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[quote=Brian Orakpo;558669]As a slot WR Randle El would be very solid even though he would probably be the highest paid slot WR in NFL history. I still think Curtis can do more things at WR then Randle El. If we could cut him and not have to take the cap hit id do it in a heartbeat.[/quote]

Id like Randle El to produce where ever he ends up on the field. But, I think El lacks the ability to go up, get the ball and come down with it. He's not physical enough to play as a number two but with all the back stepping and jukeing he likes to do on punts returns he'd be perfect to run those shorter routes as a number 3 slot receiver.

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[quote=Giantone;558497]QB) Eagles/Giants/Campbell/Romo

RB) Giants,/Skins-Eagles/cowboys

OL)Giants /Eagle/Cowboys/Skins

WR) Skins/Cowboys/Giants/Eagles

TE) Cowboys/Giants/Skin/Eagles

Punter) Giants/Cowboys/Skins/Eagles

PK) Giants/Eagles/Skins/Cowboys

DL) Giants/Cowboys/Eagles/Skins

LB)Cowboys,Eagles/Giants/Skins

DB) Skins,Eagles/Giants/Cowboys

Safety)Eagles/Skins/Cowboys/Giants

Coaching) Reid/Coughlin/Phillips/Zorn[/quote]

You think the Skins have the worst D-line in the division (umm, Haynesworth?) and the Giants in Kevin Boss have a better TE situation than we do?? That's the funniest thing I've seen all day. Cooley is 3x the TE Kevin Boss is 8 days a week.

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[quote=WaldSkins;558670]Id like Randle El to produce where ever he ends up on the field. But, I think El lacks the ability to go up, get the ball and come down with it. He's not physical enough to play as a number two but with all the back stepping and jukeing he likes to do on punts returns he'd be perfect to run those shorter routes as a number 3 slot receiver.[/quote]

I would love for Moss and Thomas to start with Kelly as the slot WR. It probably wont happen but I can dream. :laughing-

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[quote=Brian Orakpo;558674]I would love for Moss and Thomas to start with Kelly as the slot WR. It probably wont happen but I can dream. :laughing-[/quote]
Thomas has the skills to be that guy.
Now whether he does it or not is another thing.

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Kelly is more in the mold of a red zone threat.

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[quote=pick-ups;558676]Thomas has the skills to be that guy.
Now whether he does it or not is another thing.

Kelly is more in the mold of a red zone threat.[/quote]

I agree. I liked Devin Thomas coming out of the draft and was shocked he slipped as far as he did. Hopefully he can step up and take the #2 spot.

Kelly im more nervous about because of all his injuries. Everyone says he looks good in practice and hopefully this year that will translate into the games.

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Great post orakpo!

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[quote=GMScud;558673]You think the Skins have the worst D-line in the division (umm, Haynesworth?) and the Giants in Kevin Boss have a better TE situation than we do?? That's the funniest thing I've seen all day. Cooley is 3x the TE Kevin Boss is 8 days a week.[/quote]


Ok, I'll go over it one more time ,my opinions on these picks is based on last year since this year hasn't been played yet.As for Haynsworth ...who knows if he'll be any good in the NFC East or not ...he'll be going against much better O lines.As for Cooley ...I already said he's a great TE but Boss did play better last year less fumbles and better blocking.

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[quote=Giantone;558684]Ok, I'll go over it one more time ,my opinions on these picks is based on last year since this year hasn't been played yet.As for Haynsworth ...who knows if he'll be any good in the NFC East or not ...he'll be going against much better O lines.As for Cooley ...I already said he's a great TE but Boss did play better last year less fumbles and better blocking.[/quote]

But, as I think it's been said, these rankings are about how they are constituted now, not at the end of last season. The whole point of the discussion is to get thoughts of current rosters. Last season is done.

Was Boss in the ProBowl? Has he been? Not that ProBowl is everything, but I think Cooley is easily recognized as better than Boss.

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[quote=Giantone;558582]I disagree , your wideouts were fine last year till your O line ...well got desimated and couldn't protect the QB.That affected eveything,the run game then the passing game.[/quote]Well, Moss was great for a month, and Randle El had a nice season, but really, the rest of the team struggled the entire year at the wideout position. There was no silver lining in it, they were just bad, and bad all year.

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[quote=Paintrain;558588]Philly has the same problem we had going into last year. All of their WR are of similar size and skill set. Jackson, Curtis and Baskett are all burners, not chain movers. That's where they used Westbrook and Celek. Now Maclin, who is going to have to learn an NFL passing tree, is supposed to come in and be a top contributor? I don't really see it.

Dallas has the MOST questions because they lost the best WR in the division from last year. Hate him or not, 67 catches, 1,000+ yards and 10 TD doesn't go un-missed. That's pretty significant to try to replace. R. Williams had one good year, one, and that was with Mike Martz calling the plays. Crayton and Austin don't scare anyone, at all. They made no additions to their WR corp and are expecting Williams to jump by 50+ receptions to be a #1? Shaky at best.

I think it's clear. Moss will produce like always, Randle El will produce similar to last year and if Thomas doubles his production (not a stretch based on all offseason reports) then we should have the class of the division at WR this year.[/quote]I would say Curtis has been a chain mover his entire career, going back to St. Louis. Avant and Baskett both enjoyed the seasons we wish Thomas and Kelly would have had last year. And Jackson, well, you and I are both high on him. The Eagles' only question is Jeremy Maclin, who comes in as the 4th or 5th WR anyway.

I agree with you that Roy Williams isn't going to up and become a number one receiver, but I'd take him over Santana as my No. 2 option in an explosive offense. I do think that Miles Austin has the stuff to replace Owens in the lineup. I think he has number one potential. Patrick Crayton is definately not a question mark, as he's been one of the more productive third receivers in this league for years now. The Cowboys are thinner at this position, but certainly not bad (even given the ridiculous trade for Williams).

And the Giants, well, I don't think they have question marks as much as they just aren't very good at the position.

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[quote=GTripp0012;558747]I would say Curtis has been a chain mover his entire career, going back to St. Louis. Avant and Baskett both enjoyed the seasons we wish Thomas and Kelly would have had last year. And Jackson, well, you and I are both high on him. The Eagles' only question is Jeremy Maclin, who comes in as the 4th or 5th WR anyway.

I agree with you that Roy Williams isn't going to up and become a number one receiver, but I'd take him over Santana as my No. 2 option in an explosive offense. I do think that Miles Austin has the stuff to replace Owens in the lineup. I think he has number one potential. Patrick Crayton is definately not a question mark, as he's been one of the more productive third receivers in this league for years now. The Cowboys are thinner at this position, but certainly not bad (even given the ridiculous trade for Williams).

And the Giants, well, I don't think they have question marks as much as they just aren't very good at the position.[/quote]
You may be right on Curtis, I guess I just think of him more as a vertical WR than a possession guy. If Thomas and Kelly had the same production Avant and Baskett had last year we would have been very happy (and won 11 games) but I expect Thomas to exceed both of them this year while they will probably remain stagnant at those numbers.

You are much higher on Austin than I am. I think he's got good tools but he seems to be lacking a certain something that is preventing him from being 'that guy'. I think Williams is a decent #2 miscast as an expected #1. I'd still take Moss for the big play opportunities he presents. To me Crayton is what he is, a #3 who will flash occasional big games but isn't really a reliable weapon. He's like James Thrash-Cowboy style.

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[quote=elamin24;558683]Great post orakpo![/quote]

Thanks dude. :food-smil

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[quote=pick-ups;558648][B]Eli talent wise is the worst QB in this division and he did ride the the Giants defense to a SB[/B] win and I cannot knock them as a team for that.

The Pats win that meeting 9 out of 10 times and Eli tried as hard as possible to give that game to the Pats,so I cannot be told that Eli was the best player that day.

Anyways that is all in the past and I can't wait to see Eli(heading into his first season of his career w/o Buress or any sort of a true #1 WR).

Welcome to McNabbs world and I promise you that Eli doesn't possess what McNabb does to carry his team through out parts of the season.[/quote]

Talent wise you're probably right. But don't under estimate what Eli did. He stepped his game up when it mattered most. Plus he drove his team down the field for a SB win. I was very impressed with his performace in 07. McNabb threw 3 INTS in his SB. I think McNabb is better though.

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[quote=skinsfan69;558756]Talent wise you're probably right. But don't under estimate what Eli did. He stepped his game up when it mattered most. Plus he drove his team down the field for a SB win. I was very impressed with his performace in 07. McNabb threw 3 INTS in his SB. I think McNabb is better though.[/quote]
Like I said before about Eli and that final drive....he threw two passes that should've been INTs and was fortunate they weren't.

The Giants offense had amassed 3 points total going into the 4th quarter and if it wasn't for the extraordinary performance by the Giants defense(holding the Pats to 14pts/lowest all year)then what Eli does,doesn't really matter.

McNabb also threw for 357yds and 3 TDs along with those 3 INTs(the last one being a final heave with no time left).

The Eagles offense this season can be one of the best in the league,let alone the division.
They are stacked.