julius Jones
 

Well TAFKAS, it was smart becasue we were able to trade down and get the players we got. Jacob Rogers, Stephen Peterman Patrick Crayton ect. We have done that the past few years and were able to get players and still fill positions we needed. Granted a few of those players mentioned didnt pan out but Parcells felt (and so did I at the time) that there wasnt that much difference between Steven jackson, Greg Jones, Kevin Jones and Julius Jones. So he went ahead and drafted JJ. The interestin thing about that draft is Parcells said he had Julius on his board reguardless, so he got the player he wanted. I thought it was a great pick-up and only time will tell if he can stay healthy. If he does he will be very good for a long time, he has speed and power that marion barber doesnt have.

Re: This is Dallas Week!!!
 

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Re: Dallas will get sweet revenge
 

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I believe this is reffered to as Taking it to the house

he is so fast that gibbs is still looking the other way

Re: Dallas will get sweet revenge
 

i think the one thing that is seperating our teams right now is offensive line play.our o line is playing pretty good right now and the cowboys are not.group that with the way the cowboy d line was pushed all over the field sunday and we might have something going for us.and the play where eddie kennison scored on the cowboys was almost the exact play that moss used twice against them earlier.maybe they still havent learned(or at least r williams hasnt)one of the best plays against arizona was the 4th quarter conversion of a 3rd and seven where our o line practically pushed portis for the first down.now that is something that looked like a blast from the past

Re: Dallas will get sweet revenge
 

[QUOTE=5RINGS]He runs upright and we got a first rounder from buffalo for moving out of the first round. Not to say that upright runners can't be successful, but the odds are against them..

He isn't tearing up the League by the way...[/QUOTE]



steven jackson is no more of an "upright runner" than eric dickerson, o.j simpson, roger craig or eddie george was. all of those guys were pretty good in their prime.

Re: This is Dallas Week!!!
 

i have those highlites on my computer and watch them at least once a week.im a dallas hater from way back go skins

Re: Dallas will get sweet revenge
 

redskins will play the cowroids tuff and the score will be close but in the end the skins will probably lose do to some bullshit officiating that always occurs when they play dallas.

Re: Cowboys-Redskins: Bad Matchups
 

[QUOTE=NFLeurope]TAYLOR JACOBS IS GONNA BE A STUD FOR THE SKINS!!! TAKE IT TO THE BANK! The question is when (The answer...hopefully this weekend)[/QUOTE]

I took it to the bank and it bounced.

Re: Dallas will get sweet revenge
 

I think the difference in Julius this season compared to last season is his quickness. He is not as quick as last season. He added some weight and muscle mass in the offseason.

That and I think he is trying to be a more "patient" runner, he is spending too much time waiting for lanes to develop. Whereas MB3 just runs DOWNHILL, he does not wait for lanes, he gets in his route and plays follow the leader. When MB3 takes off it is northbound, whereas if you look at Julius this season he will not get to the line as fast as he did his rookie year.

I think if he just "played the game that got him here" he will do just fine. He neede to get to full speed faster and get across the line of scrimmage quicker.

Re: Dallas will get sweet revenge
 

[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer][img]http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2005/12/11/PH2005121101119.jpg[/img]


I believe this is reffered to as Taking it to the house

he is so fast that gibbs is still looking the other way[/QUOTE]
He's looking for the flag...:) Maybe he thought we were playin dallas!

Re: Dallas will get sweet revenge
 

[QUOTE=Bozzy]Bullshit. My grandfather died this morning (he was 88) and a lifelong Redskins fan. He'll make the Skins win.

Cowboys is doomed. (sic)[/QUOTE]

Sorry to hear the bad news Bozzy. I wish your family all the best.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]If he had a history of being hurt in college, and in two years in the NFL he's been hurt both years then was it really a smart move to pass up other RBs to take him?[/QUOTE]

Well what we got was that second first rounder this past draft who has turned out to be our starting LDE Marcus Spears.

