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[quote=GMScud;878844]You knew they were going to come out and win this game in Wittman's first effort against a 3 win Charlotte. [B]Que 10 game losing streak now...[/B][/quote]

Yep lol. We still can't win on the road, so our 4 out of 5 road game schedule coming up won't help.

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I love what Whittman says in his press conferences and his attitude of how to coach this team, but I wonder if it's because i'm a dissatisfied fan I want to see someone who gets in people's faces.

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Jeremy is Linning right now at the Phone Booth.

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How can anybody support this team? I really don't understand it. They're worse than a D-league, and that's putting it nicely. I've never seen a bigger embarrassment in my life, then this team. They make the 2009 Redskins look like Super Bowl contenders.

We have a lot of bad teams in D.C, but I've never been more ashamed in my life in any of them, than I am right now with the Wizards.

Then Ted Leonsis wonders why the Post talks down on the team and why tickets are sold for less than a $1.

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I don't know why everyone is dissatisfied with all the loosing at this point. Right now we're better served to get a top 5 pick in this upcoming draft then we are to compete for a playoff spot that would likely be a first round exit if they somehow made it that far. Or worse yet we finish 9th or 10th in the East and get crummy draft position in possibly the deepest draft in NBA history missing out on an all-star prospect.

If they're still playing like this in 2 years then fine, make sure heads roll but complaining about the rebuilding effort at this point is premature to say the least.

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As long as Ernie is here it's not going to matter. He's a horrible GM and will continue to run this team into the ground because Leonsis is too stupid.

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[url=http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201202/allen-iverson-has-no-answer-financial-woes]Allen Iverson Has No Answer For Financial Woes | ThePostGame[/url]


I knew Allen Iverson was a complete dumbass, but how you blow 154 million is mind boggling. This is worse than Antoine Walker. I don't feel sorry for these asshats one bit. They had it all and blew it on jewelry, leeches, and a fast life style. Good riddance you jerkoff.


I've always despised Allen Iverson. Guy was a complete assclown, and a huge reason why they never won a championship in Philly. He didn't give it his all in practice which is a true sign of a competitor and champion. Jordan never half assed it in practice, but Allen sure did.

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More on Iverson.

[url=http://articles.philly.com/2012-02-12/sports/31052452_1_pat-croce-poster-child-76ers]Bill Lyon: Iverson on the rocks - Philly.com[/url]


[quote]Problem was, it was A.I. and "who that?" Almost every night, single-handedly, he would win or lose a game. That's not the way basketball is intended to be played, even if Larry Brown said it was so, too, the right way. Forty points are impressive. Taking 30 shots to get them is not.[/quote]



[quote]"He redefined high maintenance," Croce said.

He was hardly the poster child for working on conditioning. He was always half a step ahead, and they warned him the day would come when the half step would go away, never to return. They should have saved their breath; they were whistling into the wind. And now, now that bill has come due.[/quote]

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I was at the NY Knicks game the week before last. Even though the entire crowd was rooting for the Knicks and Lin, John Wall is really starting to become a stud. Whatever they do in the future, they gotta keep Wall. He must run a 4.3 40. He might be the fast guy in the league.

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[quote=skinsfan69;886466]I was at the NY Knicks game the week before last. Even though the entire crowd was rooting for the Knicks and Lin, John Wall is really starting to become a stud. Whatever they do in the future, they gotta keep Wall. He must run a 4.3 40. He might be the fast guy in the league.[/quote]

Interestingly enough, I think he plays his best when he slows himself down a bit. When he's going full throttle, he's sometimes out of control and his teammates can't keep up with him. Successful teams must know how to run half-court sets- I think the light bulb may be starting to come on. The second half of his sophomore season should show vast improvement (much like Rose's).

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[url=http://wusa9.com/sports/article/193621/439/Wiz-Kid-Toughts-On-The-Bucks-Loss]Wizards: Randy Wittman Benches JaVale McGee | wusa9.com[/url]

i f-ing love it, it's been long overdue. it has been obvious that there needs to be a culture change in the wizards locker room for some time now. i'm glad whitman had the balls to bench them and come out after the game and lay into them some more. time to step up or get the f outta town. crawford and seraphin will both start tonight and mcgee and young will sit on the bench. hopefully this ship can get righted before wall decides he is out of here, hopefully that already hasn't happened. who can honestly blame him for wanting to get out of this mess though.

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[quote=mlmdub130;890436][url=http://wusa9.com/sports/article/193621/439/Wiz-Kid-Toughts-On-The-Bucks-Loss]Wizards: Randy Wittman Benches JaVale McGee | wusa9.com[/url]

i f-ing love it, it's been long overdue. it has been obvious that there needs to be a culture change in the wizards locker room for some time now. i'm glad whitman had the balls to bench them and come out after the game and lay into them some more. time to step up or get the f outta town. crawford and seraphin will both start tonight and mcgee and young will sit on the bench. hopefully this ship can get righted before wall decides he is out of here, hopefully that already hasn't happened. who can honestly blame him for wanting to get out of this mess though.[/quote]

Eh. The article mentions they will probably play McGee more tonight against Dwight Howard, but otherwise I like the idea of McGee and Young on the bench. They are just too selfish on the court for me to like the idea of them grabbing all the minutes. We're losing anyways, we might as well be losing while giving guys who deserve pt the opportunity to grow as players.

