Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

[quote=los panda;885675]i have no idea what kind of contract flynn is going to command. if the redskins signed him for less than $7M/year and rg3 fell to us at 6, i'd be happy to have both. that will not happen[/quote]

I'd take this and a bag of chips, but I don't see RGIII falling past the Browns. I think I'm the only one here who believes the Rams are probably looking at taking him and dishing Bradford.

Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

[quote=SBXVII;885718]Ok, so.... where are we after we draft RGIII and he turns out to be no better then Grossman? makes wrong reads, makes bad throws, makes bad decisions and we win no more games then we did last yr or do worse?[/quote]

I would say that RGIII is a much better pro prospect than Grossman was coming out of college. RGIII has potential/athletic ability far above and beyond anything Grossman ever showed. IMO

Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;885676]Same. the only way I think we would do both is if RG3 fell to 6 and we had already picked a QB up in FA. I have a feeling he could possibly fall to us, im not so sure anyone is willing to trade up at such a high price and im not so sure the browns are sold on him at 4. But until then i guess i will hope we dont sign a big qb FA i just want rg3[/quote]

The only way I don't see the Skins going after a FA QB is if they keep Grossman or Beck. :vomit: At this point I'm ready to take "almost" anyone over Grossman and Beck. Note my "almost"... I don't see Orton as being any better. Heck he couldn't beat Grossman out in Chicago.

Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

[quote=Jontrem;885724]I would say that RGIII is a much better pro prospect than Grossman was coming out of college. RGIII has potential/athletic ability far above and beyond anything Grossman ever showed. IMO[/quote]

and I'm not at all argueing that. I'm just wondering why everyone simply expects RGIII to come out and play like Eli Manning when he has not even played against top tier NFL talent. I'm just wondering what plan B is if he comes out and plays like ... IDK, I'd say Vince Young but some of you are high on him as well for whatever reason. Lets just say he throws 2 INTs a game and makes bad decisions?

See, I'm planning for worse case scenario hoping for best case. I think some fans here or atleast it sounds like it see RGIII being the problem solver and there is no need for plan B. I'd rather not had given up 3-4 picks to get RGIII and he fail then to keep my draft picks and turn them into 3-4 picks with a plan A and a plan B in place.

Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

you have to take a risk sometimes to get a reward, i see what your saying and that would be great if rg3 fell to 6 but idk if that will happen. I think its time we get our qb of the future and i think it could be him but thats just me, i really really dont want another year of sub par qb play. The only options I like is picking up manning if hes fully healthy and rg3, but both of these are risks, but what choice isnt you have to take a risk at some point and hope it pays off

Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

[quote=SBXVII;885729]and I'm not at all argueing that. I'm just wondering why everyone simply expects RGIII to come out and play like Eli Manning when he has not even played against top tier NFL talent. I'm just wondering what plan B is if he comes out and plays like ... IDK, I'd say Vince Young but some of you are high on him as well for whatever reason. Lets just say he throws 2 INTs a game and makes bad decisions?

See, I'm planning for worse case scenario hoping for best case. I think some fans here or atleast it sounds like it see RGIII being the problem solver and there is no need for plan B. I'd rather not had given up 3-4 picks to get RGIII and he fail then to keep my draft picks and turn them into 3-4 picks with a plan A and a plan B in place.[/quote]

I have said in numerous posts that I would rather have manning(healthy), a top flight WR, a back up QB and maybe a ILB (Te'o?) next year than Griffin this year(The three picks we would have to give up being those players). I just think it makes us a better team. However if we cant get that then I want Griffin. I am so tired of routing for a team with no real QB

Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

More bad news surfaces for Peyton:

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/15/manning-underwent-unknown-surgery-last-year/]Manning underwent unknown surgery last year | ProFootballTalk[/url]
[I]
[B]More surgery expected[/B]: Manning’s neck has potentially developed bone spurs. The Colts believe further surgery is “nearly inevitable,” even if Manning can successfully return to football this year.[/I]

Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

[quote=GMScud;885753]More bad news surfaces for Peyton:

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/15/manning-underwent-unknown-surgery-last-year/]Manning underwent unknown surgery last year | ProFootballTalk[/url]
[I]
[B]More surgery expected[/B]: Manning’s neck has potentially developed bone spurs. The Colts believe further surgery is “nearly inevitable,” even if Manning can successfully return to football this year.[/I][/quote]

Hard to know what to believe anymore. Could just be the Colts version of things.

Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

[quote=GMScud;885753]More bad news surfaces for Peyton:

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/15/manning-underwent-unknown-surgery-last-year/"]Manning underwent unknown surgery last year | ProFootballTalk[/URL]
[I]
[B]More surgery expected[/B]: Manning’s neck has potentially developed bone spurs. The Colts believe further surgery is “nearly inevitable,” even if Manning can successfully return to football this year.[/I][/quote]


no thank you, this will be our football lives if we sign him. Every week it will some injury update.

Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

[url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2012/2/15/2800158/tale-of-the-tape-robert-griffin-iii-vs-oklahoma]Tale of the Tape: Robert Griffin III vs Oklahoma - Hogs Haven[/url]

Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

[quote=GMScud;885753]More bad news surfaces for Peyton:

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/15/manning-underwent-unknown-surgery-last-year/"]Manning underwent unknown surgery last year | ProFootballTalk[/URL]

[I][B]More surgery expected[/B]: Manning’s neck has potentially developed bone spurs. The Colts believe further surgery is “nearly inevitable,” even if Manning can successfully return to football this year.[/I][/quote]

So that's 4 times he's been cut on in under two years? I just don't think he's going to be able to play anymore with this type of injury that's preventing him for throwing the ball like he use to.

Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

Peyton has earned the right to play this out however he sees fit, but I'd rather see him retire than come back and play as a shell of his former self and then basically be forced to hang it up for performance reasons.

Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

[quote=SmootSmack;885627]Oh man, that's really tough to answer. Let's see. I'll base it on pies. With 5 being very likely

PM and developmental 2nd tier QB: 3 Pies

PM and pass on developmental: 1 Pie

RGIII by trading: 2 Pies to #2/ 3 Pies to #3/ 4 Pies to #4

RGIII 'cause he falls to us: 1 Pie

Orton and developmental: 1 Pie

Other journeyman QB and developmental: 4.5 Pies (depends on what you see as journeyman, but this is what I most likely see happening)

Other: As in stay the course? 1 Pie[/quote]



But what kind of pie is it.

Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

[quote=SmootSmack;885634]Key Lime, Sweet Potato, and Apple

What if he trades up for RG3 and we have a losing season?

What if he gets Manning and Tannehill and we have a losing season?[/quote]

Thanks for asking my question should of continued to read the thread.:smashfrea

Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice
 

[quote=SBXVII;885722]I'd take this and a bag of chips, but I don't see RGIII falling past the Browns.[B] I think I'm the only one here who believes the Rams are probably looking at taking him and dishing Bradford[/B].[/quote]

I'm with you on that one, praying for it everyday.