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[QUOTE=5RINGS]Sorry to hear the bad news Bozzy. I wish your family all the best.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the wishes, and a big thank you to all the other members for their wishes as well.

GO SKINS! SKIN THOSE BOYS!

(wait that sounded dirty...)

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[QUOTE=wolfeskins]steven jackson is no more of an "upright runner" than eric dickerson, o.j simpson, roger craig or eddie george was. all of those guys were pretty good in their prime.[/QUOTE]

Walter Payton, Emmitt Smith, Jerome Bettis, Jim Brown, Marshall Faulk, Barry Sanders, Earl Campbell, John Riggins.

Upright runners just don't fare as well as traditional 'pads down' runners it just a fact. That doesn't mean that they can't succeed, just means that the deck is stacked against them.

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Watch out for Antonio Brown and/or Sean Taylor thrown in the offensive mix.

Re: This is Dallas Week!!!
 

Remember the Redskins need us (the fans) to represent well this sunday vs Dallas: [IMG]http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0QwCNArsSvlb!91s!WvuSy6vZ770CGmBWcd3c3mp3euRoY!rcQTq4!PGDZLLACPR5S5IuF!rsocROnPJl8BjFK6ScNCLTAU67IWJEVE30v!Q/DSC01209.JPG?dc=4675551666213135889[/IMG]
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BOZZY, sorry for your loss. I know how you feel, I lost two close friends in two weeks since Thanksgiving. And I lost my father during the holidays last year.

Keep the faith bro!

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Personally I'm not ready to write TJ off as a complete bust.

Other than Moss and Cooley, nobody in this offense has received many looks.

Patten didn't see many balls go his way, and we assumed it was all on him.

Now TJ isn't getting many looks, and again we assume it must be him.

Perhaps Brunell is just so locked in on Cooley and Moss that the #2 WR isn't getting a fair shake. I think it's fair to say that could be the case. If Moss and Cooley are the first two options, then technically TJ or Patten are then the #3 WR and most #3 WR's in this league don't rack up huge numbers.[/QUOTE]

Patten has proven himself to be a capable wideout in the NFL. While some here may have written him off as a has-been, or that he suddenly forgot how to play, I think it's been more of a chemistry thing with Brunell. If, as you say Brunell is locked in to only two receivers to the point that he's neglecting other parts of the field, then that's the fault of Brunell.

Jacobs on the other hand has had time to break into the starting lineup and each year fails to do it. He has been virtually silent in his first legitimate shot at a starting role. Now, to be fair, Jacobs has been pushed into the #2 spot at a time when the offense as a whole seems to be in a rut. But by the same token, if Jacobs was truly going to be an effective player in this league, his play would be enhancing this offense, instead of being one of the reasons that it's struggling.

Still, I'll agree that Jacobs deserves at least the chance to make a contribution throughout the remainder of the season. If by then he hasn't "stepped up" and established himself as a member of the starting unit, his time here may have officially run out.

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[QUOTE=SkinsLove24/7]Watch out for Antonio Brown and/or Sean Taylor thrown in the offensive mix.[/QUOTE]
Yes, Gibbs has been workin on Taylor 4 offense and didint run it vs Cards.....Never know Baby!!!! He can jump with the best of em.

Re: Dallas will get sweet revenge
 

[QUOTE=5RINGS]Walter Payton, Emmitt Smith, Jerome Bettis, Jim Brown, Marshall Faulk, Barry Sanders, Earl Campbell, John Riggins.

Upright runners just don't fare as well as traditional 'pads down' runners it just a fact. That doesn't mean that they can't succeed, just means that the deck is stacked against them.[/QUOTE]

the deck is'nt stacked against them , there just are'nt as many rbs with their stile compared to "low pad" rbs. but the "up right" rbs are just as successfull , just less of them out there.

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Good to see my boys representing over here on our rival fansite's board. I don't think this game will be as close as it was last time. I'm predicting a semi-blowout in DC.

