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[quote=punch it in;1341053]Howell is going to surprise a lot of folks.

Especially Jamf.[/quote]

I need to get ahold of Sam's people and get him to send a stripper or 5 to jamf's house. We all have a price. I want jamf on the Howell train.

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[quote=jamf;1337871]QB is the only way to fast track this team to success. Why settle for an undersized project QB?

We need to bring in a project QB in the first round that has all the tools like a Mahomes or Allen and hope he works out. If not, you have midget Howell.
If he can’t win it outright in the preseason he probably isn’t going to be any good.

We need options. I’m not against Howell but I want to reach for an elite QB instead of being in QB purgatory like Dallas.[/quote]

Howell is 6 Foot... He's not that small LOL But I wouldn't be against AR15 LOL

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1341065]Howell is 6 Foot... He's not that small LOL But I wouldn't be against AR15 LOL[/QUOTE]


I would. Unless we are drafting him for our track and field team. Lol

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[quote=punch it in;1341067]I would. Unless we are drafting him for our track and field team. Lol[/quote]

He has potential to be a good QB1, Remember many said Josh Allen would be bad too. Sometimes you have to gamble

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1341069]He has potential to be a good QB1, Remember many said Josh Allen would be bad too. Sometimes you have to gamble[/QUOTE]


Accuracy issues scare me.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1341069]He has potential to be a good QB1, Remember many said Josh Allen would be bad too. Sometimes you have to gamble[/quote]

You don't with new ownership coming in.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1341090]You don't with new ownership coming in.[/quote]

If new ownership is dictating on the QB right away, we're in trouble.

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Yeah I don’t get the whole “you can’t draft a QB until a new owner “ I thought Ron and co. call the shots?


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If Ron has any chance of sticking here then gambling on a guy who will likely take a year to develop is shear stupidity and he would deserve to get fired. Whoever replaces him will not be tied to the pick so wont be invested in developing him, which is what Richardson needs. It would in all likelihood be a wasted pick.

The safest pick for Ron is someone who can start day one and improve the team.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

I dont think Ron is drafting based on ownership. I just would not draft a quarterback from this class in the first round period. Not with the holes we got. Sam is our project quarterback. Don’t need two. Build around the first project and give him a chance. If Hendon Hooker is drafted in round two I would be less upset because apparently he is rising fast. If Sam pans out and we got Hooker in the wings I can live with the “problem”. Plus Jamf will never have to buy another jersey again.

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100%. Plus if you go into camp with those 3 QBs and Brissett winds up starting week 1, you look like an idiot, because the team will be looking to draft yet another QB next year and you have 2 more wasted picks. And probably another wasted season. Can't see RR doing this.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[URL="https://www.espn.com/blog/washington-commanders/post/_/id/42915/why-washington-is-all-in-on-sam-howell-as-its-quarterback"]https://www.espn.com/blog/washington-commanders/post/_/id/42915/why-washington-is-all-in-on-sam-howell-as-its-quarterback[/URL]

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He needs to hit the weight room and shave that beard. He looks like a total bro. When I think of the stereotypical frat bro, I think of someone that looks exactly like Howell.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1341727]He needs to hit the weight room and shave that beard. He looks like a total bro. When I think of the stereotypical frat bro, I think of someone that looks exactly like Howell.[/quote]

play well, don't care.

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Sam and EB have

Terry McLaurin
Jahan Dotson
Curtis Samuel
Brian Robinson
Antonio Gibson
Chris Rodriguez

We have weapons. I am excited how they can craft a gameplan for all of them

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=Are Jay;1341726][URL="https://www.espn.com/blog/washington-commanders/post/_/id/42915/why-washington-is-all-in-on-sam-howell-as-its-quarterback"]https://www.espn.com/blog/washington-commanders/post/_/id/42915/why-washington-is-all-in-on-sam-howell-as-its-quarterback[/URL][/quote]

The very bottom of the article is a Round1 2020 recap... a nice reminder of the other 20 players I would take over chase young.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1341732]Sam and EB have

Terry McLaurin
Jahan Dotson
Curtis Samuel
Brian Robinson
Antonio Gibson
Chris Rodriguez

We have weapons. I am excited how they can craft a gameplan for all of them[/quote]

Me too, I think EB is the biggest offseason transaction outside Snyder being gone.

Who EB chooses from the TE group to get involved in the offense. I’d watch Turner or Rogers.

I see a zone running game with power backs, an advance screen game, and more big play opportunities with our receivers

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The off season is filled w/ Kool Aid and optimism. EB does not have Mahomes. He has a QB who was drafted in the 5th round that Ron didn't even want to start in the last game until Taylor told him to.

