[QUOTE=The Goat;945370]That's awesome...and also qualifies for the optimism thread![/QUOTE]

Yeah i thought about that. Hah.

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[quote=Mechanix544;945354]Again, we are always only 2 years away.[/quote]
I think that is just a sign of how broken this franchise has been since 1992. Granted 1999 and the begining of the Snyder era is the true begning of this team hitting bottom. Shanahan clearly owns this current mess, not a big fan of his, and I think the nepotism of having his son as OC, is problematic. As a father there is no way that could objectively judge my own sons if they worked for me.

But beyond the nepotism Shanahan owns the following blunders: McNubb trade, I "stake my reputation" on Beck/Grossman and the failure to address the offensive line and secondary.

It is truly mind boggling how many ex-Redskins go to other teams and then perform at a higher level. Chris Clemons at Seatle being the latest example with his 4 sack game, granted he bounced from the Skins to Oakland, to Philly, to finally Seatle, but seems this is a consistent story line. In my mind it is a symptom of an overall organizational/culture problem within the franchise.

Been a fan of this team for a long time, and that loyalty is not going to change, I guess the biggest problem are the childhood memories of when this team was good, and now twenty years of suck. My biggest hope is that RG3 is able to turn this franchise around.

I am becoming very sceptical that Shanahan is the one to guide this team and RG3. I think they way they are using RG3 is very reckless and will cost the franchise long term, they need to let him, throw the damn football! The kid is a phenomenal talent and it is going to be a bitter pill of the Shananigan duo, messes him up trying to win a couple more games on a season in which it is obvious that this team is no where near being ready to contend for a division title or the playoffs. I almost cringe at thinking what is going to happen when the likes of Dallas, NY, and Philly defenses t-off on RG3 with the incredibly porous o-line. Rant off.

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So many flaws with that post, but whatever. To each their own. Hail to the Redskins

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[quote=SmootSmack;945384]So many flaws with that post, but whatever. To each their own. Hail to the Redskins[/quote]

Really? I couldn't find a single one, though admittedly I don't really think about the pre-Snyder era much. But other than that is there anything from the post you can honestly refute with factual evidence?

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[quote=DirtBagZ;945383]It is truly mind boggling how many ex-Redskins go to other teams and then perform at a higher level. Chris Clemons at Seatle being the latest example with his 4 sack game, granted he bounced from the Skins to Oakland, to Philly, to finally Seatle.[/quote]

Oh, come on! How can you be serious? He went to how many teams before he stabilized and had one good game?

The Skins are finally getting where they need to be and people are complaining about the the Shanahan's?

:Smoker:

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[quote=RedskinRat;945386]Oh, come on! How can you be serious? He went to how many teams before he stabilized and had one good game?

The Skins are finally getting where they need to be and people are complaining about the the Shanahan's?

:Smoker:[/quote]

Bottom of the league defense and no healthy starting O tackles isn't where I'd like to be. Not even close :(

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[quote=The Goat;945388]Bottom of the league defense and no healthy starting O tackles isn't where I'd like to be. Not even close :([/quote]

Agreed, but I don't place the blame for injuries on the Coaches and the Offense and D were never going to be fixed in under 5 years.

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I knew this already, but some people here needs their CPU taken away.

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[quote=RedskinRat;945386]Oh, come on! How can you be serious? He went to how many teams before he stabilized and had one good game?

[B]The Skins are finally getting where they need to be and people are complaining about the the Shanahan's?[/B]

:Smoker:[/quote]

Scapegoats. Someone's gotta bear the brunt of the blame.:Smoker:

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[quote=The Goat;945385]Really? I couldn't find a single one, though admittedly I don't really think about the pre-Snyder era much. But other than that is there anything from the post you can honestly refute with factual evidence?[/quote]

Plenty. So could you

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[quote=RedskinRat;945392]Agreed, but I don't place the blame for injuries on the Coaches and the Offense and D were never going to be fixed in under 5 years.[/quote]Sure transition to the ZBS takes time, and I'm in favor of giving Shanny his five years, but the OL being in shambles all three Shanny seasons is troubling.

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Before the draft: "We better cater the offense to RGIII's strengths" i.e. His speed, Deep passes

After 3 weeks of doing that: "We need to bottle RGIII in the pocket and let him throw the damn football!" "He is going to get killed taking all these hits!"

Lets forget that he is almost 6'3" and pushing 230lbs. He apparently is so fragile like Mike Vick who is barely 6'0" and I don't care what his listed weight it, I dont believe that he is over 200lbs.

I don't like to be mean, but some people are just stupid.

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Remember we are all on the same side here.
We all want the Redskins to win football games.

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[quote=SmootSmack;945384]So many flaws with that post, but whatever. To each their own. Hail to the Redskins[/quote]

agreed Hail!!!

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;945400]Before the draft: "We better cater the offense to RGIII's strengths" i.e. His speed, Deep passes

After 3 weeks of doing that: "We need to bottle RGIII in the pocket and let him throw the damn football!" "He is going to get killed taking all these hits!"

Lets forget that he is almost 6'3" and pushing 230lbs. He apparently is so fragile like Mike Vick who is barely 6'0" and I don't care what his listed weight it, I dont believe that he is over 200lbs.

I don't like to be mean, but some people are just stupid.[/quote]

Son, if you think any QB can take the punishment RG3 has so far, for a full season, stupid is a vast understatement.

And just to keep things fact based, I've never seen him listed above 217.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/player/robertgriffiniii/2533033/profile]Robert Griffin III, QB for the Washington Redskins at NFL.com[/url]

He's pretty slender by NFL standards.