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[quote=SmootSmack;785670]Champ's staying in Denver[/quote]

But I can still buy his house right?

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;785657]Dude. Youre not going to pick up a second round pick just by swapping someones 20th pick with our 10th. Maybe a 4th or at best a 3rd[/quote]

depends who's there.. we traded our 21st pick for a 34 and 48 from ATL in 2008

I know that the draft value chart isn't concrete but that was a swap of 800 value for one of 980.. but the Falcs did have an extra pick they acquired elsewhere to give up

your example of 20 to 10.. 20 is 850 points, 10 is 1300.. let's just say it's an even trade at 450 points, you're looking at pick 45.. the first pick of round 4 is worth like 112 points, I'd say give or take 200 to figure out what might happen

of course there's been the whole next year's pick of higher value thing too

It really just depends who's on the board and what teams are looking at them. I could see 20 and a HIGH 3rd but I wouldn't take a 4th at all and even with the 3rd I'd be looking at another high round pick or at least swap with them.

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[quote=Paintrain;785658]Warriorzpath, now THIS is a strategy I am strongly against.. Picking up players that don't fit your scheme, which we've done many times before, is crazy..[/quote]

Exactly. That's been our problem big time. Pick up Arch, expect him to play heavy coverage, etc. Jason Taylor and the list goes on.. we pick people who are good at a position and expect it to translate to a totally different scheme.

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[quote=tryfuhl;785676]depends who's there.. we traded our 21st pick for a 34 and 48 from ATL in 2008

I know that the draft value chart isn't concrete but that was a swap of 800 value for one of 980.. but the Falcs did have an extra pick they acquired elsewhere to give up

your example of 20 to 10.. 20 is 850 points, 10 is 1300.. let's just say it's an even trade at 450 points, you're looking at pick 45.. the first pick of round 4 is worth like 112 points, I'd say give or take 200 to figure out what might happen

of course there's been the whole next year's pick of higher value thing too

It really just depends who's on the board and what teams are looking at them. I could see 20 and a HIGH 3rd but I wouldn't take a 4th at all and even with the 3rd I'd be looking at another high round pick or at least swap with them.[/quote]

Wisdom.

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[url=http://twitter.com/johnelway/status/40185867255418881]Twitter / John Elway: We are thrilled to announc ...[/url]

good for Champ, great player

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[quote=tryfuhl;785673] You want them to work towards getting better after starting low? [/quote]

Actually yeah - low profile, high potential. You want underappreciated and underrated players in free agency. To me, that means that the perception of the player is lower than what his talent level and/or potential is.

And of course I want talented players, just not the ones that you have to overpay for. High-profile = overpaid

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[quote=Lotus;785683]Wisdom.[/quote]

Just when I think I know alot about football... Lol. Nice tryfuhl

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What the hell is going on!?!?! All these aging veterans are signing extensions or getting tagged (I know the tag may not stick in the new CBA). But what are Skins fans going to do if we don't have any aging, expensive, veteran players to sign that don't fit our scheme?!?!? I would have crack-like withdrawals. THIS IS NOT HOW THE SKINS OPERATE AN OFFSEASON!!!!!!!!!

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Speculation is flying out of Denver that Tebow isnt "their" type of QB they want

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I agree with taking a shot at Rice .... hands down if we have a shot at him effing sign him. I think its foolish not to.... and this I just heard Shockey is close to signing with.the Eagles... strictly off the record info But ... we'll see

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Jags expected to TAG TE M.Lewis.

Ronde Barber signs 1 year extension with TB

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Woodley signs franchise tag with Steelers

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[quote=SkinzWin;785693]What the hell is going on!?!?! All these aging veterans are signing extensions or getting tagged (I know the tag may not stick in the new CBA). But what are Skins fans going to do if we don't have any aging, expensive, veteran players to sign that don't fit our scheme?!?!? I would have crack-like withdrawals. THIS IS NOT HOW THE SKINS OPERATE AN OFFSEASON!!!!!!!!![/quote]

This is the most right on post i've ever read here. What in the hell will the Skins Front Office do when there are no aging, broken down vets to sign to a mega contract. I can't think of a single year under Snyder that they didnt do exactly that....should be interesting!

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[quote=SmootSmack;785790]Woodley signs franchise tag with Steelers[/quote]

I knew they wouldn't let him walk.

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I can't believe Champ got a 4-year deal. I highly doubt he'll be able to play it out to the end.

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[quote=Buster;785801]I can't believe Champ got a 4-year deal. I highly doubt he'll be able to play it out to the end.[/quote]

He's 32 and has never had a Major Injury, I think he can.

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Groin tear in 2008, missed 7 games,nearly half the season.

He's just slowing down and his production is on a steady decline...that's more concerning than injury risk.

He hasn't had more than 3 INTs since 2006 and his tackles/pass deflections are both falling...and I don't think it's because opposing QBs are avoiding him more in his old age than they did in his prime when he was getting 8 or 10 INTs a year.

