[QUOTE=12thMan;969643]Guys, stop drinking the fukcing Kool Aid. Andrew Luck is on his way to the playoffs. ROY. The dude is ****ing balling right now.[/QUOTE]

What does playoffs have to do with ROY? Cam newton last year.

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[quote=redskins5044;969641]Seattle still has some tough games left, have to fly across country and play Buffalo always a tough trip. Also play the 49ers and Rams.

By no means is it over to get a WC spot, but have to win tomorrow to stay a game behind them.[/quote]

I think a loss today a) was expected, and b) would have been huge. While Seattle has tough games, all the division games are at Seattle where they are a different team.

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[quote=12thMan;969643]Guys, stop drinking the fukcing Kool Aid. Andrew Luck is on his way to the playoffs. ROY. The dude is ****ing balling right now.[/quote]

What kool-aid? Hasn't Griffin won rookie of the week like 5 times, rookie of the month 2 out 3 times? Doesn't Luck have nearly a 1:1 TD:INT rating, compared to Griffins's 4:1, or Wilson's 2:1?
Throw in Doug Martin and some of his games.

It doesn't take Koolaid to think ROY is possible for Griffin.

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[quote=redskins5044;969648]What does playoffs have to do with ROY? Cam newton last year.[/quote]

If the Colts go to the playoffs, Luck will win ROY. Write it down.

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Gotta love the Detroit Failcats.
Makes a nice easy work day tomorrow.

[QUOTE=12thMan;969653]If the Colts go to the playoffs, Luck will win ROY. Write it down.[/QUOTE]

Ok I will, if RG3 stats are better than Lucks at season end it will be a good debate. Andy Dalton should have been ROY then last year.

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[quote=12thMan;969653]If the Colts go to the playoffs, Luck will win ROY. Write it down.[/quote]

What if Seattle goes, wouldn't Wilson be qualified, again, with half the int's that Luck has thrown.

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ugh wtf denver cant get help from friggin anywhere today

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;969656]What if Seattle goes, wouldn't Wilson be qualified, again, with half the int's that Luck has thrown.[/quote]

In my opinion, Wilson is just as deserving as Andrew Luck or RGIII, but the football gods will see to it that Luck or Robert receive the honors. Luck is putting up monster numbers and has a team left for dead 8 months ago headed to the playoffs.

Andrew Luck has had FIVE game winning drives. FIVE!

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[quote=12thMan;969653]If the Colts go to the playoffs, Luck will win ROY. Write it down.[/quote]

If the Redskins go to the playoffs I wouldnt care if Billy Bob Schnartzelnuts wins ROY.

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[quote=12thMan;969658]In my opinion, Wilson is just as deserving as Andrew Luck or RGIII, but the football gods will see to it that Luck or Robert receive the honors. Luck is putting up monster numbers and has a team left for dead 8 months ago headed to the playoffs.

Andrew Luck has had FIVE game winning drives. FIVE![/quote]

Wilson has a few as well, and Luck's INT numbers are going to be hard to get past in my opinion. It will be an interesting conversation at the end of the year.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;969659]If the Redskins go to the playoffs I wouldnt care if Billy Bob Schnartzelnuts wins ROY.[/quote]

I know that's right.

We're not going to the playoffs, we evaluating who is going to be on the team for years to come. That is straight from the horses mouth.

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[quote=redskins5044;969662]We're not going to the playoffs, we evaluating who is going to be on the team for years to come. That is straight from the horses mouth.[/quote]

What the fukc are you talking about? That's crazy talk. And I don't know what horse you've been listening to.

That would be Shanny. Lol

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[quote=12thMan;969658]In my opinion, Wilson is just as deserving as Andrew Luck or RGIII, but the football gods will see to it that Luck or Robert receive the honors. Luck is putting up monster numbers and has a team left for dead 8 months ago headed to the playoffs.

Andrew Luck has had FIVE game winning drives. FIVE![/quote]

hmmm that is pretty badass.

its going be a tight race...

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I would love to see Philly treat Dallas like a bunch of trick ass hoes tonight.

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[quote=Chico23231;969666]I would love to see Philly treat Dallas like a bunch of trick ass hoes tonight.[/quote]

lmao damn skippy nothing better than watching all the cowboys gear and flags disappear in richmond after they lose here

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Seattle winning today doesn't help the skins playoff chances...they were supposed to lose.

and RG3 will still be rookie of the year. He hasn't played this weekend yet. Lucks very good. RG3s Great

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[quote=Chico23231;969627]Luck behind both RG3 and Wilson in my opinion. Lucks great, but he's not making things happen like RG3 and Wilson.[/quote]

Oh really? Did you see today's game? The game they came back and beat GB. Luck's is as good as RGIII despite the INT's and both are slightly better than Wilson. Luck is the only rookie QB to have won 8 games, I would love to see RGIII win it but luck is just as deserving. Maybe this will be the year they have co-ROY.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;969644]Good point. Luck is working with a lot less talent than we are. Remember the Colts were dead in the toilet last year and now are in playoff position.[/quote]

True but before last year they were regularly posting 10 win seasons. QB play is the biggest factor in any teams success however I think that this team has more talent then people give them credit for.

Bottom line Luck and Wilson have been playing like rookies with moments of brilliance at the right times. RG3 on the other hand has been playing like a top 10 QB week in and week out. I'd argue that Rookie of the Year is an individual award, not a team award.

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In just about any other year Luck would be the clear winner. I still think RG3 will take ROY.

