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[quote=mredskins;1362169]round two curse strikes again, Johnny rockets to get foot surgery[/quote]

Jones fracture, he'll be ok. Same happend to Henry 2 years ago

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[quote=mredskins;1362169]round two curse strikes again, Johnny rockets to get foot surgery[/quote]

my question is, they obviously knew he needed this surgery before they drafted him? Right?

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And he had the same surgery already on the other foot. Bothersome that both feet were not diagnosed together (he believes the injuries were simultaneous), but the initial surgery seems to have gone well so no reason to worry this one will be different. Typical offseason non/minor story.

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[quote=Chico23231;1362172]my question is, they obviously knew he needed this surgery before they drafted him? Right?[/quote]

apparently no according to kiem, the other foot was operated on recently then this popped up

i don't think it is a big big deal but i mean when was the last time we hit on a 2nd rounder; good grief charlie brown

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[quote=mredskins;1362174]apparently no according to kiem, the other foot was operated on recently then this popped up

i don't think it is a big big deal but i mean when was the last time we hit on a 2nd rounder; good grief charlie brown[/quote]

Lol... Jon Jansen 1999? Lmao

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[QUOTE=mredskins;1362174]apparently no according to kiem, the other foot was operated on recently then this popped up



i don't think it is a big big deal but i mean when was the last time we hit on a 2nd rounder; good grief charlie brown[/QUOTE]we have 2 other draftees from the 2nd round, still should be a great draft

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Not to mention we were already sitting pretty good at that position. If there's a delay with getting him on the field, we'll be just fine there.

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I see that the Bears already named Caleb the starter. Curious why we aren't doing the same? Or maybe it'll come soon. I do not want to see Mariota, like ever. All the first team reps should go to Daniels from day one.

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Good for the Bears but I don’t see any need to name any starters just yet, we just finished the first rookie camp lol

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this group doesn't rush decisions that don't need to be made yet.

DQ would not project who would be starting at tackle this week when asked. They've said JD will start when he's ready (it'd be shocking if it's not week 1). It's been pretty consistent.

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[quote=That Guy;1362195]this group doesn't rush decisions that don't need to be made yet.

DQ would not project who would be starting at tackle this week when asked. They've said JD will start when he's ready (it'd be shocking if it's not week 1). It's been pretty consistent.[/quote]I will be floored if he's not the starter week 1. He'll be ready. If the oline is ready is the question. Kingsbury needs to draw up lots of deep routes. Daniels is lethal with these. One of the finest deep ball passers I've seen. Oline must give him time.

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#2 overall pick means he is ready. lol.

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[quote=MTK;1362191]Good for the Bears but I don’t see any need to name any starters just yet, we just finished the first rookie camp lol[/quote]

As long as Daniels gets the majority of the 1st team snaps i could care less if they name anyone a starter. I just don't want to see them splitting reps and taking away from Daniels development.

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[QUOTE=WCommandersfan99;1362198]I will be floored if he's not the starter week 1. He'll be ready. If the oline is ready is the question. Kingsbury needs to draw up lots of deep routes. Daniels is lethal with these. One of the finest deep ball passers I've seen. Oline must give him time.[/QUOTE]The deep routes are fine but there better be an outlet pass or an escape running lane built into them.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1362218]The deep routes are fine but there better be an outlet pass or an escape running lane built into them.

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that's why we drafted the bigger slower guys (sinnot, mccaffrey) and signed ekeler. It really feels like there's some potential to be good this year.

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[quote=That Guy;1362228]that's why we drafted the bigger slower guys (sinnot, mccaffrey) and signed ekeler. It really feels like there's some potential to be good this year.[/quote]Yes Ekeler is going to be great in this offense. Good runner and receiver. Ertz and Sinnot should be good also. Love this offseason. Absolutely killed the skill positions/qb in draft/fa.

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Love the eckler addition for sure. As well as a TON of the rest of the offseason and draft
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I'm just like everyone else, HIGHLY concerned... about the OL and just repeating last year's mistake with a young QB all over again 🤷

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[quote=Meks;1362233]Love the eckler addition for sure. As well as a TON of the rest of the offseason and draft
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I'm just like everyone else, HIGHLY concerned... about the OL and just repeating last year's mistake with a young QB all over again 🤷[/quote]A little surprised there wasn't more movement to upgrade oline by Peters as long as it has been neglected here. I will remain patient though. They did sign some guys and more hopefully soon. Daniels has superstar and playmaker written all over him.