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[QUOTE=thevalleyranchreport]Good to see my boys representing over here on our rival fansite's board. I don't think this game will be as close as it was last time. I'm predicting a semi-blowout in DC.[/QUOTE]
Flee flicker wont work THIS time and Yes our D will handle your (giggle) run game once again! 27-13 Skins

I CANT WAIT!!!!!!!

I still dont understand why you cowboy fans are impelled to come here. We have a Cowboy fan here already...name 5rings.....1 is ENOUGH.

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Look, we can speculate, analyze, and synthesize this shit until we are blue in the face. The bottom line is that Joe Gibbs will share with this team his knowledge and experience as a head coach and have them prepared for this game. Execution is the key for this game moreso than any other game. The twelth man must execute the resounding noises that can resonate from RFK to FedEx.

Keys to victory for Dallas
 

I see a close game no doubt, simply because we are the Cowboys and all we do is play close games. The key for Dallas is stopping Portis, bottom line. People may say different and try to evaluate our pass D or the way Moss had success in the last game we played but the bottom line is we need to stop the skins run. In the first meeting we basically stopped Portis and you see the problems the skins O had in that game. those bombs at the end in my opinion were a once in a lifetime type plays, I dont see it happeneing again. Im sure Parcells and the coaching staff will review the first game and try to implicate the same scheme and be more weary of the long ball. Stopping Portis and preassuring brunnell is the way we will beat the skins. What Im fearful of is that WE wont run the ball forcing us to throw, throw, throw and get into a situation where we are forced to score to keep us in the game. Plus our defense is the jeckel and hide of the NFL, we can look so diminant one week and then the next look like we dont know what we are doing. Our run D will tighten this week and we will win a close game, giving Julius Jones his first 100 yrd game of the year. Bledsoe will look bad through out the game but will throw the game winning TD late in the 4th. Dallas over the skins 17-14 GO DALLAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Get ready to loose.......
Washington will be no match.......

Can clearly see that most of you feel the same way.

Go Boys!

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[QUOTE=Vaquero]Get ready to loose.......
Washington will be no match.......

Can clearly see that most of you feel the same way.

Go Boys![/QUOTE]
yes, Wasington has no match!!! GET LOST!!!!!Vagino

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Did a cowboy fan blow the bulldick horn?.....Where are these idiots coming from?

Re: Dallas will get sweet revenge
 

[QUOTE=tonydorsett33_00]Well guys Im sorry to tell you but Dallas will run, pass and tackle its way past the skins on sunday. There is to much at stake to lose to the deadskins and we have that miracle on monday night on our minds. Nothing will be sweeter than returning the favor in YOUR stadium and ending your playoff hopes, no matter how small they may be. Dont let the Larry Johnson performance fool you and think Dallas is now susceptable to the run because they played the pass trying to stop the run with only 7 men in the box against one of the best o-lines in football. We will stack the line vs Portis and dare Brunell to beat us and the old man just doesnt have it in him anymore. GO DALLAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
Comes in talkin chit, and leaves in doubt...grt job TAF:food-smil

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[QUOTE=Vaquero]Get ready to loose.......
Washington will be no match.......

Can clearly see that most of you feel the same way.

Go Boys![/QUOTE]

Those who are afraid that we could lose to Dallas are those who probably are complacent with life as it is and not subjective to change. Because to change means to sacrifice something you think is good. What's good in losing 14 out of 16 games to this bum-ass Dallas team that is as inconsistent as any NFL team in the league aside from Indianapolis? I'll tell you not one thing. We have finally gotten to the corner and are ready to turn the corner. With or without our starters. With our without alot of points. We will win this game because the players believe they can win. I don't care what we did against the Giants, they would have beaten the 75' Steelers with the emotional mindset they approached this game from. I expect the same from Washington.

The Reskins must impose their will on Dallas and knock them down everytime they get up.