My concern is do we have someone to even develop Sam? Is the line good enough to protect him? How fast can he learn this new offense and will he gel w/ EB? Will EB be able to run an offense?

As usual there are just too many question marks around the QB, the o-line, the head coach and the coordinator. Just inside the division we have the worst QB and probably the worst head coach, although I don't think highly of dough boy in Dallas.

Probably looking at 6 wins on the low side and 9 at the very highest.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1341746]The off season is filled w/ Kool Aid and optimism. EB does not have Mahomes. He has a QB who was drafted in the 5th round that Ron didn't even want to start in the last game until Taylor told him to.

My concern is do we have someone to even develop Sam? Is the line good enough to protect him? How fast can he learn this new offense and will he gel w/ EB? Will EB be able to run an offense?

As usual there are just too many question marks around the QB, the o-line, the head coach and the coordinator. Just inside the division we have the worst QB and probably the worst head coach, although I don't think highly of dough boy in Dallas.

Probably looking at 6 wins on the low side and 9 at the very highest.[/quote]

I think EB recognizes it’s not an easy journey with an unproven QB, but the free agent moves on the Oline and drafting of a RB while cutting another (JD)…the running game will be leaned on. Also, look for a balling screen game :Short, easy throws, misdirection, shovel passes….it’s gonna be fun to watch.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

I love how some of us are obsessed with the fact that Howell was drafted in the 5th round and ignore the fact that the NFL community had 2nd/3rd round grade on him.

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At the end of the day , Howell will have his chance to prove it this yr. For all of the folks saying he's too small , Drew Brees and RW were also labled that and I think we would all take either of thise 2 in their prime. Not saying SH is those guys but height isn't a huge factor in today's NFL

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[quote=GridIron26;1341750]I love how some of us are obsessed with the fact that Howell was drafted in the 5th round and ignore the fact that the NFL community had 2nd/3rd round grade on him.[/quote]

What matters more though? An alleged draft grade or the reality of where he was picked?

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Daniel Jones is the worst QB in the division. That will be clear by mid-season.

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[quote=MTK;1341752]What matters more though? An alleged draft grade or the reality of where he was picked?[/quote]

or at this point who cares where he was picked that just gets you in the door now lets see what he can do

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1341755]Daniel Jones is the worst QB in the division. That will be clear by mid-season.[/quote]

G1 disagrees

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[quote=mredskins;1341756]or at this point who cares where he was picked that just gets you in the door now lets see what he can do[/quote]

Of course how he plays will be the ultimate deciding factor. But if you're looking at the history of 5th rd QBs typically they don't turn into franchise QBs.

I'm all for giving him a shot, I just won't be surprised to see JB at some point, I don't see SH having a very long leash.

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[quote=MTK;1341758]Of course how he plays will be the ultimate deciding factor. But if you're looking at the history of 5th rd QBs typically they don't turn into franchise QBs.

I'm all for giving him a shot, I just won't be surprised to see JB at some point, I don't see SH having a very long leash.[/quote]

agree, its why i wish we had gotten a QB in the draft hooker maybe , just another person to battle. On the board we keep saying keep drafting QBs until you find one.

that position is so frustrating.

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Look at that throw down the sideline to McLaurin. I like that!

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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i_F6kA54x0[/url]

Also, for fucks sake NFL, let us post youtube clips you cucks.

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[quote=mredskins;1341759]agree, its why i wish we had gotten a QB in the draft hooker maybe , just another person to battle. On the board we keep saying keep drafting QBs until you find one.

that position is so frustrating.[/quote]

I could be wrong, but I think if you drafted Hooker, that was for the 2024 season - based on his injury. I don't think he's ready for a battle, or to start this season...at least not week 1.

There's not enough reps to go around to have a three-way battle anyway, in my opinion. I'm glad they didn't draft a QB. Let Howell & Brissett battle...if they can't get it done, we'll be drafting a QB next year under a new staff.

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[quote=MTK;1341752]What matters more though? An alleged draft grade or the reality of where he was picked?[/quote]

That's fair question.. Although Keim did say that we would have drafted Howell in the 2nd/3rd round pick if we hadn't traded for Wentz. Would you have felt differently if we did draft him in the 2nd round?

Edit: just like a few others said, Howell is our best option given our cards so let's just roll with him and see where he takes us.

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[quote=GridIron26;1341770]That's fair question.. Although Keim did say that we would have drafted Howell in the 2nd/3rd round pick if we hadn't traded for Wentz. Would you have felt differently if we did draft him in the 2nd round?