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[quote=Buster;785829]Groin tear in 2008, missed 7 games,nearly half the season.

He's just slowing down and his production is on a steady decline...that's more concerning than injury risk.

[B]He hasn't had more than 3 INTs since 2006[/B] and his tackles/pass deflections are both falling...and I don't think it's because opposing QBs are avoiding him more in his old age than they did in his prime when he was getting 8 or 10 INTs a year.[/quote]

Well that could be because teams dont throw his way much, Asomugha doesn't get many picks either. Champ surely is slowing down though.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;785712]Speculation is flying out of Denver that Tebow isnt "their" type of QB they want[/quote]

Thats a semi-old rumor, however I would give up our first pick for him right now.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;785835]Thats a semi-old rumor, however I would give up our first pick for him right now.[/quote]

I'm a huge Tebow guy myself

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[quote=skinsfaninok;785836]I'm a huge Tebow guy myself[/quote]
Oh really? [IMG]http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/7462/gayx.gif[/IMG]

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[quote=Buster;785843]Oh really? [IMG]http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/7462/gayx.gif[/IMG][/quote]

Lol damn u buster

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[quote=skinsfaninok;785872][URL="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81e6fe3d/article/man-in-the-middle-dolphins-soliais-agent-talking-extension?module=HP_headlines"]NFL.com news: Man in the middle: Dolphins, Soliai's agent talking extension[/URL]




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JasonLaCanfora Jason La Canfora
Dolphins place franchise tag on DT Paul Soliai.
1 minute ago

Doesn't sound like he will be available...

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;786121]JasonLaCanfora Jason La Canfora
Dolphins place franchise tag on DT Paul Soliai.
1 minute ago

Doesn't sound like he will be available...[/quote]

Unless with the new CBA all of this goes away.

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[quote=Ruhskins;786124]Unless with the new CBA all of this goes away.[/quote]

I am imagining that the whole reason these teams were fast and furious with the franchise tags was because there is an assumption on the owners part that a new CBA will have some provision protecting clubs that used tags or RF Tenders. Even if they were to go away, some sort of right of first refusal for this year would be in place (again, I imagine)

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Wimbley tagged in Oakland

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[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/25/mike-shanahan-says-plenty-about-mcnabb-without-saying-anything/"]Mike Shanahan says plenty about McNabb without saying anything | ProFootballTalk[/URL]

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81e7b6ad/article/shanahan-mcnabbs-agent-clear-the-air-but-qb-still-wants-out?module=HP_headlines]NFL.com news: Shanahan, McNabb's agent clear the air, but QB still wants out[/url]

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[quote=warriorzpath;785691]Actually yeah - low profile, high potential. You want underappreciated and underrated players in free agency. To me, that means that the perception of the player is lower than what his talent level and/or potential is.

And of course I want talented players, just not the ones that you have to overpay for. High-profile = overpaid[/quote]

Well you obviously don't want to do what we did in 2000 but there would be no problem adding some high profile if he fit a need well. We'll really need good talent evaluation to find this crop of diamonds in the rough that you describe; hopefully can.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;785835]Thats a semi-old rumor, however I would give up our first pick for him right now.[/quote]
If by pick you mean interception I'm on board.

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Vikings offer Rice a long term deal, from what I heard he is still going to test the market


In fact now there is a link.

[url=http://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/42044522401775616]Twitter / Adam Schefter: Drew Rosenhaus said his cl ...[/url]

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/27/patriots-expected-to-cut-nick-kaczur/]Patriots expected to cut Nick Kaczur | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;786485][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/27/patriots-expected-to-cut-nick-kaczur/]Patriots expected to cut Nick Kaczur | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

Geez, wasn't Hicks and Brown in similiar situations ? We took a gamble on whether they could bounce back- they didn't. Different injuries but Jansen wasnt the same after a year off. Mike Williams may still come back- I think we need ABLE bodies signed for low vet salaries and that would be solid for the team (fingers crossed).

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Guys , what's the word on the kid Rob Henson. He was a beast in pre-season for us then got hurt. Is he still with the Skins?? I remember him tearing it up at the linebacker position.

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Bears cut Tommie Harris

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;786492]Guys , what's the word on the kid Rob Henson. He was a beast in pre-season for us then got hurt. Is he still with the Skins?? I remember him tearing it up at the linebacker position.[/quote]

He's still on the team

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Tommie Harris just released from Chicago.
[url=http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2011/02/tommie_harris_says_release_is.html]Tommie Harris says release is "bittersweet" - Inside the Bears[/url]

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Marcus Spears also getting cut

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[quote=skinsfaninok;786722]Marcus Spears also getting cut[/quote]

27-year old 3-4 DE? Unless he is having health issues, we should take a look at him.

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He's a underachiever ive heard hes real lazy (spears)