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Giantone 08-24-2018 12:58 PM

Re: Media Bias
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1198549]I think the thread serves a purpose, but yeah headline abuse is just an annoying fact of life.[/quote]

Having grown up in the NY suburban area I use to read about two to three papers a day. In the 60's and 70's there were a boat load of NY papers and NJ . Still the NY Post and the NY Daily News were the Kings of Headline BS.

Giantone 08-24-2018 05:00 PM

Re: Media Bias
 
This was fun ,I got 15 out of 17 !



[url]https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/24/opinion/trump-gotti-quiz.html[/url]

CRedskinsRule 08-24-2018 05:33 PM

Re: Media Bias
 
[quote=Giantone;1198573]This was fun ,I got 15 out of 17 !



[url]https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/24/opinion/trump-gotti-quiz.html[/url][/quote]
14

missed:
“He doesn’t know me but he would go down fast and hard, crying all the way.”
“I, I don’t believe I’m lying.”
“I would be a billionaire if I was looking to be a selfish boss. That’s not me.”

2 I said were trump, were gotti, 1 the other way.

Giantone 08-24-2018 05:46 PM

Re: Media Bias
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1198577]14

missed:
“He doesn’t know me but he would go down fast and hard, crying all the way.”
“I, I don’t believe I’m lying.”
“I would be a billionaire if I was looking to be a selfish boss. That’s not me.”

2 I said were trump, were gotti, 1 the other way.[/quote]
Two I said were Gotti ,were trump.

sdskinsfan2001 08-27-2018 11:55 AM

Re: Media Bias
 
We have a thread for the media bias too. I never even noticed where these articles were listed. Clicked on these inadvertently.

mooby 08-27-2018 01:40 PM

Re: Media Bias
 
[quote=Giantone;1198573]This was fun ,I got 15 out of 17 !



[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/24/opinion/trump-gotti-quiz.html[/URL][/quote]

15 out of 17.

The two I missed were

"Love nobody, love nobody"

and

“I would be a billionaire if I was looking to be a selfish boss. That’s not me.”

Both were Gotti, I said Trump.

Chico23231 08-28-2018 12:14 PM

Re: Media Bias
 
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/27/cnn-stands-by-report-that-president-knew-about-trump-tower-meeting-as-cohen-lawyer-recants.html[/url]

A CNN report from July 27 headlined, “Cohen claims Trump knew in advance of 2016 Trump Tower meeting,” was co-bylined by Jim Sciutto, Carl Bernstein and Marshall Cohen. It cited “sources with knowledge” and noted that the ex-Trump lawyer is willing tell Special Counsel Robert Mueller that Trump knew of the meeting in advance, contradicting repeated denials by Trump and his surrogates. CNN’s report resulted in countless cable news segments and sent other news organizations scurrying to match.

Among them was The Washington Post, which has since outed Cohen’s high-powered attorney Lanny Davis as its source -- while publishing an interview in which Davis backpedals.


Davis told The Washington Post Sunday that he “should have been more clear” that he “could not independently confirm what happened.” Davis even told the Post he regrets his “error.”



And this is why CNN is the biggest fake news source in the country. Completely embarrassing and why fake, biased news is very real in this country.

Washington post confirms the source and calls out the bullshit. CNN is past the point of embarrassment stands by story bc they know how bad it looks. Lol...you can’t make this stuff up...well actually you can!

Fake news alive and well. This is as an equal threat to our country as the president calling the press enemy of the people.

sdskinsfan2001 08-28-2018 12:54 PM

Re: Media Bias
 
News is just unwatchable in general to me. I wish these news channels did more 1 on 1 debates with a reasonable person from each side of the issue with fair/balanced moderator(s). I think people would get a lot out of that and could actually learn some things about the other sides position that is presented in a way where its balanced with your own position.

CRedskinsRule 08-28-2018 02:46 PM

Re: Media Bias
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1198837]News is just unwatchable in general to me. I wish these news channels did more 1 on 1 debates with a reasonable person from each side of the issue with fair/balanced moderator(s). I think people would get a lot out of that and could actually learn some things about the other sides position that is presented in a way where its balanced with your own position.[/quote]

gotta say, you do sound to sensible for these threads!

sdskinsfan2001 08-28-2018 02:57 PM

Re: Media Bias
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1198850]gotta say, you do sound to sensible for these threads![/quote]

I try my best. I think I usually do a fairly good job, especially considering I'm a racist, misogynistic, puppy kicking, conservative son of a bitch.

Chico23231 08-31-2018 10:13 AM

Re: Media Bias
 
[url]https://jezebel.com/reports-say-nbc-tried-to-kill-weinstein-story-threaten-1828734018[/url]

“Reports Say NBC Tried to Kill Weinstein Story, Threatened Ronan Farrow”

Of course they did. This is fucking disgusting...lawyers threatened Farrow.

When it comes to misogyny, sexual harassment the liberal media and Hollywood lead the way....what is it now 85% - 15% for the libs?

jamf 08-31-2018 11:08 AM

Re: Media Bias
 
[quote=Chico23231;1199069][url]https://jezebel.com/reports-say-nbc-tried-to-kill-weinstein-story-threaten-1828734018[/url]

“Reports Say NBC Tried to Kill Weinstein Story, Threatened Ronan Farrow”

Of course they did. This is fucking disgusting...lawyers threatened Farrow.