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[QUOTE=SUNRA]Those who are afraid that we could lose to Dallas are those who probably are complacent with life as it is and not subjective to change. Because to change means to sacrifice something you think is good. What's good in losing 14 out of 16 games to this bum-ass Dallas team that is as inconsistent as any NFL team in the league aside from Indianapolis? I'll tell you not one thing. We have finally gotten to the corner and are ready to turn the corner. With or without our starters. With our without alot of points. We will win this game because the players believe they can win. I don't care what we did against the Giants, they would have beaten the 75' Steelers with the emotional mindset they approached this game from. I expect the same from Washington.

The Reskins must impose their will on Dallas and knock them down everytime they get up.[/QUOTE]
NUFF SAID!!!!!

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven]Patten has proven himself to be a capable wideout in the NFL. While some here may have written him off as a has-been, or that he suddenly forgot how to play, I think it's been more of a chemistry thing with Brunell. If, as you say Brunell is locked in to only two receivers to the point that he's neglecting other parts of the field, then that's the fault of Brunell.

Jacobs on the other hand has had time to break into the starting lineup and each year fails to do it. He has been virtually silent in his first legitimate shot at a starting role. Now, to be fair, Jacobs has been pushed into the #2 spot at a time when the offense as a whole seems to be in a rut. But by the same token, if Jacobs was truly going to be an effective player in this league, his play would be enhancing this offense, instead of being one of the reasons that it's struggling.

Still, I'll agree that Jacobs deserves at least the chance to make a contribution throughout the remainder of the season. If by then he hasn't "stepped up" and established himself as a member of the starting unit, his time here may have officially run out.[/QUOTE]



Well I was looking over the play-by-plays according to NFL.com from this year and it appears that for at least the first month and a half Patten did get a lot of looks just not a lot of receptions. Now part of that could have been Patten's fault, Brunell's, or plays such as the PI against Denver (I think). The numbers start to go down around the time that Patten got hurt.

After getting a ridiculous amount of looks his first game starting, Jacobs numbers have gone down. But again, a lot of that is probably attributable to an increased focus on the running game.

One thing to note is that unlike Jacobs, Patten never had a holding or illegal motion penalty or anything of that sort. But I agree with Beem-give him until the end of this season.


David Patten:

Week 1: 5 passes thrown, 3 catches
Week 2: 6 passes thrown, 1 catch
Bye Week
Week 4: 8 passes thrown, 3 catches
Week 5: 14 passes thrown, 7 catches
Week 6: 12 passes thrown, 4 catches
Week 7: 4 passes thrown, 2 catches
Week 8: 5 passes thrown, 1 catch
Week 9: 3 passes thrown, 0 catches
Week 10: 9 passes thrown, 3 catches

Taylor Jacobs:

Week 11: 12 passes thrown, 3 catches
Week 12: 5 passes thrown, 4 catches
Week 13: 4 passes thrown, 1 catch
Week 14: 2 passes thrown, 1 catch

Why we will lose and
 

why we will win...

We will WIN if:

1) Terry Glenn is held in check (no big plays)
2) Moss has at least 2 catches over 20 yds.
3) Our play mix is 60-40 run
4) We convert on 50% of 3rd downs.
5) We win the turnover battle
6) We get at least 3 sacks
7) Portis rushes for 100 yds.

We will LOSE if:

4 out of those 7 don't go our way.

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[QUOTE=44deisel44]Comes in talkin chit, and leaves in doubt...grt job TAF:food-smil[/QUOTE]

um thanks...not sure what I did though

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SANTRAPJACK---R U SERIOUS WITH YOUR ANALYSIS????

