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[QUOTE=freddyg12;284965]Never said he was taking it personally. In fact, all indications are that Springs is just conducting biz - he wants to try the mkt. & by refusing the pay cut he's increasing his chances.
At the same time, he is under contract & the Skins don't have to let him go or seek a trade. See my earlier post on this thread - this is cat & mouse between he & the FO; Skins have the power to keep him as he's under contract, but he has the power to only accept that contract & not take the cut.[/QUOTE]

My post wasn't directed at you, per se. There has been a lot of speculation about whether Springs is happy here.

I agree with you about the cat and mouse game between him and the FO. It does seem like he wants out, and he's using his contract as leverage. My only question is: does he think he'll get a bigger contract in FA? That would be ridiculous. He didn't play the entire season last year, and he didn't do anything spectacular either. Why would he think he could get a big payday in FA? Maybe he just wants to go to a contender. That is the only reason that makes sense to me.

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;285058]My post wasn't directed at you, per se. There has been a lot of speculation about whether Springs is happy here.

I agree with you about the cat and mouse game between him and the FO. It does seem like he wants out, and he's using his contract as leverage. My only question is: does he think he'll get a bigger contract in FA? That would be ridiculous. He didn't play the entire season last year, and he didn't do anything spectacular either. Why would he think he could get a big payday in FA? Maybe he just wants to go to a contender. That is the only reason that makes sense to me.[/quote]

good point ghetto, but in this market I guess he and/or his agent feels there's more money to be made. I'm not sure about the contender part, but IMO most players are looking out for their financial security first, and you can't blame them for that. Springs has one payday left, but maybe he does want to go to a contender. So, lets keep him and contend!

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Kinda sounds like BLY better get used to the COLD!

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/03/06/bc.fbn.broncos.bly.ap/index.html]SI.com - NFL - Broncos optimistic Bly will come around to trade - Tuesday March 6, 2007 6:03PM[/url]

Re: Dre' Bly wants to be a Skin? That's What I Hear
 

they are just hoping he calms down, doesn't mean he will

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[quote=Mattyk72;284922]Bly wants his Snyder payday, for that reason alone it makes me leary of bringing him in.

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This is True. It's like the old Woody Allen (Groucho?) saying about not joining a club that would have you as a member. The Redskins should be careful about signing people who want to play for them. Or, we're like the girl who has a reputation for putting out every Saturday night. We attract all sorts of loathsome characters who have only one thing on their minds - and we're so ashamed afterward. . The somewhat encouraging news is that so far this off-season we seem to be more restrained.

As for Springs, the trick is to keep him here [I]with[/I] cap relief. And what's this about a pay-cut? Does anyone ever take a real pay cut? Doesn't the money just get converted to bonus to make up the difference? Although, someone said that Brunell had taken a real one so I need explanation. That Guy? Schneed? Canuck? How do we keep Springs for the least cap affect? Be creative.

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Let me ask you all if Springs wants out and will do a Arrington buy out of his contract would you do it? Also with Dre Bly if Denver wated to trade Bly to the Skins for our 6th pick in the draft along with Devers 1st,2nd and our 3rd from the Duckett trade woud you do that? JC of Redkin Insider feels this has a real chance of happening. Pluse a later pick in the 6th round or 7th from Denver. Also the Lions have been asking about Springs.

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[quote=RedskinPete;285087]Let me ask you all if Springs wants out and will do a Arrington buy out of his contract would you do it? Also with Dre Bly if Denver wated to trade Bly to the Skins for our 6th pick in the draft along with Devers 1st,2nd and our 3rd from the Duckett trade woud you do that? JC of Redkin Insider feels this has a real chance of happening. Pluse a later pick in the 6th round or 7th from Denver. Also the Lions have been asking about Springs.[/quote]

This would be a great deal. Even if it meant giving Bly a big signing bonus, it would allow us to sign several low priced guys in the draft. It almost sounds like they are willing to give it up "a la Cerrato" to move up to #6.

Could be a #1, #2, #3, #6, and a #3 if we also trade Springs... AND we still end up with a good corner in Bly.

I guess we will see...

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[QUOTE=RedskinPete;285087]Let me ask you all if Springs wants out and will do a Arrington buy out of his contract would you do it?[/QUOTE]



Ever since arrington bought out his contract the players association has changed the rules so players couldnt do that anymore.

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[quote=love them hogs;285125]Ever since arrington bought out his contract the players association has changed the rules so players couldnt do that anymore.[/quote]

that's generally right. he actually gave money back, but i think you might still be able to re-work your contract to exclude future guarantees that aren't yet payable...

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Here's a question who's going to be our starting CB's this year? I personally would like to see Fred Smoot, Carlos Rogers as the starters, because they're both fairly young, and if they can develop together I think they could become a premier CB tandem. Now the other question is if we keep Springs where do you think he will fit in? If we get Dre' Bly I think it will be obvious that he is our #1 CB so who is the odd man out then Rogers or Smoot?
I hope we make a decision on this Bly/ Springs trade soon so we can sort all this out.

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[quote=RMSkins;285436]Here's a question who's going to be our starting CB's this year? I personally would like to see Fred Smoot, Carlos Rogers as the starters, because they're both fairly young, and if they can develop together I think they could become a premier CB tandem. Now the other question is if we keep Springs where do you think he will fit in? If we get Dre' Bly I think it will be obvious that he is our #1 CB so who is the odd man out then Rogers or Smoot?
I hope we make a decision on this Bly/ Springs trade soon so we can sort all this out.[/quote]

smoot is a good #2 corner, not a #1. bly/springs are #1s (springs is better when completely healthy, bly misses less games). rodgers would clearly be the nickel back. he's a good #3, and on his best games he's worth starting, but last year he only had 2 good games and a ton of crappy ones, so until he figures it out, i wouldn't start him.

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[quote=That Guy;285667]smoot is a good #2 corner, not a #1. bly/springs are #1s (springs is better when completely healthy, bly misses less games). rodgers would clearly be the nickel back. he's a good #3, and on his best games he's worth starting, but last year he only had 2 good games and a ton of crappy ones, so until he figures it out, i wouldn't start him.[/quote]

I agree with you, but then what does that say about Carlos? I mean we drafted this guy with our 9th pick, and he has only been in the leauge two years, granted he struggled last year but that doesn't mean he is not going to turn out to be a good starter for us. I personally think demoting Carlos Rogers to #3 CB is a very bad decision, and will hinder his development.

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sniff sniff somebody smells what i have been stepping in for the last few days now.

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carlos isnt what he should be or what we thought he would be.

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I would love to add Bly to the mix because of his playmaking ability - he can create turnovers and that is what the skins struggled to do last year. I don't know if he's as good a cover corner as Springs, I think they are pretty close, but Dre makes plays and thats what this defense needs.