When it comes to misogyny, sexual harassment the liberal media and Hollywood lead the way....what is it now 85% - 15% for the libs?[/quote]

I'm going to pull a CRed on you, You need a better source than a womens blog quoting the daily beast.

But yes, Hollywood (Film and Music) and Fashion have been covering some fucked up shit.
But then again, they aren't elected officials trying to pass off their racist/sexist agenda as some religious bullshit.



Edited: engrish

Giantone 08-31-2018 11:33 AM

Re: Media Bias
 
Not Surprising .............


[url]https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trouble-trump-disapproval-high-63-back-mueller-half-112416277--abc-news-topstories.html[/url]


Trouble for Trump: Disapproval at a high, 63% back Mueller, half favor impeachment originally appeared on abcnews.go.com

Disapproval of Donald Trump is at a new high, support for the Mueller investigation is broad and half of Americans in a new ABC News/Washington Post poll favor Congress initiating impeachment proceedings against the president.

Sixty percent in the national survey disapprove of Trump’s performance in office, numerically the highest of his presidency, albeit by a single point; that includes 53 percent who disapprove strongly, more than half for the first time. Thirty-six percent approve, matching his low.

CRedskinsRule 08-31-2018 12:30 PM

Re: Media Bias
 
[quote=Giantone;1199076]Not Surprising .............


[url]https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trouble-trump-disapproval-high-63-back-mueller-half-112416277--abc-news-topstories.html[/url]


Trouble for Trump: Disapproval at a high, 63% back Mueller, half favor impeachment originally appeared on abcnews.go.com

Disapproval of Donald Trump is at a new high, support for the Mueller investigation is broad and half of Americans in a new ABC News/Washington Post poll favor Congress initiating impeachment proceedings against the president.

Sixty percent in the national survey disapprove of Trump’s performance in office, numerically the highest of his presidency, albeit by a single point; that includes 53 percent who disapprove strongly, more than half for the first time. Thirty-six percent approve, matching his low.[/quote]

shocking that it's the abc/wapo poll - which might tend a little biased one way, another one, Rasmussen (that biases the other way), has his approval hovering around 48 or 49%

[URL="https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html#polls"]RCP POLLS[/URL] does a great job of tracking the individual polls and running averages. AND when you focus in on the economy, the results show he's getting decent credit for "obama's economy"
[quote]Poll Date Sample [COLOR="Blue"]Approve[/COLOR] Disapprove Spread
RCP Average 6/14 - 8/28 -- [COLOR="Blue"]50.0[/COLOR] 42.3 +7.7
Economist/YouGov 8/26 - 8/28 1249 RV [COLOR="Blue"]49[/COLOR] 43 +6
Reuters/Ipsos 8/22 - 8/28 3550 A [COLOR="Blue"]47[/COLOR] 44 +3
Harvard-Harris 8/22 - 8/23 1330 RV [COLOR="Blue"]55[/COLOR] 45 +10
FOX News 8/19 - 8/21 1009 RV [COLOR="Blue"]49[/COLOR] 44 +5
Quinnipiac 7/18 - 7/23 1177 RV [COLOR="Blue"]49[/COLOR] 47 +2
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 7/15 - 7/18 900 RV [COLOR="Blue"]50[/COLOR] 34 +16
CNBC 6/16 - 6/19 800 A [COLOR="Blue"]51[/COLOR] 36 +15
CNN 6/14 - 6/17 901 RV [COLOR="Blue"]51[/COLOR] 42 +9[/quote]

( I hate cut and pasting tables on this site!!)

also from RCP - President Obama's approval - 2014 :
[quote]Reuters/Ipsos 9/3 - 9/7 1758 A [COLOR="Blue"]39[/COLOR] 53 -14.0
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 9/3 - 9/7 1000 RV [COLOR="Blue"]40[/COLOR] 54 -14.0
Reuters/Ipsos 8/30 - 9/3 1811 A [COLOR="Blue"]38[/COLOR] 56 -18.0
The Economist/YouGov 8/30 - 9/1 729 RV [COLOR="Blue"]41[/COLOR] 56 -15.0
GWU/Battleground 8/23 - 8/28 1000 LV [COLOR="Blue"]44[/COLOR] 51 -7.0
The Economist/YouGov 8/23 - 8/25 683 RV [COLOR="Blue"]43[/COLOR] 56 -13.0
Reuters/Ipsos 8/20 - 8/24 1497 A [COLOR="Blue"]38[/COLOR] 54 -16.0[/quote]

CRedskinsRule 08-31-2018 12:35 PM

Re: Media Bias
 
I think there is little doubt this mid-term House of Representatives election will be a referendum on Trump, but, and this is in anticipation of the media's spin headlines, the Senate is going to be a win for the Democrats simply because they have so many locked up seats that are having meaningless elections.

The big questions will be if the HofRep turns, and/or if the Senate flips. But even if the Republicans keep both the media will be running stories like "Big Blue Wave Misses Chance To Flip Congress"


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