Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 

[quote=mredskins;1312236]this why you don't go around publicly telling everyone you need a QB. You have no negation power.

There is always one more screw you in all our trades, like the 2nd rounder in the RG3 trade.[/quote]

When Heinicke is your starter, everyone already knows you need a QB.

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1312243]Eagles gave up on Wentz and they want to give up on Hurts. I mean they stole a 1st rounder from the Colts, but I don't think they had consensus on their QB (see Pederson getting fired).[/quote]

Wentz sucks. There is no defending this at all. He is worth a late round pick. 5th or 6th rounder at best.

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 

[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1312245]Through in the cost too. They were a quarter away from making the playoffs with him and it only took two third round picks?

Not excited by the move. Obviously a talent upgrade. His paycheck is questionable but not extreme. IDK very indifferent overall just a basic whelmed.[/quote]

Yeah, but I rather have a bridge QB I could get rid of a year from now, than committing two or three years to Winston/Mariota/Trubisky.

Also, there's going to be competition for those guys, and they will all get overpaid.

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1312240]I don't think this is terrible. This lets you wait until the draft and see if a QB is available at #11, you can trade down (my ideal situation), or take BPA.

I'd rather watch Wentz than Heinecke.[/quote]

I'd rather Wentz than Heinicke too. But that's low bar imo. Don't like the move. The draft will decide if I absolutely despise it.

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1312239]If Reich really wanted him he'd probably be there. Also the Eagles totally gave up on him too. They choose Hurts over him...lol. What does that say?[/quote]

I'm well aware of the red flags. I'm not super psyched but I also don't hate the move. They had to do something to upgrade over Heinicke.

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1312247]Wentz sucks. There is no defending this at all. He is worth a late round pick. 5th or 6th rounder at best.[/quote]

Options are few at QB now. It's either this or paying Winston/Trubisky/Mariota guaranteed money for 2-3 years.

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 

[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1312237]I'm surprise to be finding stuff like this:

@CommandersNFL_
Carson Wentz dropped 28 total touchdowns last year on two bad ankles, in a run-heavy offense, while throwing to mostly trash. I don’t care what the Colts do. All they do is trade picks and never win.[/QUOTE]


All of that is pretty legit. His WRs were no name dudes (Pittman is ok)

He will have better weapons in Washington by far.

We don’t have JT but AG is pretty fucking good


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Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 

[quote=MTK;1312246]When Heinicke is your starter, everyone already knows you need a QB.[/quote]

Understood

But front office was like we are hitting a home run at QB this year look out! Then when we fanned on Wilson and Rogers; teams like Indy know we better do something after running our mouths.

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1312239]If Reich really wanted him he'd probably be there. Also the Eagles totally gave up on him too. They choose Hurts over him...lol. What does that say?[/quote]

I think I heard their owner , Irsay, was not happy with him, so maybe Reich doesn't have much say about it, or at least not willing to go to the owner and defend him

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1312249]I'd rather Wentz than Heinicke too. But that's low bar imo. Don't like the move. The draft will decide if I absolutely despise it.[/quote]

Same boat.

The only thing i will say about the draft is after these big qb splashes after the combine; i think alot of teams were not impressed with this years QB class.

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 

[quote=mredskins;1312253]Understood

But front office was like we are hitting a home run at QB this year look out! Then when we fanned on Wilson and Rogers; teams like Indy know we better do something after running our mouths.[/quote]

Who cares what the FO says. Pete Carroll said last week that they weren't trading Russ. Fans need to stop acting like 5 year olds and stop believing or hanging on every word that teams/coaches/front offices say.

I'm sure if Ron wasn't saying anything and/or praising Heinecke people would be mad too.

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1312248]Yeah, but I rather have a bridge QB I could get rid of a year from now, than committing two or three years to Winston/Mariota/Trubisky.

Also, there's going to be competition for those guys, and they will all get overpaid.[/quote]

That is a fair point

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1312257]Who cares what the FO says. Pete Carroll said last week that they weren't trading Russ. Fans need to stop acting like 5 year olds and stop believing or hanging on every word that teams/coaches/front offices say.

I'm sure if Ron wasn't saying anything and/or praising Heinecke people would be mad too.[/quote]

i was speaking in regards to trade posturing with other teams.

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 

[quote=SunnySide;1312242]We have a legit GM in Martin Mayhew. We have a solid completely filled out front office for the first time in forever.

click on our org chart below ... weve never had that.

[url]https://www.commanders.com/team/front-office-roster/[/url]

Im not stoked for Wentz either ... but its 2 3rds and we can get out after this year for 12M dead cap.

Aside from drafting Jamin Davis (who its too early to call definitively) .. Ive liked the moves weve made for the most part.[/quote]

Sorry not buying it. Just like we were letting everyone know we wanted a QB, the Colts were letting everyone know what they thought of Wentz. He was getting cut. You just don't give up high draft picks for someone that is about to get cut.

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1312251]Options are few at QB now. It's either this or paying Winston/Trubisky/Mariota guaranteed money for 2-3 years.[/quote]

I would pay Trubisky or Mariota and keep my picks. Wentz is no better than either of them.