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[quote=MTK;1316948]I'm sure a school safety officer or a teacher with a gun would have fared a lot better[/quote]

Body Armor, why the hell should the public be allowed to buy body armor? There is a effing red flag right there!

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[url]https://apple.news/ARMixKYV-T6G7-s0gN3pDZw[/url]

This shooter was never on any radar. Not much we as a society can do if a suddenly sane person snaps.

Obviously no guns in our country would have thrown a wrench in his plans but we are so saturated with gums now it’s nearly impossible to rid our country of guns.

[I][B]State officials on Wednesday said Ramos wasn’t well known to law enforcement before the shooting and had no documented mental health issues and no known arrest record. If Ramos had a juvenile criminal record, it’s possible officials wouldn’t have access to it.[/B][/I]

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The Onion knocked it out of the park yesterday and today. [url]https://www.theonion.com/[/url]

Normally the headline the day after a mass shooting in the U.S. is the location of the shooting and:

"'No way to prevent this,' says only nation where this regularly happens

They made every link on the page to a different version they ran with the different cities mass shootings have taken place. Then they had some great satirical articles towards the NRA.

[url]https://www.theonion.com/report-uvalde-gunman-had-accomplices-as-far-as-washing-1848976025[/url]

[url]https://www.theonion.com/nra-sets-1-000-killed-in-school-shooting-as-amount-it-w-1819573533[/url]

[url]https://www.theonion.com/nra-publishes-tips-for-staying-safe-while-committing-a-1830418497[/url]

It goes on and on. Bravo Onion Bravo

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[quote=mredskins;1316968][url]https://apple.news/ARMixKYV-T6G7-s0gN3pDZw[/url]

This shooter was never on any radar. Not much we as a society can do if a suddenly sane person snaps.

Obviously no guns in our country would have thrown a wrench in his plans but we are so saturated with gums now it’s nearly impossible to rid our country of guns.

[I][B]State officials on Wednesday said Ramos wasn’t well known to law enforcement before the shooting and had no documented mental health issues and no known arrest record. If Ramos had a juvenile criminal record, it’s possible officials wouldn’t have access to it.[/B][/I][/quote]

Drug addict mother and father not in his life, that’s the base recipe for mental anguish. The Buffalo shooter, spent his Covid lockdowns teenage years getting radicalized in popular racist corners of the internet. In looking at mass shooters, a lot of these people are so young..17-18-19-20. Also the rise in crime in large cities have been driven by young offenders. The rise in car jackings…driven by offender 14,15,16.

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[quote=Chico23231;1316979][I]Drug addict mother and father not in his life, that’s the base recipe for mental anguish.[/I] The Buffalo shooter, spent his Covid lockdowns teenage years getting radicalized in popular racist corners of the internet. In looking at mass shooters, a lot of these people are so young..17-18-19-20. Also the rise in crime in large cities have been driven by young offenders. The rise in car jackings…driven by offender 14,15,16.[/quote]

That alone is not getting you on any watch list. My point was specific to this texas shooter there was really no signs he was going to do this.

There is a interview with his grandfather, kudos to that guy for coming out and facing the fire, sounds like he is ex criminal but has turned his life around.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is5OE9qKB74[/url]

Again this is a sucker punch no one saw coming. My only answer would be that every school in America must act as though this sucker punch is coming and be prepared on a daily basis. I don't know that specific school's protocols but somehow the shooter got in. My kids schools are heavily locked down and both have officers there all day, still nothing is 100%.

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[quote=Chico23231;1316979]Drug addict mother and father not in his life, that’s the base recipe for mental anguish. The Buffalo shooter, spent his Covid lockdowns teenage years getting radicalized in popular racist corners of the internet. In looking at mass shooters, a lot of these people are so young..17-18-19-20. Also the rise in crime in large cities have been driven by young offenders. The rise in car jackings…driven by offender 14,15,16.[/quote]

I swear you suffer from ADD +ADHD you might even be on the scale.

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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x98h_BmY8-M[/url]

More stuff coming out.

IMO as a community when you see stuff on social media especially if it is DMed to you got report it.

