11 on clock, Thomas gets 1st down on QB sneak. Howell to Brown pass to 20 yard, incomplete, Blankenship gets away with hold, next play holding penalty on OL, punt with 4:35 left. Gainwell big run, Hurts to Goedert pass to 35 yd. Hurts to Brown, PI ball on 26 yd. End of qtr.

4th qtr:

Gainwell fumbles, lane Johnson recovers, FG 24-17. Howell drives down, scrambles and gets hit out of bounds, PF, 1st down. Pass to Dotson to 5 yd line, incomplete. 3rd and 1, Thomas tries QB sneak, illegal formation penalty. 1st down to philly 25 yd. Robinson 9 yd carry. Robinson 15 yd TD run, 24-24 with 8:01 left. JSW misses sack, Hurts scrambles for 30 yds. to 50 yd line, Forbes breaks up pass to Brown, Hurts throws another pass, Forbes drops int. Washington starts at their own 10. Howell overthrows Pringle at 45 yd line. Howell scrambles 20 yds for 1st down. Howell sacked due to Wylie lose 7 yds. False start Wylie, 4th down. Way punts, bad SP coverage, Philly in 43 yd. Zaccheus catch to 45 with 2 minutes. Hurts throws bomb to Brown TD 31-24 1:44 left. Howell faces 3rd and 17, pass to Pringle, 4th and 2. 16 yd pass to Brown, 1st down, ball 30 yd line, pass to Tmac to 10 yd line 5 seconds left. Pass over middle incomplete, 2 seconds left, TD to Dotson.

OT

Howell to Dotson 3rd and 5, pass to McLaurin to philly 45 yd. Ruled incomplete (BULLSHIT). Terrible punt by way, ball on Philly 40 yd line. Hurts to Brown ball on 48 yd line, 4th down, Philly tush/push 1st down. Hurts to Swift to 39 yd line Davis barely missed him. Hurts pass,,intentional grounding, ball on 45 yd. Pass to Smith ball on 44 yd. FG good, game over.

Observations:

Forbes was the main culprit, followed by Wylie allowing a sack followed by a penalty. Forbes dropped int, Dotson let ball through his hands on critical pass, refs blew penalty on Blankenship vs Brown, refs blew Tmac catch in OT, JSW missed a critical sack leading to a 30 yard scramble, special teams coverage sucked and Way’s terrible punt in OT.

Howell was overall outstanding, D played well except for Forbes mistakes. OL did well except for Wylie’s mistakes. With the ball on the Philly 10 yard line before halftime, Howell tripped, followed by Gibson bobble, settled for FG instead of TD.