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[quote=punch it in;1340625]That is the one thing that is still bothering me. I need Dan Snyder to be absolutely miserable for the next 30 years. But with 6 billion dollars that is going to be tough. He absolutely must know that everyone is elated but I doubt that bothers him. He will sail off into the sunset but my hatred of the man will follow me for the rest of my life.[/quote]

You can be rich and miserable. And I'd wager he's not a happy person.

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I feel kinda lukewarm to not really caring. This entire thing is so anti climatic. I just don't care- sadly.

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It ain’t anti climatic for me … he is on his way out, gone,finished,see ya,don’t let the door..,nah.. nah Goodbye!, We now can only hope the New owners live up to our expectations..😳.. which they won’t😀! Winning is the ONLY thing that will bring this team ( whatever the name may be..) back to respectability..
I would not fire Ron or make any changes in staff .. these guys stayed in the trenches and did as good as they could while working for the WORST owner maybe of all time !! Let’s see them under hopefully light years better ownership ..

Things that need to happen .. New stadium,Get our fans in the seats( winning does that) .. find out if we have QB because without that nothing matters .. all the talk about name change etc is not important at all to me .. unless there is some name that was never brought up in the last search ( I never liked any of them ) .. and rest assured if the name had not been changed from Redskins .. this new owner team would do it now !
If Snyder leaving doesn’t get a fan fired up then I’m not sure what will… maybe winning??

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[quote=rocnrik;1340636]It ain’t anti climatic for me … he is on his way out, gone,finished,see ya,don’t let the door..,nah.. nah Goodbye!, We now can only hope the New owners live up to our expectations..😳.. which they won’t😀! Winning is the ONLY thing that will bring this team ( whatever the name may be..) back to respectability..
I would not fire Ron or make any changes in staff .. these guys stayed in the trenches and did as good as they could while working for the WORST owner maybe of all time !! Let’s see them under hopefully light years better ownership ..

Things that need to happen .. New stadium,Get our fans in the seats( winning does that) .. find out if we have QB because without that nothing matters .. all the talk about name change etc is not important at all to me .. unless there is some name that was never brought up in the last search ( I never liked any of them ) .. and rest assured if the name had not been changed from Redskins .. this new owner team would do it now !
If Snyder leaving doesn’t get a fan fired up then I’m not sure what will… maybe winning??[/quote]

For me the first thing is getting rid of every single thing Dan Snyder. That means Jason Wright, Ron, Jack, Mayhew, Doug, Marty Hurney, Eric B, the entire marketing staff, outside marketing staff that worked w/ the team on the rebrand, Commanders, uniforms, the janitorial staff. It needs to be a total house cleaning. Just like when Dan took over, he fired everyone. That exact same thing needs to happen this time around. I do think at the end of the season Eric B should get a shot at the head job- meaning give him an interview.

I really don't care to see Majic Johnson being pushed out in front of us like he is going to be making football decisions. We all know he's just a prop w/ a very small piece of the team. We've seen enough of that shit w/ Doug.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1340637]For me the first thing is getting rid of every single thing Dan Snyder. That means Jason Wright, Ron, Jack, Mayhew, Doug, Marty Hurney, Eric B, the entire marketing staff, outside marketing staff that worked w/ the team on the rebrand, Commanders, uniforms, the janitorial staff. It needs to be a total house cleaning. Just like when Dan took over, he fired everyone. That exact same thing needs to happen this time around. I do think at the end of the season Eric B should get a shot at the head job- meaning give him an interview.

I really don't care to see Majic Johnson being pushed out in front of us like he is going to be making football decisions. We all know he's just a prop w/ a very small piece of the team. We've seen enough of that shit w/ Doug.[/quote]

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[quote=rocnrik;1340636]It ain’t anti climatic for me … he is on his way out, gone,finished,see ya,don’t let the door..,nah.. nah Goodbye!, We now can only hope the New owners live up to our expectations..😳.. which they won’t😀! Winning is the ONLY thing that will bring this team ( whatever the name may be..) back to respectability..
I would not fire Ron or make any changes in staff .. these guys stayed in the trenches and did as good as they could while working for the WORST owner maybe of all time !! Let’s see them under hopefully light years better ownership ..

Things that need to happen .. New stadium,Get our fans in the seats( winning does that) .. find out if we have QB because without that nothing matters .. all the talk about name change etc is not important at all to me .. unless there is some name that was never brought up in the last search ( I never liked any of them ) .. and rest assured if the name had not been changed from Redskins .. this new owner team would do it now !
If Snyder leaving doesn’t get a fan fired up then I’m not sure what will… maybe winning??[/quote]

Sorry, but no. The first order of business should be clean out that front office.