Edit: just like a few others said, Howell is our best option given our cards so let's just roll with him and see where he takes us.[/quote]

I'm all for giving him a shot.

But it's worth noting the rest of the league passed him over multiple times as well.

I hope he proves all the doubters wrong.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1341771]I'm all for giving him a shot.

But it's worth noting the rest of the league passed him over multiple times as well.

I hope he proves all the doubters wrong.[/QUOTE]


He lost a lot of his surrounding talent his junior year at UNC, couple that with his height and throw in how weak everyone looked at the quarterback class as a whole. You get a once sure fire top 10 pick falling into the fifth round. He may not pan out, but I put absolutely zero stock in the fact that he fell in the draft. It was 100 percent due to things out if his control. If he had come out the year before he would have been a first rounder. We were fortunate to get him in the fifth round.

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[quote=punch it in;1341772]He lost a lot of his surrounding talent his junior year at UNC, couple that with his height and throw in how weak everyone looked at the quarterback class as a whole. You get a once sure fire top 10 pick falling into the fifth round. He may not pan out, but I put absolutely zero stock in the fact that he fell in the draft. It was 100 percent due to things out if his control. If he had come out the year before he would have been a first rounder. We were fortunate to get him in the fifth round.[/quote]

You don't think the league knew about the talent he lost? And considering the weak QB class he came out in he should have easily stood out. Let's not get into the height excuse when Bryce Young just went #1 at 5'10 and Kyler Murray in 2019 at the same height.

Sorry man, not buying any of this. If he was a legit first round talent he would have gone in the first round. Again, I'll be rooting for him and I really hope he proves the doubters wrong, maybe we did find a gem, but history is not on our side when it comes to 5th rounders becoming stud QBs.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1341773]You don't think the league knew about the talent he lost? And considering the weak QB class he came out in he should have easily stood out. Let's not get into the height excuse when Bryce Young just went #1 at 5'10 and Kyler Murray in 2019 at the same height.

Sorry man, not buying any of this. If he was a legit first round talent he would have gone in the first round. Again, I'll be rooting for him and I really hope he proves the doubters wrong, maybe we did find a gem, but history is not on our side when it comes to 5th rounders becoming stud QBs.[/QUOTE]


But he was a legit first round talent the year before. His play didn’t fall off that much. So [emoji2371].

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The one thing i like about the Sam is this is kinda the perfect situation for this team right now. A guy the team likes and based on the sale and new regime in waiting, if it fails…it won’t hurt down the road. Just this year.

Unlike the Haskins decision where the new regime in Ron was forced to give Haskins a look when we had the no 2 pick in the draft with solid QB options that year. We hear “set back” a lot, there was no truer of a definition of a franchise set back than that. Still disgusted by that move

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1341775]The one thing i like about the Sam is this is kinda the perfect situation for this team right now. A guy the team likes and based on the sale and new regime in waiting, if it fails…it won’t hurt down the road. Just this year.

Unlike the Haskins decision where the new regime in Ron was forced to give Haskins a look when we had the no 2 pick in the draft with solid QB options that year. We hear “set back” a lot, there was no truer of a definition of a franchise set back than that. Still disgusted by that move[/QUOTE]


[emoji817]. if he becomes the guy everyone thought he would be after his first two years it is an absolute dream scenario and if he doesn’t oh well.

Why Howell went in the fifth round after his third year at UNC is still a mystery imo.

Old article but as far as him slipping in the draft it is still timely.

[url]https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/sam-howell-nfl-draft-2022/d5bzace3f5rafuzzek5lwpk0[/url]

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[quote=punch it in;1341774]But he was a legit first round talent the year before. His play didn’t fall off that much. So [emoji2371].[/quote]

Right, his play didn't fall off much and he came out in a weak class and still lasted until the 5th. I think fans need to let go of the draft hype and grades because it meant nothing in his case.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[QUOTE=MTK;1341777]Right, his play didn't fall off much and he came out in a weak class and still lasted until the 5th. I think fans need to let go of the draft hype and grades because it meant nothing in his case.[/QUOTE]


Well in fairness the hype for him was before his third year. But even before his draft he was a second round projection.

Hey if nothing else the guy will play with a chip on his shoulder. Id still take him over Pickett too.

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If you check twitter today apparently Sam’s ceiling is Colt McCoy lol!! Good lord these DC media guys kill me


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1341813]If you check twitter today apparently Sam’s ceiling is Colt McCoy lol!! Good lord these DC media guys kill me

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Anyone that posted that is truly fucking stupid. Maybe he doesn't pan out, but his ceiling is certainly not Colt McCoy. That's absurd.