Re: Give me your best Terry Contract
 

[quote=MTK;1375473]Let him play out his contract this year and franchise him next year. He would be dumb to turn down a competitive offer if it’s around the $30m/year range.[/quote]

Agree, this is the main reason Terry has limited leverage. Peters would naturally be looking at this as the ceiling:

This Year, 2025: $19.9M, per existing contract
Next Year, 2026: franchise tag, $28M per OverTheCap
Year After, 2027: franchise tag again, must be no less than 20% increase, $33.7M

Total of $81.6M over three years. After that, Terry will be 32 and his chances at a big payday are over.

Keep in mind, his cap number this year is $25.5M but he's due $19.9M this year, the other $5.6M was prorated signing bonus he received three years ago when he signed.

So with that as the context I have a hard time seeing why Peters would be compelled to go over $30M per season. His break glass in case of emergency plan would be $27M over three years.

If Terry's agent can't read that at the poker table then Terry needs a new agent. Give him the $28M or $29M per year with lion's share guaranteed, worth the $1 or $2M extra to sing kumbaya during Jayden's rookie deal. Otherwise, do your job as the executive and protect the team's financial picture, and force Terry to play on two consecutive tags.

Re: Give me your best Terry Contract
 

[quote=MTK;1375473]Let him play out his contract this year and franchise him next year. He would be dumb to turn down a competitive offer if it’s around the $30m/year range.[/quote]

Does team even think he’s worth the franchise value?

Re: Give me your best Terry Contract
 

[quote=88Commanders00;1375475]Does team even think he’s worth the franchise value?[/quote]

I'd be shocked if they didn't, Peters was in SF when they gave Aiyuk a Brinks truck. They know they don't have to go higher than franchise tag numbers.

Re: Give me your best Terry Contract
 

Folks need to chill, big time. If the player isn't frustrated by talks are you even doing your job as the executive?

Dan Snyder used to have the reputation in the 2000s as the guy you could go to if you wanted to get paid in free agency. Didn't work out so well. Peters should be forcing negotiations to be challenging, otherwise he's too soft.

Re: Give me your best Terry Contract
 

[quote=Schneed10;1375477]Folks need to chill, big time. If the player isn't frustrated by talks are you even doing your job as the executive?

Dan Snyder used to have the reputation in the 2000s as the guy you could go to if you wanted to get paid in free agency. Didn't work out so well. Peters should be forcing negotiations to be challenging, otherwise he's too soft.[/quote]


I concur with this. Terry has been paid well but this is a business. You pay based on what you expect going forward, not for what they've done in the past.

Re: Give me your best Terry Contract
 

[quote=Schneed10;1375476] Peters was in SF when they gave Aiyuk a Brinks truck.[/quote]

He left long before Aiyuk got paid.

Re: Give me your best Terry Contract
 

[quote=Schneed10;1375477]Folks need to chill, big time. If the player isn't frustrated by talks are you even doing your job as the executive?

Dan Snyder used to have the reputation in the 2000s as the guy you could go to if you wanted to get paid in free agency. Didn't work out so well. Peters should be forcing negotiations to be challenging, otherwise he's too soft.[/quote]

On a scale of 1-5 fucks given I’m at a 1 with this situation.

He’s not going to sit out games, he needs to have another big season if he wants another big payday. I could see the team not budging until maybe mid season.

Re: Give me your best Terry Contract
 

[quote=davy;1375481]He left long before Aiyuk got paid.[/quote]

Ah you're right. Ok well go back further, Trent, Bosa, these guys hold out or hold in for a while but they ended up signing. Hard to tell how much of that was Peters vs Lynch, but we know that Peters is known for being a tough negotiator here in Washington, Fowler has said that much. That's his job.

Re: Give me your best Terry Contract
 

[quote=MTK;1375482]On a scale of 1-5 fucks given I’m at a 1 with this situation.

He’s not going to sit out games, he needs to have another big season if he wants another big payday. I could see the team not budging until maybe mid season.[/quote]

Very plausible. Their leverage comes from knowing Terry has to risk injury by playing this year to reach the open market, at which point they could always tag him anyway. There's no reason for them to come off their position.

Terry being a good guy and a fan favorite does not make it a good business decision to pay him like DK Metcalf.

Re: Give me your best Terry Contract
 

Our WR room without Terry is buttcheeks. It will definitely effect the team if he actually sits out games.

Re: Give me your best Terry Contract
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1375487]Our WR room without Terry is buttcheeks. It will definitely effect the team if he actually sits out games.[/quote]

I love Terry and I'm in the camp who wants to see Terry get paid (big money for the first 2 years), but JD is so good to the point where he can make WRs look good. Look at Zaccheaus, he is a journeyman WR and yet he had a positive impact on our offense last year.

Re: Give me your best Terry Contract
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1375487]Our WR room without Terry is buttcheeks. It will definitely effect the team if he actually sits out games.[/quote]

OK but think about that. He's due 19.9M this year, so over 17 games that's $1.1M per game.

Each game he sits out he loses out on $1.1M in real money due to him this year.

Then, as he goes into next year, assuming he plays enough games this year for his contract to toll, has he done enough to earn the big payday he's looking for?

Remember Leveon Bell tried that move, he sat out leading into a contract year and it backfired on him bigtime as teams wondered if he still had it when he came back.

Chris Jones recently tried this tactic, he came back after one missed game. It's not a practical move. Terry's stuck, he's got to play.

Re: Give me your best Terry Contract
 

[quote=Schneed10;1375489]OK but think about that. He's due 19.9M this year, so over 17 games that's $1.1M per game.

Each game he sits out he loses out on $1.1M in real money due to him this year.

Then, as he goes into next year, assuming he plays enough games this year for his contract to toll, has he done enough to earn the big payday he's looking for?

Remember Leveon Bell tried that move, he sat out leading into a contract year and it backfired on him bigtime as teams wondered if he still had it when he came back.

Chris Jones recently tried this tactic, he came back after one missed game. It's not a practical move. Terry's stuck, he's got to play.[/quote]

I hope you're right. Just a frustrating situation. Shit is finally going right on all fronts and then this pops up. Still another month or so to figure it out. The team has more leverage for sure. I'd rather Terry be signed and extended than "forced" to play unhappy on a 1-year deal. But I understand they can't just give him 33 million or whatever either. Would love to know what has been our maximum offer vs. what is minimum accepted amount is.

Re: Give me your best Terry Contract
 

At today's scrimmage Terry and Peters were talking cordially. Quinn said Terry has been involved in team meetings. These aren't the actions of a player who is sitting out or planning to hurt the team. Truthfully no one knows what is actually happening and Peters knows they need Terry.

Clearly both parties are waiting to make sure they have the other's absolute best offer. I personally expect Terry to be on our team and happy for 3 more years.

edit just saw a video of it, maybe cordial isn't the right word. Terry standing there in a hoodie in the middle of August hands shovedein the pockets and AP with his hands on hips like he's lecturing.
Makes me wonder if Terry should even be talking directly to AP without a contract extension in place.

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Re: Give me your best Terry Contract
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1375491]I hope you're right. Just a frustrating situation. Shit is finally going right on all fronts and then this pops up. Still another month or so to figure it out. The team has more leverage for sure. I'd rather Terry be signed and extended than "forced" to play unhappy on a 1-year deal. But I understand they can't just give him 33 million or whatever either. Would love to know what has been our maximum offer vs. what is minimum accepted amount is.[/quote]

All due respect, if you think these situations don’t come up for good organizations, or that they won’t come up for us going forward, then you’re not in very good touch with the realities of NFL business. This is entirely normal.