Bruce Allen was bad. Jason Wright was not better. Ron and company will have their lame duck season only because of the timing. He has been very candid about feeling like he will not be retained past the 2023 season. And he shouldn't be. He has not done enough to save/keep his job if you look at strictly wins and losses. 22-27 in three seasons here. 12 years as a HC and he's only had double digit wins three times.

He was the "best of the worst" candidate following Gruden's dismissal and I think he did as good as a job as anyone else who has had to work under Snyder. That being said unless somehow he wins the NFC east this year I can't see him being retained in 24'.

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I’m with SS84.
Burn this shit Down!

Can’t leave traces of Snyder’s cancer behind.

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[QUOTE=jamf;1340640]I’m with SS84.
Burn this shit Down!

Can’t leave traces of Snyder’s cancer behind.[/QUOTE]


Yes! I used to think changing the name again would just be another embarrassment and hassle. Now I want all the stench of Snyder removed. “Commanders” will be that stinky dingleberry that got stuck in your shorts when you were 6 — flush it ALL down!


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[quote=That Guy;1340626]I don't think he's a generally happy person. Money didn't really seem to change that, so I imagine more money is not going to make a big difference either.[/quote]

I'm with you. I don't care what he does for the rest of his miserable life as long as it doesn't impact mine. Take your 6B dollars and disappear. I don't need to keep hearing about whatever trial he'll be facing. I want to stop hearing/reading his name.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1340635]I feel kinda lukewarm to not really caring. This entire thing is so anti climatic. I just don't care- sadly.[/QUOTE]


Come on man. Last year at this time this was a pipe dream. It was our only way out. Only way real coaches and gm’s and free agents would ever want to come here. Now it is reality. I feel blessed.

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1340643]I'm with you. I don't care what he does for the rest of his miserable life as long as it doesn't impact mine. Take your 6B dollars and disappear. I don't need to keep hearing about whatever trial he'll be facing. I want to stop hearing/reading his name.[/QUOTE]


He ruined like 25 years of my football life, and ruined a lot of other people’s lives literally in those years. I wish him nothing but bad karma and misery. Dude wasn’t just a bad owner but also a bad person.
I just did yoga and all the namaste in the universe wont change my hatred for that turd nugget.

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[quote=punch it in;1340645]He ruined like 25 years of my football life, and ruined a lot of other people’s lives literally in those years. I wish him nothing but bad karma and misery. Dude wasn’t just a bad owner but also a bad person.
I just did yoga and all the namaste in the universe wont change my hatred for that turd nugget.[/quote]

I get that, and I'll probably keep middle fingering any screen he appears on for the rest of my life, but I don't need that to happen too often, if that makes any sense ^^

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I think the business side you turn over as soon as possible. Harris has competent sports business people running the Sixers and Devils, you take a 2nd in command at one of those places and give them a shot here, and you take people from Rales's circle and leverage his connections in the community and work towards that glorious new stadium. That should all start as soon as possible.

On the football side it's a terrible time to make a change, so you give Ron this season to show what he's got. And being a reasonable person like Harris is, you actually keep an open mind and let Ron demonstrate to you that he was right about Howell and Bienemey and all of it. And if he's not right you turn him over next year.

But if he's right and we take a leap, then you consider that maybe we've got something going here if ownership can just do what they're supposed to do and let the football people do their thing. Mediocre can't cut it after four years, and I'm sure Harris knows that. But you give him a chance to show he can be good.

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[quote=Schneed10;1340651]I think the business side you turn over as soon as possible. Harris has competent sports business people running the Sixers and Devils, you take a 2nd in command at one of those places and give them a shot here, and you take people from Rales's circle and leverage his connections in the community and work towards that glorious new stadium. That should all start as soon as possible.

On the football side it's a terrible time to make a change, so you give Ron this season to show what he's got. And being a reasonable person like Harris is, you actually keep an open mind and let Ron demonstrate to you that he was right about Howell and Bienemey and all of it. And if he's not right you turn him over next year.

But if he's right and we take a leap, then you consider that maybe we've got something going here if ownership can just do what they're supposed to do and let the football people do their thing. Mediocre can't cut it after four years, and I'm sure Harris knows that. But you give him a chance to show he can be good.[/quote]

Agreed. I just read Keim's article about what the new owner will need to do and he covered a little bit about Keim's work with Sixers and Devils. It's clear that Harris knows what to do, so if he wants to give Rivera and his people a chance next year, I would be fine with that. Considering what Rivera had to face throughout the first 3 years here, and the fact that he kept the team focused on football and didn't create any drama within the team despite the constant hound from media and people, it's actually impressive. The team's performance is a different story though, but it can be fixed with a better QB and hopefully Howell is that guy.