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Luck is having a great year, don't get me wrong, but the fact he's probably gonna finish with over 4,000 yards doesnt cancel out his 1:1 ratio of tds to ints (16&16) and his 8 fumbles and that he will probably finish with less than 300 yards rushing. Bob on the other hand should finish with around 3,500 yards passing, is currently rocking a 4:1 TD to int ratio, has a full 10% higher passing accuracy, only 2 lost fumbles, and will probably finish with close to 900 yards rushing. RG3 has just been so much more consistent week in and week out than any other rookie QB I've ever seen.
I'm honestly thinking both teams make the playoffs or atleast be .500 now so it'll be interesting to see what happens. All in all it's shaping to be one of the absolute best QB draft classes.

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Flacco is killing the Ravens. They better be looking out for another QB because he certainly isn't getting it done.

Luck has also faced easier team's. BTW joe flacco sucks

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[quote=skinsfaninok;969674]Luck has also faced easier team's. BTW joe flacco sucks[/quote]

He is one of the streakiest Qbs, but I agree Flacco can't handle the pressure partly put on himself by himself.

I think tannehill won't be any good. Russell Wilson is for real, BUT HES not luck or Griffin. Wilson is more like Josh Freeman and luck and Griffin are like ARod and Peyton.

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[quote=Chico23231;969627]Luck behind both RG3 and Wilson in my opinion. Lucks great, but he's not making things happen like RG3 and Wilson.[/quote]

He's 8-4 ...... on a team that was dead last... without him

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I ****ing hate Seattle ... no matter what they've ALWAYS been in our way last few post season runs/chances

Seattle will be screwed when they lose those corners which could b soon

Pittsburgh will always be good as long as Tomlin is there

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I still don't understand why teams with good RBs go away from the run so much. The Ravens have force themselves into a pass first team, even though they have Ray Rice. It's ridiculous. They started the game with 4 or 5 straight passes. Now they may have handed the f*cking Pats the second seed in the AFC. Ugh.

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[quote=Ruhskins;969683]I still don't understand why teams with good RBs go away from the run so much. The Ravens have force themselves into a pass first team, even though they have Ray Rice. It's ridiculous. They started the game with 4 or 5 straight passes. Now they may have handed the f*cking Pats the second seed in the AFC. Ugh.[/quote]


That's why Cam Cameron will be fired at the end of the year. Dude is a horrible offensive coordinator. I remember the other year they played the Jaguars at home (either SNF or MNF game), and Cam ran Rice a whopping 8 times while Flacco threw the ball for 50 times. They ended up losing. They made poor Jim Zorn the scape goat due to Cam Cameron's shitty offense calling. Most Raven fans want him gone ASAP. Which is why I shook my head when a Skins fan up here talked about having Cam Cameron as a possible head coach. **** that.


They have their own "Fire Cam" thread...lol

[url=http://russellstreetreport.com/forum/showthread.php?100302-Fire-cam]Baltimore Ravens Message Board & Fan Forum - Voted Baltimore's Best | Fire cam[/url]

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;969673]Flacco is killing the Ravens. They better be looking out for another QB because he certainly isn't getting it done.[/QUOTE]

I have written Raven game off but today's game and how batch played I do think we have a chance there too. their offense could stall if we control their runs

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LOL. I'm still laughing at the Jets for signing Sanchez to that huge contract after last year. WTF was Tannebum doing? Why did the owner even approve that shit knowing his QB sucked.


Now, they are stuck with Sanchez next year because he has 8.3 million in guaranteed money.



Interesting note on Tebow:

[B]Tebow takes a seat: As expected, Tebow was inactive. He was medically cleared, sources said, but he sat based on a coach's decision. [/B]
[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/18368/rapid-reaction-jets-7-cardinals-6]Rapid Reaction: Jets 7, Cardinals 6 - Jets Blog - ESPN New York[/url]

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[quote=NC_Skins;969686]LOL. I'm still laughing at the Jets for signing Sanchez to that huge contract after last year. WTF was Tannebum doing? Why did the owner even approve that shit knowing his QB sucked.

Now, they are stuck with Sanchez next year because he has 8.3 million in guaranteed money.

Interesting note on Tebow:

[B]Tebow takes a seat: As expected, Tebow was inactive. He was medically cleared, sources said, but he sat based on a coach's decision. [/B]
[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/18368/rapid-reaction-jets-7-cardinals-6]Rapid Reaction: Jets 7, Cardinals 6 - Jets Blog - ESPN New York[/url][/quote]

Tannenbaum is the Jets' own Vinny.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;969669]Oh really? Did you see today's game? The game they came back and beat GB. Luck's is as good as RGIII despite the INT's and both are slightly better than Wilson. Luck is the only rookie QB to have won 8 games, I would love to see RGIII win it but luck is just as deserving. Maybe this will be the year they have co-ROY.[/quote]

Detroit Defense or Chicago Defense? Luck did it against a piss poor defense/team and still threw 3 picks.

Wilson on the road against the Bears...yep he is amazing.

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Luck will likely be 1 and done in the playoffs. Wheareas Wilson and the Seahawks will probably win a game.

Regardless, as many have pointed out, this is turning out to be a heck of a QB class (Luck, RG3, Wilson, and Tannehill).

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[quote=Chico23231;969688]Detroit Defense or Chicago Defense? Luck did it against a piss poor defense/team and still threw 3 picks.

Wilson on the road against the Bears...yep he is amazing.[/quote]

For that matter so did kapernick. Luck is damn good, i would of been happy with him or RGIII. Luck has had many come back wins this year.

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This could go down the top QB class of all time when all is said and done.