Re: QB or BPA for our #1 Draft Pick - 2020
 

Bengals woulda drafted Haskins last year if they wanted him. Haskins play hasn’t made them feel any regret for passing on him

Re: QB or BPA for our #1 Draft Pick - 2020
 

[quote=Chico23231;1237281]Bengals woulda drafted Haskins last year if they wanted him. Haskins play hasn’t made them feel any regret for passing on him[/quote]

First, i was just throwing Haskins and Trent out there as options.

Maybe the Bengals had a 2nd or 3rd round grade on Haskins and WOULD have drafted him if he'd been there with one of those picks. You cant say they don't like Haskins at all simply because they didn't REACH even higher than Snyder to get him.

As far as Haskins' play, no, it hasn't been good, but he wasn't expected to be good right away. He had limited experience in college and was not viewed as NFL-ready. What we are seeing now is exactly what we thought we would see. I would imagine that his play so far is in line with the draft grades most teams had on him.

So basically, you can't say Haskins doesn't have ANY value in a trade. Josh Rosen was awful last year, had much less "upside" than Haskins, and the Dolphins still gave up a 2nd round pick for him. Its preposterous to think there aren't coaches out there who don't think they could mold Haskins into a top QB.

Ultimately, whatever we do with Haskins, it should not impact our desire to trade up to #1 to get Burrow. Find out what the Bengals want and then do it. That's my opinion anyways.

Re: QB or BPA for our #1 Draft Pick - 2020
 

[quote=Chico23231;1237281]Bengals woulda drafted Haskins last year if they wanted him. Haskins play hasn’t made them feel any regret for passing on him[/quote]

I think they really liked the Alabama tackle they drafted. (I did too.) Plus, I'm not sure they were quite ready to give up on Dalton at that time.

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[quote=Number44;1237284]I think they really liked the Alabama tackle they drafted. (I did too.) Plus, I'm not sure they were quite ready to give up on Dalton at that time.[/quote]

Word on the street Bengals really liked 1 QB and the Giants took him.

Only if our new HC 100% wants a new QB and doesn't see Haskins as the proper scheme fit should we move on from Haskins.

I really think Haskins deserves a second year and I rather only draft Chase Young in the top 3 OR move back in the first to get more picks. I like the Georgia tackle, but this NFL draft crop is full of great Tackle prospects.

Re: QB or BPA for our #1 Draft Pick - 2020
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1237283]First, i was just throwing Haskins and Trent out there as options.

Maybe the Bengals had a 2nd or 3rd round grade on Haskins and WOULD have drafted him if he'd been there with one of those picks. [B]You cant say they don't like Haskins at all[/B] simply because they didn't REACH even higher than Snyder to get him.

As far as Haskins' play, no, it hasn't been good, but he wasn't expected to be good right away. He had limited experience in college and was not viewed as NFL-ready. What we are seeing now is exactly what we thought we would see. I would imagine that his play so far is in line with the draft grades most teams had on him.

[B]So basically, you can't say Haskins doesn't have ANY value in a trade[/B]. Josh Rosen was awful last year, had much less "upside" than Haskins, and the Dolphins still gave up a 2nd round pick for him. Its preposterous to think there aren't coaches out there who don't think they could mold Haskins into a top QB.

Ultimately, whatever we do with Haskins, it should not impact our desire to trade up to #1 to get Burrow. Find out what the Bengals want and then do it. That's my opinion anyways.[/quote]

I actually can but I never did...so carry on with more trade scenarios. How about Trent Williams, Deez Nuts, for....

Re: QB or BPA for our #1 Draft Pick - 2020
 

[quote=Chico23231;1237286]I actually can but I never did...so carry on with more trade scenarios. How about Trent Williams, Deez Nuts, for....[/quote]

Jeez. I should have just said "Trade something to the Bengals for the #1 overall pick to draft Burrow." As i already said, I was including names as examples. Realistically, Trent will likely be traded long before the draft anyways.

But I don't see Haskins plus the #2 pick to draft Chase Young + something else as being a bad deal for the #1 pick.

Ultimately, my point is that I believe Burrow to be the kind of QB that doesn't come around very often. The draft is such a lottery and he looks like more of a sure thing than any QB in recent memory. With the #2 overall pick, we would have stronger trade ammunition than just about anyone else.

No matter how well Haskins plays the rest of the year, I think we need to do whatever it takes to get Burrow.

Hopefully, the Bengals stumble into a win or two so we end up with the #1 overall pick on our own. :)

Re: QB or BPA for our #1 Draft Pick - 2020
 

Donald Penn had the highest grade of any LT this week. We have not talked about him enough, dude has been damn good

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Forget about next year for one second .. if you were the head coach and needed one win the rest of year .. would you play Haskins or keenum?

Re: QB or BPA for our #1 Draft Pick - 2020
 

[quote=rocnrik;1237289]Forget about next year for one second .. if you were the head coach and needed one win the rest of year .. would you play Haskins or keenum?[/quote]

Are you saying the coach wants a win? I think we would be more likely to get a win with Case then with Haskins

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I’m just trying to figure are we really this bad or are we tanking.. I really thought firing Gruden was the answer .. I’m not sure now at all .. manusky would have made more sense to let go. I can’t believe this team has fallen this far with no end in sight .

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1237288]Donald Penn had the highest grade of any LT this week. We have not talked about him enough, dude has been damn good

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]How about overall in the season so far?

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65.0 Pass block grade which is solid for a guy who didn't even play much in 2 years

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Junkies called DH "Byron Leftwich or Jason Campbell"

LOL How do they have a show still?

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It is the worst show on a station of bad shows,

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I hope the 1-15 season forces Snyder to make a major change: Fire BRUCE or leave him as VP Prez but no GM duties. Then have hie a hard-charging, NFL-worthy HC who makes Snyder give him TOTAL CONTROL. I wonder if Snyder is desperate and/or smart enough to such a move. Until now he’s tried a wide range of HC, but insisted on having his lackey GM make personnel decisions. Can he give up control to bring in a PHD to change a 20 years of a total “amateur hour”.


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