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CRedskinsRule 03-04-2009 07:46 PM

Re: Cooley comments on Jason Taylor
 
[quote=irish;533899]It wouldnt take much to improve on last season's pick 6 total so I predict your prediction will come true.[/quote]

Yeah i figured that was a real safe one there :D

tootergray34 03-04-2009 07:53 PM

Re: Cooley comments on Jason Taylor
 
you can look on his blog and see that they don't like each other in an interview. seriously, he drills him on old school movies and he couldn't even give a quote of caddyshack or top gun...JT is a douchbag.

by the way, cooley is a lifelong Broncos fan, but now that he has been a redskin, he loves them. He said he was also hazed...and he had all his clothes stolen...and had to sing the redskins fight song completely before he could get his clothes back...that's a team baby. haha.

irish 03-04-2009 07:55 PM

Re: Cooley comments on Jason Taylor
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;533900]not if he is going to have a larger salary cap hit, where would we build the larger group impact that you spoke of?[/quote]

Cassell is a pro style QB that IMO could come in and get this O into gear and scoring points. The cap doesnt matter, the FO can flim flam those numbers however they want to make him fit it they really wanted.

On either line.

tootergray34 03-04-2009 08:00 PM

Re: Cooley comments on Jason Taylor
 
Cassell is gone anyways, going to the crappy chiefs...looks we are stuck with a mediocre JC for now, until people start chanting colt brennan in the stands...then we've got another doug williams situation on our hands with that contraversy.

CRedskinsRule 03-04-2009 08:05 PM

Re: Cooley comments on Jason Taylor
 
[quote=irish;533906]Cassell is a pro style QB that IMO could come in and get this O into gear and scoring points. The cap doesnt matter, the FO can flim flam those numbers however they want to make him fit it they really wanted.

On either line.[/quote]

Please he was on a team that went 16-0 and the team finished 11-5. obviously he can't handle pro offenses.

I've no clue how good Cassell is, but you said you wanted to re work the lines and then edited it to include getting Cassell. So mainly your gripe is JC, but we are not replacing him this year period, would be a ridiculous proposition, so instead they went out and got top quality at positions we are weak at and that is a good proposition. Cassell would no more win us three games (he lost NE 5) then AH will, but our D should be dominating enough and that a modest improvement in our offense, which we should see or Zorn will be to blame, should lead to dramatic results.

They are serving Koolaid and Ice Cream again!!!!! :)

nyredskinsfan 03-04-2009 08:15 PM

Re: Cooley comments on Jason Taylor
 
Yep that's alot of cabbage but I'm pretty darn glad that he showed his lack of heart now and not later when the season started, because it would surface real quick. I guess ole Parcels knew a thing or two about this guy. About missing his family...there's a bunch or people spread thoughout the world wearing military uniforms that miss their families every day for months at a time. Looked like a great signing after Daniels went down...however...and it's not Snyder's fault.

GTripp0012 03-04-2009 08:34 PM

Re: Cooley comments on Jason Taylor
 
[quote=irish;533896]I mis-spoke when I said rebuild. I wasnt talking about loading up the line with upper tier players. I was talking about bringing in mid tier guys that can be in a position to outplay their contract. There is no way AH can outplay his contract.

I dont have a problem with the AH signing, I just think the $ could have been spend on more players that could have had a larger group impact.

I think AH can be a good player for the Skins but he's not going to be the difference in this team getting to the playoff. This team doesnt score points and AH isnt going to change that. Getting Cassell might have changed that.[/quote]Speaking of mid-level quarterbacks who won't help and might hurt the Skins, but you would support getting anyway, I hear Derek Anderson is available. Should we go after him?

skinsfan_nn 03-04-2009 09:10 PM

Re: Cooley comments on Jason Taylor
 
[quote=irish;533896]I mis-spoke when I said rebuild. I wasnt talking about loading up the line with upper tier players. I was talking about bringing in mid tier guys that can be in a position to outplay their contract. There is no way AH can outplay his contract.

I dont have a problem with the AH signing, I just think the $ could have been spend on more players that could have had a larger group impact.

I think AH can be a good player for the Skins but he's not going to be the difference in this team getting to the playoff. This team doesnt score points and AH isnt going to change that. Getting Cassell might have changed that.[/quote]

Fair enough. As I'm not sold on JC myself. This will be the year he either breaks through and takes a huge step or gets run outta DC IMO.

SmootSmack 03-04-2009 09:34 PM

Re: Cooley comments on Jason Taylor
 
People are sleeping on Tyler Thigpen...

