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[quote=GTripp0012;322112]Very good point, although a 30th out of 32 ranking suggests a consistent and decisive inability to run in short yardage situations, as to mean someone needs to be replaced. Do you suggest replacing Portis in short yardage situations?[/quote]


Ok this is how I do it. In run blocking I would put us at number 3 behind the Chiefs and Chargers. (Since will shields retired from the chiefs we could bump to number 2.)

In pass blocking I put us at 4. So in total I put us at the number 3 offensive line in the league. Behind Indy and Kansas City.

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[quote=BigSKINBauer;321975]Atlanta, Jax, San Fran, and San Diego above us. I'll put KC and Pitt above us for the fact that they have been good for a relatively long time. So... 123456 [B]7[/B][/quote]
There is no way I would rank San Francisco's O-line ahead of ours.

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[quote=GTripp0012;322112]Very good point, although a 30th out of 32 ranking suggests a consistent and decisive inability to run in short yardage situations, as to mean someone needs to be replaced. Do you suggest replacing Portis in short yardage situations?[/quote]

Maybe, we saw Sellers get a few short yardage carries last year, perhaps we'll see more of that this year.

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[quote=Mattyk72;322159]Maybe, we saw Sellers get a few short yardage carries last year, perhaps we'll see more of that this year.[/quote]


If not Portis Betts or Sellers for short yardage situations.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;322159]Maybe, we saw Sellers get a few short yardage carries last year, perhaps we'll see more of that this year.[/QUOTE]

I agree, Sellers is a total [B][SIZE="2"]MONSTER[/SIZE][/B] every time he touches the ball, I would love to see him used for short yardage situations. Portis and Betts are great between the 20's or even the 10's but lets see what Sellers can do on the goal line... And I am not talking about those roll out passes either, I want to see him up the gut and take out LB on his way to the endzone from like the 3 yard line....

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[quote=Redskins8588;322169]I agree, Sellers is a total [B][SIZE=2]MONSTER[/SIZE][/B] every time he touches the ball, I would love to see him used for short yardage situations. Portis and Betts are great between the 20's or even the 10's but lets see what Sellers can do on the goal line... And I am not talking about those roll out passes either, I want to see him up the gut and take out LB on his way to the endzone from like the 3 yard line....[/quote]


and then he can slober all over them and spike the ball in their face. The guy is 260-275 pounds. I love how he ran over Brian Dawkins in 2005. I want to see more of that.

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1. SD
2. Vikings
3. Patriots
4. SKins

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[quote=skins009;322193]1. SD
2. Vikings
3. Patriots
4. SKins[/quote]



500 for you. You must be happy

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This is as good a way of ranking OLs as I've seen...

[url=http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=1024&Category=2]Cold, Hard Football Facts.com: Quality Stats: 2006 Offensive Hog Index[/url]

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Why are you guys putting the Chiefs up there? As of now they're panicking in Kansas City about how old their line is. To make matters worse both [B]Willie Roaf and Will Shields [/B]are now retired. They also released Kyle Turley this past week, who started a handful of games for them at tackle. Put it this way, if this was the WarPath Chiefs forum we would be starting threads about why haven't the Chiefs addressed their O-Line this past offseason. In conclusion their O-Line is good not great.

Chiefs Depth Chart

LT - D. McIntosh
LG - B. Waters
C- C. Wiegmann
RG - J. Welbourn
RT - C. Terry

Oh yeah, another thing. How the hell is Atlanta getting in peoples top 5. Sure they're great at run blocking I will give you that, but they can't even protect the most mobile QB in the game. Then again maybe hes busy thinking about his next dog fight while flipping off some kid in section 132 while carrying a water bottle full of 'jewelry.'

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You think they can't protect him or he just sucks at passing?

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San Diego and Indy are better hands down. I would also say there are a handful of teams in the same category: ATL, NO, SF, BAL, PIT...just to name a few. However, I think they're a top 10 offensive line and certainly cannot be #32, I'm pretty sure that's been a staple of the Houston Texans franchise since their inception.

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A mobile QB can be hard to protect since you don't know where he's going to be all the time. It's hard to maintain a pocket when the QB doesn't want to stay in it.

I'd guess that Vick brings a lot of sacks on himself by scrambling around and not getting rid of the ball quickly enough.

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[quote=davy;322272]This is as good a way of ranking OLs as I've seen...

[URL="http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=1024&Category=2"]Cold, Hard Football Facts.com: Quality Stats: 2006 Offensive Hog Index[/URL][/quote]

That is great stuff and very much in line with my previous post re: rankings. The only surprise to me was Indy being so low. They are ranked #1 in NPP% and they are far ahead of #2. Since they are a pass first team with the best QB in the league I have to believe they should be ranked higher by this measure.

Maybe you could adjust these rankings by weighting the run blocking ranking and the negative pass play ranking by the percentage of total yard gained by rushing or passing over the season. That way a primarily running team would get more credit for having a high yards/carry, and a primarily passing team would get more credit for being great pass blockers.

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[QUOTE=jdlea;322410]San Diego and Indy are better hands down. I would also say there are a handful of teams in the same category: ATL, NO, SF, BAL, PIT...just to name a few. However, I think they're a top 10 offensive line and certainly cannot be #32, I'm pretty sure that's been a staple of the Houston Texans franchise since their inception.[/QUOTE]

Well structured offenses make a very good line look great. I think both SD and Indy are examples. The fact that each has an offense that simply clicks in the passing game really reduces the strain on the OL. They are both very good for sure. I am hopeful that our passing game can improve to the point that the mechanics and execution of our passing game make our line look even better.