Seem like the school even had very good barriers to prevent this. So sad.

Everyday my kids get off the bus and come home I feel blessed.

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[quote=mredskins;1316986][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x98h_BmY8-M[/url]

More stuff coming out.

IMO as a community when you see stuff on social media especially if it is DMed to you got report it.

Seem like the school even had very good barriers to prevent this. So sad.

Everyday my kids get off the bus and come home I feel blessed.[/quote]

The Police confronted him before he got inside but he had body armor on and broke into a classroom.

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I have never done this before on any "go fund account" but I did donate.




[url]https://news.yahoo.com/gofundme-teacher-killed-texas-shatters-181127364.html[/url]


GoFundMe for teacher killed in Texas shatters goal with help from Michigan philanthropist

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[quote=mredskins;1316986][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x98h_BmY8-M[/url]

More stuff coming out.

IMO as a community when you see stuff on social media especially if it is DMed to you got report it.

Seem like the school even had very good barriers to prevent this. So sad.

Everyday my kids get off the bus and come home I feel blessed.[/quote]

Most of these shooters seem to have pretty huge red-flags when looking back in hindsight. I wish I had a magic answer, but hindsight is too late. Need to find a way to notice all of the flags before its too late.

Like you said, if someone mentions shooting people, tell someone. That can't be taken as "we didn't think he was serious" ever again.

Note - Not saying that was necessarily the case here, because she didn't even know him. But its still beyond unfortunate that she didn't tell someone.

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[quote=Chico23231;1316979]Drug addict mother and father not in his life, that’s the base recipe for mental anguish.[B] The Buffalo shooter, spent his Covid lockdowns teenage years getting radicalized in popular racist corners of the internet.[/B] In looking at mass shooters, a lot of these people are so young..17-18-19-20. Also the rise in crime in large cities have been driven by young offenders. The rise in car jackings…driven by offender 14,15,16.[/quote]

I need to save this. Progress!

I never thought Chico would be "Left" of Tucker Carlson but here we are.
[url]https://news.yahoo.com/tucker-carlson-says-racism-not-143833018.html[/url]

Btw the racist corner of the internet is Foxnews!
They've radicalized my aunts and uncles.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1316991]Most of these shooters seem to have pretty huge red-flags when looking back in hindsight. I wish I had a magic answer, but hindsight is too late. Need to find a way to notice all of the flags before its too late.

Like you said, if someone mentions shooting people, tell someone. That can't be taken as "we didn't think he was serious" ever again.

Note - Not saying that was necessarily the case here, because she didn't even know him. But its still beyond unfortunate that she didn't tell someone.[/quote]

Also keep in mind we really don't know how many shootings are stopped too. the whole system could have a 1% fail rate for all we know. Obviously even 1% is too much but very few things in this world are 100%

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[url]https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1529617687894274048[/url]

I'm trying to stay out of this forum for my sanity, but here we are. I know I know - how dare CNN exploit this tragedy by putting a camera on people who just had their heart ripped out. If I may, I'd like to take the focus off Anderson Cooper and put it on this dad. Put yourself in his shoes - imagine you go to the scene of a mass shooting at your daughter's school to help as a medic - and you approach a blood soaked little girl who tells you that her best friend died - and her best friend's name is your daughter's name. That's how he found out. Heartbreaking.

Imagine you're a conservative politician at a press conference and you get more upset about Beto being rude than you do about 20 little kids dying horrifically in a locked classroom with no way out. Imagine your solution is to put armed security in every school - great? What about heavily armed security with body armor for every shopping center? Every public gathering? How about we add weapons master to the already-long list of certs a teacher has to get? They're adequately paid right?

You don't need to respond, because I'm gonna ignore it. Just wanted to vent. I'll get over it - just in time for the next one next week.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1316977]The Onion knocked it out of the park yesterday and today. [url]https://www.theonion.com/[/url]

Normally the headline the day after a mass shooting in the U.S. is the location of the shooting and:

"'No way to prevent this,' says only nation where this regularly happens

They made every link on the page to a different version they ran with the different cities mass shootings have taken place. Then they had some great satirical articles towards the NRA.