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[quote=mooby;890441]Eh. The article mentions they will probably play McGee more tonight against Dwight Howard, but otherwise I like the idea of McGee and Young on the bench. They are just too selfish on the court for me to like the idea of them grabbing all the minutes. We're losing anyways, we might as well be losing while giving guys who deserve pt the opportunity to grow as players.[/quote]

Personally I think McGee has some screws loose. I'll give him props though, he should've won the dunk contest last year.

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[quote=mooby;890441]Eh. The article mentions they will probably play McGee more tonight against Dwight Howard, but otherwise I like the idea of McGee and Young on the bench. They are just too selfish on the court for me to like the idea of them grabbing all the minutes. We're losing anyways, we might as well be losing while giving guys who deserve pt the opportunity to grow as players.[/quote]

i like the idea of showing these guys they don't run the team. i think in hindsight getting rid of e. jordan did more harm than good, as well as getting rid of butler and jamieson. having flip here was just a bad idea, he is a coach that can lead a team over the hump, not bring them out of the gutter. last year we had guys refusing to go back into a game and then starting the next night. a hard nose approach has been long overdue down at the verizon center.

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wiz looked good tonight, they seem like they have responded to whittman, and are playing harder and smarter. wall had a great game in the loss to the magic, and crawford had a great game tonight. wall hit vesely with a long pass and vesely threw down a nice dunk. he still can't shoot for shit though. hopefully the wiz can keep it going. blache also came back tonight, shot awful but had some boards and assits.

vesely's dunk
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55fjt3N0nFM]Vesely Takes Flight - Cavs @ Wizards - YouTube[/ame]

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Nick Young is done in Washington. Like to see us move him and get something before he goes

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[quote=Chico23231;891677]Nick Young is done in Washington. Like to see us move him and get something before he goes[/quote]

i think him testing the market before the season started showed no one really wants him. but it would be nice to trick someone in to giving us a dozen practice balls or something

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If I were a Wizards fan I would want McGee traded too.

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Wall and Booker are the only untouchables, imo.

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Jan Vesely is not a lottery player.

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[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/sportsnetWashington/search/v/52755795/nate-robinson-out-jumps-andray-blatche-3-6.htm]Nate Robinson out jumps Andray Blatche-3/6[/url]

SS, there is your boy Andrea ballin hard

I'm so lucky Okc is really good, I'd be crazy bored

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[quote=Chico23231;893318][url=http://www.csnwashington.com/sportsnetWashington/search/v/52755795/nate-robinson-out-jumps-andray-blatche-3-6.htm]Nate Robinson out jumps Andray Blatche-3/6[/url]

SS, there is your boy Andrea ballin hard[/quote]

and then crying about it afterwards

[quote]As for that 6-foot-11 guy, he doesn’t like being booed.

“It’s tough. You’re home and people that’s supposed to have your back don’t have your back,” a dejected Blatche said after the game, via Wizards Insider. “Instead of encouraging you to get better, they push you down and hope you do worse. It’s not only hurting me it’s hurting my teammates.”
[/quote]

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/nate-robinson-out-rebounds-andray-blatche/2012/03/06/gIQAzbhruR_blog.html]Nate Robinson out-rebounds Andray Blatche - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post[/url]

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Not sure how this game's going to end, but I absolutely didn't think the Wiz kids had it in them to fight back after being down 21 against the Lakers. Trevor Booker is a MAN.

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[quote=itvnetop;893349]Not sure how this game's going to end, but I absolutely didn't think the Wiz kids had it in them to fight back after being down 21 against the Lakers. Trevor Booker is a MAN.[/quote]

Ive been listening to it all night and havent watched a peep. The excitement in the building sounds great incredible.

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[quote=Chico23231;893354]Ive been listening to it all night and havent watched a peep. The excitement in the building sounds great incredible.[/quote]

The first half sounded like the Staples Center... they even interviewed a Laker "superfan" with a Kobe mask.

It was awesome seeing Booker and Seraphin bodying up the LA big men... those guys have all the effort lacking in McGee and Blatche.

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[quote=itvnetop;893364]The first half sounded like the Staples Center... they even interviewed a Laker "superfan" with a Kobe mask.

[B]It was awesome seeing Booker and Seraphin bodying up the LA big men... those guys have all the effort lacking in McGee and Blatche.[/B][/quote]

I will second that. I also loved seeing Blatche and McGee riding the pine in crunch time. I know this and the Thunder game will probably be our highlights of the season, but damn is it refreshing to see our young players (who actually want it) stepping up, playing hard unselfish basketball and it actually paying off with a win, against a good team no less.