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Honestly it is difficult to see them not being a better team this year, with Bienemy replacing Turner and a QB who is way better than what we had, Brian Robinson fully recovered and the feel good honeymoon period of new ownership. It would take a monumental effort for Ron to screw it up and be no better than last year, at which point he would deserve to be fired. How much of an improvement the new owner would need to retain Ron remains to be seen.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1340653]Honestly it is difficult to see them not being a better team this year, with Bienemy replacing Turner and a QB who is way better than what we had, Brian Robinson fully recovered and the feel good honeymoon period of new ownership. It would take a monumental effort for Ron to screw it up and be no better than last year, at which point he would deserve to be fired. How much of an improvement the new owner would need to retain Ron remains to be seen.[/quote]

9 wins has to be the absolute minimum. But year 4 and 17 games, the expectation should be 10+.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1340655]9 wins has to be the absolute minimum. But year 4 and 17 games, the expectation should be 10+.[/quote]

I think that is a pretty reasonable target

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1340653]Honestly it is difficult to see them not being a better team this year, with Bienemy replacing Turner and a QB who is way better than what we had, Brian Robinson fully recovered and the feel good honeymoon period of new ownership. It would take a monumental effort for Ron to screw it up and be no better than last year, at which point he would deserve to be fired. How much of an improvement the new owner would need to retain Ron remains to be seen.[/quote]

The bugaboo will be the up and down nature of defense. There aren't many defenses that finish in the top 10 one year and then stay there the next.

We however should be a team that's equipped to do it given how disruptive we can be up front. But 2021 was a dropoff from 2020. Hope 2023 isn't a dropoff from 2022.

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[quote=Schneed10;1340667]The bugaboo will be the up and down nature of defense. There aren't many defenses that finish in the top 10 one year and then stay there the next.

We however should be a team that's equipped to do it given how disruptive we can be up front. But 2021 was a dropoff from 2020. Hope 2023 isn't a dropoff from 2022.[/quote]

True, wonder whether Ron will go down because he never really fixed the MLB. Holcomb is gone and the new guy is an unknown quantity learning a new defense

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It's time to hit that motherfuckin' agreement with the ole:

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1340660]I think that is a pretty reasonable target[/quote]

If this team doesn't win 9 games in yr 4 Ron is gone

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[quote=Schneed10;1340667]The bugaboo will be the up and down nature of defense. There aren't many defenses that finish in the top 10 one year and then stay there the next.

We however should be a team that's equipped to do it given how disruptive we can be up front. But 2021 was a dropoff from 2020. Hope 2023 isn't a dropoff from 2022.[/quote]

Another bugaboo will be whether or not Howell is the guy.

We should expect some growing pains with him, and I don't know that it's fair to just declare him [quote=EdmundDorf;1340653]...a QB who is way better than what we had...[/quote] after seeing him play in one regular season game.

The other bugaboo is the schedule...10 of 17 games against playoff teams from last year... plus improved Jets, Broncos, and Bears teams... Won't be easy.

All that said, if RR doesn't figure out a way to win at least 9 games and make the playoffs (not sneak in with a 8-9 record), he should be done.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1340680]Another bugaboo will be whether or not Howell is the guy.[/quote]

True, but Ron is betting his job on the fact that he is.

Your right it was a bit of an exageration to say he will be way better, but our QBs were awful last year so it should not be too much to expect something much closer to competent starter level.

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I don't think RR had much of a choice. He has to go with who is on the roster, but honestly it's not out of the question that Brissett could start the season as QB1.

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1340648]I get that, and I'll probably keep middle fingering any screen he appears on for the rest of my life, but I don't need that to happen too often, if that makes any sense ^^[/QUOTE]


Complete sense. I should rephrase that I never want to see him again, just maybe a story in a couple years that he is divorced and broke or in jail or something along those lines,…

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1340682]True, but [B]Ron is betting his job on the fact that he is.[/B]

Your right it was a bit of an exageration to say he will be way better, but our QBs were awful last year so it should not be too much to expect something much closer to competent starter level.[/quote]

I think RR knows that the new owner is going to want a complete break from everything Snyder and wont be re-signed no matter how the season goes. RR's not betting anything because he's gone no matter what.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1340680]Another bugaboo will be whether or not Howell is the guy.

We should expect some growing pains with him, and I don't know that it's fair to just declare him after seeing him play in one regular season game.

The other bugaboo is the schedule...10 of 17 games against playoff teams from last year... plus improved Jets, Broncos, and Bears teams... Won't be easy.

All that said, if RR doesn't figure out a way to win at least 9 games and make the playoffs (not sneak in with a 8-9 record), he should be done.[/quote]

Yeah I'm not sure Howell is that much better than TH yet... He played 1 game. We all hope he is

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1340701]Yeah I'm not sure Howell is that much better than TH yet... He played 1 game. We all hope he is[/quote]

He's better and has a higher floor.