[url]https://www.theonion.com/report-uvalde-gunman-had-accomplices-as-far-as-washing-1848976025[/url]

[url]https://www.theonion.com/nra-sets-1-000-killed-in-school-shooting-as-amount-it-w-1819573533[/url]

[url]https://www.theonion.com/nra-publishes-tips-for-staying-safe-while-committing-a-1830418497[/url]

It goes on and on. Bravo Onion Bravo[/quote]

[url]https://www.theonion.com/mitch-mcconnell-get-your-crying-done-now-because-we-r-1848977425[/url]

I laughed. Thanks.

[url]https://www.theonion.com/bad-time-for-greg-abbott-to-reveal-new-machine-gun-legs-1848976272[/url]

Seriously, the Onion is killing it with these blurbs. Murdering it you could say. Slaughtering my bad mood.

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Trying to rack my brains here but has there ever been a mass shooting at a private school?

If not what are they doing different or its just coincidence they have not been attacked ?

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[quote=mredskins;1316994]Also keep in mind we really don't know how many shootings are stopped too. the whole system could have a 1% fail rate for all we know. Obviously even 1% is too much but very few things in this world are 100%[/quote]

Not even the 1st threat to schools in this same area. Geez.

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-teens-arrested-uvalde-middle-school-school-shooting-plot[/url]

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[url]https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Houston-NRA-conference-bans-guns-17198195.php[/url]

Why are guns banned from the NRA conference tomorrow? Don't you want legally armed citizens around in case a nutjob tries to attack that too?

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[quote=mooby;1317002][url]https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Houston-NRA-conference-bans-guns-17198195.php[/url]

Why are guns banned from the NRA conference tomorrow? Don't you want legally armed citizens around in case a nutjob tries to attack that too?[/quote]

I think that's pretty standard at venues where Presidents and former Presidents will be in attendance.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1317003]I think that's pretty standard at venues where Presidents and former Presidents will be in attendance.[/quote]

Dumb, what does a former President have to fear in a large room full of his most loyal law abiding supporters - while also being surrounded by his personal Secret Service detail?

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[quote=mooby;1317004]Dumb, what does a former President have to fear in a large room full of his most loyal law abiding supporters - while also being surrounded by his personal Secret Service detail?[/quote]

touché.

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[quote=mooby;1317004]Dumb, what does a former President have to fear in a large room full of his most loyal law abiding supporters - while also being surrounded by his personal Secret Service detail?[/quote]

Like I said, it's Standard Operating Procedure. It has nothing to do with what a former President may or may not fear.

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The thing I don't get is how people try to explain away the reasons why mass shootings don't happen in other countries, but they do here.

Other countries don't have the same mental health difficulties as we do? Yes they do.

Other countries aren't as racially diverse as we are? Yes, many are.

Other countries don't have pockets of poor and disadvantaged citizens? Yes they do.

Other countries don't have kids who've been bullied or had challenging upbringings? Yes they do.

What's the difference? We allow access to guns, they don't. It's not that hard.

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[quote=Schneed10;1317015]The thing I don't get is how people try to explain away the reasons why mass shootings don't happen in other countries, but they do here.

Other countries don't have the same mental health difficulties as we do? Yes they do.

Other countries aren't as racially diverse as we are? Yes, many are.

Other countries don't have pockets of poor and disadvantaged citizens? Yes they do.

Other countries don't have kids who've been bullied or had challenging upbringings? Yes they do.

What's the difference? We allow access to guns, they don't. It's not that hard.[/quote]


Same game plan used to exploit American voters past and present

1. Fake experts
2. Logical fallacies
3. Impossible expectations
4. Cherry picking data
5. Conspiracy theories

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If people want to get rid of the 2nd amendment, there is a way for this to be completed.