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[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/video-nick-young-goes-over-backboard-wide-open-130155630.html]Video: Nick Young goes over the backboard on a wide-open layup ‘attempt’ | Ball Don't Lie - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

lol

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[quote=NC_Skins;893824][url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/video-nick-young-goes-over-backboard-wide-open-130155630.html]Video: Nick Young goes over the backboard on a wide-open layup ‘attempt’ | Ball Don't Lie - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

lol[/quote]

Good lord, Nick Young is such an Epic Fail its really amazing.

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Yahoo! Sports reporting McGee to Denver, Nick Young to Clippers, Nene, Brian Cook, and a pick to Wizards

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[quote=SmootSmack;899560]Yahoo! [B]Sports reporting McGee to Denver,[/B] Nick Young to Clippers, Nene, Brian Cook, and a pick to Wizards[/quote]

Nice, he can go embarrass himself in another teams jersey now

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That Nene contract is hideous... I hope this is a potential trade piece in the off-season. At least he's a smart player, unlike JaVale. Glad to remove McGee, however- dude wasn't going to get it in DC.

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[QUOTE=itvnetop;899616]That Nene contract is hideous... I hope this is a potential trade piece in the off-season. At least he's a smart player, unlike JaVale. Glad to remove McGee, however- dude wasn't going to get it in DC.[/QUOTE]



Nene's contract is hideous? Have you seen Rashard Lewis's contract??

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Nene is the physical presence at pf the wiz need. not bad imo.

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Nene will most likely be playing C but ok

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;899640]Nene's contract is hideous? Have you seen Rashard Lewis's contract??[/quote]

Lewis' contract was only taken to rid themselves from the even worse contract EG gave Gilbert (a year longer than Lewis'). They can essentially buy out Lewis' contract this summer.

Nene's almost 30, so I hope we haven't picked up a player on his decline (even if he hasn't played as many minutes as others his age). He's getting paid a whole lot for the next four seasons. You don't think Denver had buyer's remorse for that extension? They're happy as could be with this trade...

Amnesty Blatche, buy out Lewis. Salvage something next summer.

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Another upside is that our tank effort may have been solidified with these trades. We traded our only outside (streaky) shooter (Mason doesn't count) for nothing (2nd round pick in 2015?!). Nene doesn't play tonight against the Hornets... huge tank game.

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[QUOTE=itvnetop;899695]Lewis' contract was only taken to rid themselves from the even worse contract EG gave Gilbert (a year longer than Lewis'). They can essentially buy out Lewis' contract this summer.



Nene's almost 30, so I hope we haven't picked up a player on his decline (even if he hasn't played as many minutes as others his age). He's getting paid a whole lot for the next four seasons. You don't think Denver had buyer's remorse for that extension? They're happy as could be with this trade...



Amnesty Blatche, buy out Lewis. Salvage something next summer.[/QUOTE]



I doubt that. The Wiz won this trade. They got rid of two knuckleheads that weren't gonna resign anyways and get a legitimate C to pair with Wall. Now you go into the off season with: Wall/Crawford/Singleton/Booker/Nene/Vesely/Mack as your core sign a backup C and draft a Kidd-Gilchrist, Thomas Robinson, or Anthony Davis and your talking playoffs.

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really pissed if we didnt off Javale and Wall for Monte Ellis. Ellis wouldnt been nice here

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;899714]I doubt that. The Wiz won this trade. They got rid of two knuckleheads that weren't gonna resign anyways and get a legitimate C to pair with Wall. Now you go into the off season with: Wall/Crawford/Singleton/Booker/Nene/Vesely/Mack as your core sign a backup C and draft a Kidd-Gilchrist, Thomas Robinson, or Anthony Davis and your talking playoffs.[/quote]

These things were going to happen anyway- we weren't going to resign McGee or Young, so they'd have been gone by the end of the year. We're still going to draft in the top 5 or 6. The only point of contention is how "legitimate" Nene is for the next four years. Not talking about the rest of this season or even all of next year... but will he be worth 13/season in years 3 and 4. For a guy who doesn't do a whole lot of rebounding at his position, I'm not sure. Although I do like his defense and overall smarts, I'm just not sold on paying him that much until he's 34. I'd also like to see what Kevin Seraphin could do with more minutes.

Tell me- why would Denver extend Nene in December for a total contract of 67 million... and then happily trade him just three months later? If he was really worth that for five years, you don't trade him... especially that quickly after you extend him. I highly doubt JaVale McGee's potential was the overriding factor for Denver- getting rid of this bloated contract was top priority.

In two years, Wall + '12 lotto pick provides an attractive destination for a possible max player. Picking up Nene's contract doesn't help if we'd like to sign him [I]and[/I] re-up Wall.

Having said all that, I'll be happy if proven totally wrong these next few seasons. I'm just not sold on Ernie Grunfeld's moves, as a whole. Last few drafts have been pretty solid, however (minus Vesely).