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Sam Howell does not get enough respect here. Bunch of haters lol.

We should be clinging to hope for every young QB that comes here.

If we can add another couple solid OLineman in the draft, this offense is gonna bust on faces.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1340703]Sam Howell does not get enough respect here. Bunch of haters lol.

We should be clinging to hope for every young QB that comes here.

If we can add another couple solid OLineman in the draft, this offense is gonna bust on faces.[/quote]


I suspect a lot of people forget that the team had 2nd/3rd round grade on Howell in the draft. Keim even said that if the team hadn't traded for Wentz, they would have drafted Howell in the 2nd or 3rd round. A lot of us likely would be clamoring for the team to start Howell if we drafted him in the 2nd round pick.

I am and will continue to be Howell believer, unless he starts losing games for the team.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1340703]Sam Howell does not get enough respect here. Bunch of haters lol.

We should be clinging to hope for every young QB that comes here.

If we can add another couple solid OLineman in the draft, this offense is gonna bust on faces.[/quote]

i hope he is TB12

but he has such a limited sample size of play it's hard to say "ok we are all set at QB1"

honestly his DAL game was decent but he threw it just 19 times and the INT he threw was just plain awful.

i say i am optimistically cautious about sam howell

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1340702]He's better and has a higher floor.[/quote]

I am leaning that way too but want to see it first LOL we've been fooled before

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I don’t think SH has much to do with RR’s future. After Harris revamps the FO and has a real GM running the show, RR is history and the equation shifts to EB + SH = ? It’s all upside for EB until we see how he’s doing with his QB1 (SH or otherwise) into the ‘24 season.

This will be the first time in 25 years that we actually have a shot at developing a QB within a well-run system.


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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1340703]Sam Howell does not get enough respect here. Bunch of haters lol.

We should be clinging to hope for every young QB that comes here.

If we can add another couple solid OLineman in the draft, this offense is gonna bust on faces.[/quote]

What exactly has Sam Howell done to warrant this respect you speak of? He's 11 for 19 with 2 TD (one rushing) and 1 INT. That's his NFL career. Lol

I think it's okay to "cling for hope" while also being skeptical about what he might become. He has a lot to prove. He could end up being the unquestioned starter here for a long time, or he could end up carrying a clipboard for most of his career (or somewhere in between). Like I've said before, there's not even a guarantee that he will start the season as the number one QB. He still has to beat out Brissett, which is not a given.

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Slinging’ Sammy Howell

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1340708]What exactly has Sam Howell done to warrant this respect you speak of? He's 11 for 19 with 2 TD (one rushing) and 1 INT. That's his NFL career. Lol

I think it's okay to "cling for hope" while also being skeptical about what he might become. He has a lot to prove. He could end up being the unquestioned starter here for a long time, or he could end up carrying a clipboard for most of his career (or somewhere in between). Like I've said before, there's not even a guarantee that he will start the season as the number one QB. He still has to beat out Brissett, which is not a given.[/quote]

1-0 against Dallass. I can respect that.

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Dan Snyder's preliminary deal to sell Commanders to Josh Harris reportedly now in NFL's hands:

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/dan-snyders-preliminary-deal-to-sell-commanders-to-josh-harris-reportedly-now-in-nfls-hands-213128938.html[/url]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1340710]1-0 against Dallass. I can respect that.[/quote]

Can't argue with that!

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[URL="https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/04/18/if-sale-goes-through-josh-harris-will-own-the-minimum-30-percent-of-commanders/"]If sale goes through, Josh Harris will own the minimum 30 percent of Commanders[/URL]

The process of Daniel Snyder selling the Washington Commanders is going to take some time, likely because the situation involves Daniel Snyder. If/when the team is sold to Josh Harris, the ownership breakdown has surfaced.

Via Mike Ozanian of Forbes.com (who reported in December that Snyder had multiple offers “well north” of $7 billion, so there’s that), Harris would own 30 percent, the minimum required by league rules.

The group of Harris and 17 limited partners also uses the maximum allowable debt under league rules, a whopping $1.1 billion.

Of the limited partners, billionaire Mitchell Rales will hold 12 percent. Magic Johnson would hold four percent.

At a sale price of $6 billion, Magic will be putting up $240 million. By way of comparison, Jerry Jones paid $150 million for all of the Cowboys in 1989.

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This whole sale is gonna crash … I’ll be shocked if Snyder even sells the team within years .. now you got others involved with bids and somewhat big question marks about financials … I could very well see this sale being a total crap show of lawyers/lawsuits and Snyder sitting back giving everyone the finger … I don’t trust any of this to ge well ..