[url]https://www.ncsl.org/research/about-state-legislatures/amending-the-u-s-constitution.aspx[/url]

1. Congress may submit a proposed constitutional amendment to the states, if the proposed amendment language is approved by a two-thirds vote of both houses; or

2. Congress must call a convention for proposing amendments upon application of the legislatures of two-thirds of the states (i.e., 34 of 50 states); and

3. Amendments proposed by Congress or convention become valid when ratified by the legislatures of, or conventions in, three-fourths of the states (i.e., 38 of 50 states).

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[quote=Giantone;1316987]The Police confronted him before he got inside but he had body armor on and broke into a classroom.[/quote]

No, the police did not confront him and they did not have security at the school. A lotta misinformation initially, but people just trying to get answers…so I get it.

But the police response was absolutely pathetic from what I read as “what happened” unfolds.

I think maybe raising the age for semi automatic rifles to 21 would be something to think about. I really think security for schools would be another, take the money from 100 billion the teachers Union stole in the Covid bill. 1-2 year mandatory sentence for an Illegal possessed firearm.

Those are my suggestions. But I’ll be damned if I’m gonna continue to hear all this horseshit whining from the left who run the most dangerous, violence ridden shit holes in this country who refuse to prosecute daily gun crimes in their own city.

Sit the fuck down.

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[quote=Chico23231;1317024]No, the police did not confront him and they did not have security at the school. A lotta misinformation initially, but people just trying to get answers…so I get it.

But the police response was absolutely pathetic from what I read as “what happened” unfolds.

I think maybe raising the age for semi automatic rifles to 21 would be something to think about. I really think security for schools would be another, take the money from 100 billion the teachers Union stole in the Covid bill. 1-2 year mandatory sentence for an Illegal possessed firearm.

Those are my suggestions. But I’ll be damned if I’m gonna continue to hear all this horseshit whining from the left who run the most dangerous, violence ridden shit holes in this country who refuse to prosecute daily gun crimes in their own city.

Sit the fuck down.[/quote]

You're just too fucking stupid for this conversation ,keep drinking!

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Now the republicans are running to save their own ass's instead of thinking about what the fuck happen!


[url]https://news.yahoo.com/changing-stories-texas-shooting-abbott-211229476.html[/url]


USA TODAY
Changing stories on Texas shooting: What Abbott, DPS said over 3 different press conferences.

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No surprise here , chico just echo's what the deity he worship tells to say and think.


[url]https://www.yahoo.com/gma/nra-convention-kicks-off-texas-090702886.html[/url]


The solutions offered at the NRA event spanned from increased funding for police departments, fortifying schools with armed security and increasing funding for mental health services.

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This man is a fucking boss:

[IMG]https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/05/hero-uvalde-police-229.jpg[/IMG]

[url]https://nypost.com/2022/05/27/cbp-officer-jacob-albarado-runs-into-uvalde-school-with-barbers-shotgun-to-save-daughter/[/url]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1317028]This man is a fucking boss:

[IMG]https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/05/hero-uvalde-police-229.jpg[/IMG]

[url]https://nypost.com/2022/05/27/cbp-officer-jacob-albarado-runs-into-uvalde-school-with-barbers-shotgun-to-save-daughter/[/url][/quote]

Hero is a better description.

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[quote=Schneed10;1317015]The thing I don't get is how people try to explain away the reasons why mass shootings don't happen in other countries, but they do here.

Other countries don't have the same mental health difficulties as we do? Yes they do.

Other countries aren't as racially diverse as we are? Yes, many are.

Other countries don't have pockets of poor and disadvantaged citizens? Yes they do.

Other countries don't have kids who've been bullied or had challenging upbringings? Yes they do.

What's the difference? We allow access to guns, they don't. It's not that hard.[/quote]

Yeah I’m beyond tired with the it’s a mental health issue take, like we’re the only country with mental health issues or something. Also tired of the we need more good guys with guns BS. We have a gun problem simple as that.

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[quote=MTK;1317037]Yeah I’m beyond tired with the it’s a mental health issue take, like we’re the only country with mental health issues or something. Also tired of the we need more good guys with guns BS. We have a gun problem simple as that.[/quote]

+1 ,as the GOP has shown there will be no new gun laws, none.