[B]"The Washington defense is ranked #9 in the NFL and Dallas Defense is ranked #10. The only thing that seperates the two is LESS THAN 2 YARDS of total yardage allowed. Dallas has allowed an average of 300.7 ypg and the Redskins defense has allowed 298.8 ypg. That is only a 1.9 yard difference over 13 games. If you do the math over 13 games the Dallas defense has only allowed 4 INCHES (not yards or feet, but INCHES) more per game than that of the Washington defense."[/B]


Are you kidding me with your analysis???? that is 1.9 yds per GAME!!!! You would need to multiply that number times 13 (GAMES) or nealry 26 yards.......INCHES, what are you talking about? What was your SAT score?

Re: Why we will lose and
 

You won't need to worry about those things. The Foreskins will lose just because you're playing the Cowboys. Don't forget, historically you only get one lucky win against us a year... not 2.

Re: Cowboys-Redskins: Bad Matchups
 

[QUOTE=Vaquero]Get ready to loose.......
Washington will be no match.......

Can clearly see that most of you feel the same way.

Go Boys![/QUOTE]

Bienvenidos Vaquero...I'm impressed you have time to post here, I figured you were busy cramming for your [URL=http://www.dallascowboyssuck.com/content.php?article.13]test[/URL]

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[QUOTE=lifetimeskin]SANTRAPJACK---R U SERIOUS WITH YOUR ANALYSIS????

[B]"The Washington defense is ranked #9 in the NFL and Dallas Defense is ranked #10. The only thing that seperates the two is LESS THAN 2 YARDS of total yardage allowed. Dallas has allowed an average of 300.7 ypg and the Redskins defense has allowed 298.8 ypg. That is only a 1.9 yard difference over 13 games. If you do the math over 13 games the Dallas defense has only allowed 4 INCHES (not yards or feet, but INCHES) more per game than that of the Washington defense."[/B]


Are you kidding me with your analysis???? that is 1.9 yds per GAME!!!! You would need to multiply that number times 13 (GAMES) or nealry 26 yards.......INCHES, what are you talking about? What was your SAT score?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, ask the Redskins what 1.9 yards meant at the end of the Tampa game.

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[QUOTE=Redskins8588]What did the TUNA think that Larry Johnson and Co. were just going to have a bad day, so he wanted to stop the threat of E. Kinninson, S. Parker and D. Hall? Still makes no sense!!! Sorry that arugment does not hold water!!

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Sorry, it does hold water and you obviously didn't watch the game. The Cowboys did not stack more than the front 7 most of the game because, yes, Parcells does believe in his teams' ability to stop the run. Unbeknownst to him his defense played the absolute worst game of the year on defense and yes, KC's offense presents mismatch problems for Dallas in the air now that Dat is gone and our corners weren't 100%.

Go watch some film before you start blowing farts out of your mouth gassing up the place. You can disagree with the argument all you like but that still won't change the fact that Dallas played mostly pass D.

Sad thing is we couldn't stop that either.

Re: Dallas will get sweet revenge
 

[QUOTE=lifetimeskin]SANTRAPJACK---R U SERIOUS WITH YOUR ANALYSIS????

[b]"The Washington defense is ranked #9 in the NFL and Dallas Defense is ranked #10. The only thing that seperates the two is LESS THAN 2 YARDS of total yardage allowed. Dallas has allowed an average of 300.7 ypg and the Redskins defense has allowed 298.8 ypg. That is only a 1.9 yard difference over 13 games. If you do the math over 13 games the Dallas defense has only allowed 4 INCHES (not yards or feet, but INCHES) more per game than that of the Washington defense."[/b]


Are you kidding me with your analysis???? that is 1.9 yds per GAME!!!! You would need to multiply that number times 13 (GAMES) or nealry 26 yards.......INCHES, what are you talking about? What was your SAT score?[/QUOTE]

Oh now don't get to worked up. We've been missing our best corner for about five games now. That's why the Skins are ahead.

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[QUOTE=ysl]Oh now don't get to worked up. We've been missing our best corner for about five games now. That's why the Skins are ahead.[/QUOTE]

Right, because the Redskins have been totally healthy all season long. :rolleyes: