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the only move better then this, is to name sheaffer the GM. i like this move, alot

Re: Redskins Promote Kevin O'Connell To Offensive Coordinator; Matt Cavanaugh Moves To Senior Offensive Assistant
 

[quote=dmek25;1218245]the only move better then this, is to name sheaffer the GM. i like this move, alot[/quote]

Schaffer knows nothing about evaluating talent. If anyone became GM, it would be Kyle Smith.

Schaffer's only logical room for movement with the team would be to be Team President if Bruce moved on to another role.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1218249][B][I]Schaffer knows nothing about evaluating talent.[/I][/B] If anyone became GM, it would be Kyle Smith.

Schaffer's only logical room for movement with the team would be to be Team President if Bruce moved on to another role.[/quote]

That's actually not true from what I've read in the recent past. Schaffer actually is more of a football guy than people know. Obviously he excels in contract negotiations, but I wouldn't say he knows nothing about evaluating talent.

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[quote=metalskins;1218256]That's actually not true from what I've read in the recent past. Schaffer actually is more of a football guy than people know. Obviously he excels in contract negotiations, but I wouldn't say he knows nothing about evaluating talent.[/quote]

Perhaps that was an exaggeration to say he knows absolutely nothing, but he's certainly not as strong as Kyle, Alex, or Doug. Doug doesn't seem to want an expanded role (and he shouldn't, given how much of an idiot he comes off as when he talks to the media about anything other than football talent) and no ones knocking on the door for Alex or Schaffer as their GM. Kyle is supposed to be incredibly well respected as a rising talent. Similar to O'Connell, he's someone we can't let get out the door.

Re: Redskins Promote Kevin O'Connell To Offensive Coordinator; Matt Cavanaugh Moves To Senior Offensive Assistant
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1218257]Perhaps that was an exaggeration to say he knows absolutely nothing, but he's certainly not as strong as Kyle, Alex, or Doug. Doug doesn't seem to want an expanded role (and he shouldn't, given how much of an idiot he comes off as when he talks to the media about anything other than football talent) and no ones knocking on the door for Alex or Schaffer as their GM. Kyle is supposed to be incredibly well respected as a rising talent. Similar to O'Connell, he's someone we can't let get out the door.[/quote]

And Kyle ran the 2018 draft, not Bruce Allen nor Doug Williams.

Re: Redskins Promote Kevin O'Connell To Offensive Coordinator; Matt Cavanaugh Moves To Senior Offensive Assistant
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1218257]Perhaps that was an exaggeration to say he knows absolutely nothing, but he's certainly not as strong as Kyle, Alex, or Doug. Doug doesn't seem to want an expanded role (and he shouldn't, given how much of an idiot he comes off as when he talks to the media about anything other than football talent) [B][I]and no ones knocking on the door for Alex or Schaffer as their GM.[/I][/B] Kyle is supposed to be incredibly well respected as a rising talent. Similar to O'Connell, he's someone we can't let get out the door.[/quote]

That's also not true. There had been some reports (Can't remember if it was Keim or one of the other beat reporters) that mentioned that Schaffer was getting some looks for GM with other teams. He's a very valuable part of the front office.

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If Mr. Stuck on Stupid Jay Gruden is going to keep the duties of calling the plays what does promoting O'Connell to OC help? He's just another meaningless offensive assistant with an irrelevant title.

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I don't think Jay will keep calling plays, Bruce tossing out another lie as usual

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[QUOTE=MTK;1218546]I don't think Jay will keep calling plays, Bruce tossing out another lie as usual[/QUOTE]Agree, why make the move if that's the case?

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1218548]Agree, why make the move if that's the case?

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Well there’s more the OC does like installing the weekly game plans



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Re: Redskins Promote Kevin O'Connell To Offensive Coordinator; Matt Cavanaugh Moves To Senior Offensive Assistant
 

[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1218537]If Mr. Stuck on Stupid Jay Gruden is going to keep the duties of calling the plays what does promoting O'Connell to OC help? He's just another meaningless offensive assistant with an irrelevant title.[/quote]

I don't think any stock can be placed in Bruce's statement on play calling.

Cooley has gone in depth about the opaque public position on play calling when McVay was first promoted to OC.

He said the lack of clarity was to protect McVay from media and public pressure and scrutiny.

The same thing may very well be going on presently.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1218549]Well there’s more the OC does like installing the weekly game plans



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Yeah but I don't see Jay calling plays with this promotion, maybe I'm wrong but I'd say KO is the guy

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1218555]Yeah but I don't see Jay calling plays with this promotion, maybe I'm wrong but I'd say KO is the guy

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I hope so. It would be great opportunity for O'Connell to show us what he can do.

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[quote=metalskins;1218287]That's also not true. There had been some reports (Can't remember if it was Keim or one of the other beat reporters) that mentioned that Schaffer was getting some looks for GM with other teams. He's a very valuable part of the front office.[/quote]

I've seen plenty of reports to that effect for Kyle Smith, but nothing for Schaffer. If other teams are interested in Schaffer for GM, then we're going to have to lose one of them at some point and I'd choose Smith in a heartbeat.

An alternative is that we do as i suggested and promote BOTH of them: Schaffer to Team President and Smith to GM. Win/Win.

Re: Redskins Promote Kevin O'Connell To Offensive Coordinator; Matt Cavanaugh Moves To Senior Offensive Assistant
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1218555]Yeah but I don't see Jay calling plays with this promotion, maybe I'm wrong but I'd say KO is the guy

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Bruce explicitly said Jay would continue to call plays (At least for now).

As I've pointed out before, Jay is in a lose-lose position if he lets KO call plays. Jays only shot as maintaining his own job security is to keep calling plays and hope the team wins.