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[quote=Giantone;1317038]+1 ,as the GOP has shown there will be no new gun laws, none.[/quote]

Nope, nothing

And next time a school gets shot up it will be the same BS

These do nothing politicians just need to come out and say it, guns are more important to them than human lives, even children.

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[url]https://abcnews.go.com/US/12-major-us-cities-top-annual-homicide-records/story?id=81466453[/url]

It's just crazy': 12 major cities hit all-time homicide records

Nobody’s getting arrested anymore," Boyce said. "People are getting picked up for gun possession and they're just let out over and over again."


Imagine wanting more gun control but being in favor releasing violent offenders and not prosecuting folks caught with illegal guns.

Defund the police was a failure as well.

Wanting only gun control when a mass shooting occurs and ignoring the gun violence historical highs in the past two years…hypocritical Democrats.

Here catch up with the mass shooting archive, links the stories with info

[url]https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/mass-shooting[/url]

Also all I hear is bitching, no solutions.

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[quote=Chico23231;1317040][url]https://abcnews.go.com/US/12-major-us-cities-top-annual-homicide-records/story?id=81466453[/url]

It's just crazy': 12 major cities hit all-time homicide records

Nobody’s getting arrested anymore," Boyce said. "People are getting picked up for gun possession and they're just let out over and over again."


Imagine wanting more gun control but being in favor releasing violent offenders and not prosecuting folks caught with illegal guns.

Defund the police was a failure as well.

Wanting only gun control when a mass shooting occurs and ignoring the gun violence historical highs in the past two years…hypocritical Democrats.

Here catch up with the mass shooting archive, links the stories with info

[url]https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/mass-shooting[/url]

Also all I hear is bitching, no solutions.[/quote]

chico stop with all your BS you're as bad as the rest of the GOP assholes. There was no defund the Police situation in this shooting or in Buffalo, comparing these incidents to a rise in crime in the cities is fucking stupid. To blame the Dems because the GOP won't pass gun laws shows how ignorant and studed you are.

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[quote=Chico23231;1317040][url]https://abcnews.go.com/US/12-major-us-cities-top-annual-homicide-records/story?id=81466453[/url]

It's just crazy': 12 major cities hit all-time homicide records

Nobody’s getting arrested anymore," Boyce said. "People are getting picked up for gun possession and they're just let out over and over again."


Imagine wanting more gun control but being in favor releasing violent offenders and not prosecuting folks caught with illegal guns.

Defund the police was a failure as well.

Wanting only gun control when a mass shooting occurs and ignoring the gun violence historical highs in the past two years…hypocritical Democrats.

Here catch up with the mass shooting archive, links the stories with info

[url]https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/mass-shooting[/url]

Also all I hear is bitching, no solutions.[/quote]

chico stop with all your BS you're as bad as the rest of the GOP assholes. There was no defund the Police situation in this shooting or in Buffalo, comparing these incidents to a rise in crime in the cities is fucking stupid. To blame the Dems because the GOP won't pass gun laws shows how ignorant and stupid you are.

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[quote=Chico23231;1317024]No, the police did not confront him and they did not have security at the school. A lotta misinformation initially, but people just trying to get answers…so I get it.

But the police response was absolutely pathetic from what I read as “what happened” unfolds.

I think maybe raising the age for semi automatic rifles to 21 would be something to think about. I really think security for schools would be another, take the money from 100 billion the teachers Union stole in the Covid bill. 1-2 year mandatory sentence for an Illegal possessed firearm.

Those are my suggestions. But I’ll be damned if I’m gonna continue to hear all this horseshit whining from the left who run the most dangerous, violence ridden shit holes in this country who refuse to prosecute daily gun crimes in their own city.

Sit the fuck down.[/quote]

[URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/v0lwlq/jason_selvig_spoke_directly_to_wayne_lapierre_at/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3"]We just need to think a little harder... and pray a little harder.[/URL] Amen - this is fucking classic

G1 I admire you - you're like an attack dog every time Chico posts you're on it.

But I don't entirely disagree with Chico for once on this. I agree - raising the age to own a semi-automatic rifle to 21 might help. If you're 18 and you want one - great, join the military. Let a military qualified weapons master determine if you are of sound mind and maturity - if you pass boot camp you can buy a semi-auto rifle outright. If not, gotta wait until you're 21. But don't fret - if your parents own one and want to take you to go get some range practice in or whatever they are more than welcome to do so. You just can't own one outright. But the goal is to stop teenagers having a miserable life experience from going out and buying an AR-15 almost immediately after they turn 18. It's not gonna solve every mass shooting - Vegas would've still happened amongst others - but it would prevent some of them. And aren't we at least in agreement some of these can be prevented?

I also agree with Chico on illegal gun possession - if you are caught possessing a stolen gun or a gun with the serial numbers filed off - that's grounds for a 6mo-1 year minimum sentence. No evidence to back me up on this but I feel like most of the people buying stolen guns or stealing them outright have bad intentions.

Defund the police - well it's only natural Chico latches on to a theory only a small segment of liberals are vehemently promoting and then acts like all of us wholeheartedly endorse it. I'm not against taking money out of the police budget if there was a legit better cause that money needs to go to. But just taking serious money out of the budget for no reason other than cops=bad - you gotta do better than that imo.

The one thing I'd really like to know is how much the illegal gun trade contributes to gun violence in high-crime areas. How many legal gun owners are getting their shit stolen and then sold somewhere else with the serial filed off? How many murder weapons - or even guns used in a shooting and recovered later - were stolen? How many were straw purchases? How many were bought legally? How many did a kid in Chicago drive half an hour into Indiana to buy? Yes mass shootings don't negate all of the other gun violence that happens in America - but how are guns so easily accessible in the black market or via loophole?

Dan Crenshaw didn't even wait a week - he said red flag laws are off the table because there should already be laws on the books that hold criminals accountable (if they are violating the law in some manner before they go off and kill a bunch of people). I guess if you're an insane kid who said a bunch of terrible shit online - but never got criminally charged for any of it - well you can still legally buy a gun the day of your 18th birthday and then murder a bunch of kids. There's your loophole, young psychopaths who have no criminal record.

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Past 10 years per year:
# of abortions per year >700,000 (assuming 1% viability rate) > 7,000 children lives lost

# of late term abortions (after 20 weeks) - *stats are less easy to find so only 2015* >17000 - 1% elective = 1,700

# of children killed/injured per year by gun violence - <1000


my point is not to negate the need for better mental health and gun laws, but much like mooby says how pro-lifers care more for the unborn than the living, I don't understand why those kids killed before birth are so much less discounted than children who have been born.

Both of these things are blights on the fabric of the US, and they are destroying our nation every day.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1317045]Past 10 years per year:
# of abortions per year >700,000 (assuming 1% viability rate) > 7,000 children lives lost

# of late term abortions (after 20 weeks) - *stats are less easy to find so only 2015* >17000 - 1% elective = 1,700

# of children killed/injured per year by gun violence - <1000


my point is not to negate the need for better mental health and gun laws, but much like mooby says how pro-lifers care more for the unborn than the living, I don't understand why those kids killed before birth are so much less discounted than children who have been born.

Both of these things are blights on the fabric of the US, and they are destroying our nation every day.[/quote]

You honestly don't understand the difference between an abortion, a medical procedure and a nut job with a assault gun walking into a school and blowing away kids and Teachers?

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I'm all for discussing how to keep people that have previously committed gun crimes and/or are evil and/or have mental health issues from getting guns. We also need to find, charge, and try people that make terroristic threats. Posting about shooting up a school is way worse to me than lots of things people go to jail for in this country. Those people who are found guilty either need to be sent to prison or a mandatory mental health facility.

I'm OK with raising the age to own guns to 21 as well. We have rights, but we also don't just give every right to every person at any age. There is a certain level of growth and maturity required for lots of things we do in America.

What I'm not OK with on any level, is banning any law abiding citizen of age from owning any type weapon they want. That is not right and un-American. So what if I don't "need" a semi-automatic gun. If I want one, that's my prerogative as an American under the constitution.