As for Taylor, one of the more curious aspects of the whole thing is that he apparently never said "Look, I get that you want to offer me an extra $500k in exchange for this commitment because you've invested a lot in me and it hasn't paid off. But I don't want to make that commitment, but tell you what how about I give back some of my money in exchange for not having to do this"

skinsfan69 03-04-2009 11:11 PM

Re: Cooley comments on Jason Taylor
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;533867]Ya know, I have never been anti-Giants, but I swear after listening to so many members here gush at the Giants off season moves I think I may :vomit:.
Recapping:
they now have 7 starting linemen all with solid salary cap numbers, not all 7 can play at once, a good 2nd year safety, so they go out and add a safety, don't do anything for their cornerback position. and on offense they let one of their EWF crew go to another team, don't upgrade the line(backups),[B] don't upgrade receivers[/B].[/quote]

Well they have high draft picks that they are counting on. Mario Manningham, who was one of the best college 07 college wr's, Steve Smith and Santana's little brother. They seem to know what they're doing. Jerry Reece is a pretty damn good GM. Plus Ward was expendable. I don't see that as a big loss.

skinsfan69 03-04-2009 11:18 PM

Re: Cooley comments on Jason Taylor
 
[quote=irish;533878]IMO for that kind of $ they could have rebuilt the entire line instead of just plugging in 1 player who like you said isnt really going to make much of a difference. If they had to spend that $ I'd have liked to see them take a run at Cassell. That is the position that is really holding this team back.[/quote]

If you put Cassel in our offense last year I really don't think you'd see a big difference. I don't think he's good enough to carry an offense.

GusFrerotte 03-04-2009 11:37 PM

Re: Cooley comments on Jason Taylor
 
[quote=Paintrain;533629]This is why Cooley will go down as one of the most popular Redskins ever. The dude is just real, he gets it when obviously so many others in the NFL don't.

[URL="http://chriscooley47.blogspot.com/2009/03/jt-hates-money.html"]The Official Blog of Chris Cooley: JT Hates Money[/URL][/quote]


When do folks in or around the NFL, as well as the fans, don't know it is all about the Benjamins? People are pissed because the bastard got all that money for being oft injured, and underperformed, with the exception of what, one game. Folks get it, just don't like it that much anymore. When folks are busting their asses, working two jobs just to pay rent, the mortgage, food, gas for work, just to survive, and these bozos get milliions for basically jerking off how do you think they are going to react? The NFL and NBA want bailouts by us working stiffs(taxpayers) that work 40+ hours a week year round? Why don't they try and lower the frigging salaries of their players then. Eventually this is going to happen. Soon folks will be too worried about mere survival than worrying about the bread and circuses that have served as mere distractions for the past half century. It is funny, the Skins laid off another batch of office personnel, probably for good, and nobody wants to even talk about these ridiculous salaries the players make.

NYCSkin 03-05-2009 12:08 AM

Re: Cooley comments on Jason Taylor
 
[quote=GusFrerotte;534028]When do folks in or around the NFL, as well as the fans, don't know it is all about the Benjamins? People are pissed because the bastard got all that money for being oft injured, and underperformed, with the exception of what, one game. Folks get it, just don't like it that much anymore. When folks are busting their asses, working two jobs just to pay rent, the mortgage, food, gas for work, just to survive, and these bozos get milliions for basically jerking off how do you think they are going to react? The NFL and NBA want bailouts by us working stiffs(taxpayers) that work 40+ hours a week year round? Why don't they try and lower the frigging salaries of their players then. Eventually this is going to happen. Soon folks will be too worried about mere survival than worrying about the bread and circuses that have served as mere distractions for the past half century. It is funny, the Skins laid off another batch of office personnel, probably for good, and nobody wants to even talk about these ridiculous salaries the players make.[/quote]

Gus--A well put social commentary of the times from someone in a town that is unfortunately suffering the most during this current economic calamity...

Regarding the JT situation; here is my rebuttal to Cooley's thoughtful argument---players his age (and sometimes younger i.e. Portis) tire of the whole offseason regimen and really only want to play (and get paid for) their work during the season. So I expect JT will chill until July, spending time in Miami with his family, and then get signed in August by the Pats or another contender that has lost a DE to injury during training camp. His kids will be in school again, he'll probably get a contract for 3-4 million, and still have a chance for a ring. The money lost by not being with the Skins therefore will equate to the opportunity costs earned by spending time with his family and eventually signing on with a team with a better shot of winning the Super Bowl.

tryfuhl 03-05-2009 12:16 AM

Re: Cooley comments on Jason Taylor
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;533911]Please he was on a team that went 16-0 and the team finished 11-5. obviously he can't handle pro offenses.
[/quote]

I'm not sure if you were being sarcastic here or not.

tryfuhl 03-05-2009 12:17 AM

Re: Cooley comments on Jason Taylor
 
[quote=SmootSmack;533956]People are sleeping on Tyler Thigpen...

As for Taylor, one of the more curious aspects of the whole thing is that he apparently never said "Look, I get that you want to offer me an extra $500k in exchange for this commitment because you've invested a lot in me and it hasn't paid off. But I don't want to make that commitment, but tell you what how about I give back some of my money in exchange for not having to do this"[/quote]

Why would he offer to give some back? It wasn't counting against our cap was it?


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