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1362235]A little surprised there wasn't more movement to upgrade oline by Peters as long as it has been neglected here. I will remain patient though. They did sign some guys and more hopefully soon. Daniels has superstar and playmaker written all over him.[/quote]

It's safe to assume they watched the tape, there's no way they don't know that Lucas/Wylie/etc. are garbage. Two routes here - either they think they can fix them or they are hoping to make more moves.

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[quote=mooby;1362238]Two routes here - either they think they can fix them or they are hoping to make more moves.[/quote]Or a combination of the 2. Either way, the unit will need to be improved. Daniels was the best qb in the country last year in D1 football. His oline definitely did their part. Most uneasiness going into season for this unit.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1362186]I see that the Bears already named Caleb the starter. Curious why we aren't doing the same? Or maybe it'll come soon. I do not want to see Mariota, like ever. All the first team reps should go to Daniels from day one.[/QUOTE]


I think it is ridiculous to name anyone the starter at this point. What happened to earning that title in camp and in the preseason? If someone is so fragile that they need to hear that to perform than they probably have issues. Not saying CW needed to hear that. Im talking about every single player on every single roster.

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[quote=mooby;1362238]It's safe to assume they watched the tape, there's no way they don't know that Lucas/Wylie/etc. are garbage. Two routes here - either they think they can fix them or they are hoping to make more moves.[/quote]

I think it's both. The new system, new QB, and new coaching will hopefully help - but they will always be looking for upgrades.

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[quote=That Guy;1362228]that's why we drafted the bigger slower guys (sinnot, mccaffrey) and signed ekeler. It really feels like there's some potential to be good this year.[/quote]

McCaffrey running a 4.3 40 is slow?

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1362254]McCaffrey running a 4.3 40 is slow?[/quote]

Even B Sinnott is not "slow" for a TE. 4.68 is ok...not the fastest, but fast enough.

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1362254]McCaffrey running a 4.3 40 is slow?[/quote]

4.47 at the combine. And in today's NFL, yes, that's slow.

[url]https://www.nfl.com/videos/luke-mccaffrey-runs-40-yard-dash-at-2024-combine[/url]

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[QUOTE=That Guy;1362297]4.47 at the combine. And in today's NFL, yes, that's slow.

[url]https://www.nfl.com/videos/luke-mccaffrey-runs-40-yard-dash-at-2024-combine[/url][/QUOTE]


4.48 is average for nfl wr’s. So technically he is above average even if slightly but I certainly wouldn’t call it slow.

TE is 4.70 so same can be said for Sinnott. Slightly above average.

McCaffrey is a slot receiver anyway. He doesn’t have to be fast necessarily but quick. The cone drill and shuttle are better tests for a slot guy and he was in the 90 percentile range for both.

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I'm much more interested in what these dudes can do on the field in pads, than how they performed in the Underwear Olympics.

Being a K State fan, I've watched a lot of Sinnott. I am so glad we drafted him. JD will love this guy. We all will.

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[quote=punch it in;1362298]4.48 is average for nfl wr’s. So technically he is above average even if slightly but I certainly wouldn’t call it slow.

TE is 4.70 so same can be said for Sinnott. Slightly above average.

McCaffrey is a slot receiver anyway. He doesn’t have to be fast necessarily but quick. The cone drill and shuttle are better tests for a slot guy and he was in the 90 percentile range for both.[/quote]

slower than terry is what I meant. yes, a 4.5 at wr is absolutely fine at a slot guy (with quickness), jerry rice ran slower and had a great career, etc.

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[quote=That Guy;1362338]slower than terry is what I meant. yes, a 4.5 at wr is absolutely fine at a slot guy (with quickness), jerry rice ran slower and had a great career, etc.[/quote]Love Luke McCaffrey's film. Kid is tough, has hands, runs good routes and has a wonderful habit of making super catches around multiple defenders. Hard to believe with his bloodlines he won't be pretty good. Interested to see how much pt he gets as a rook.

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Luke McCaffrey has the second best 3 cone drill time among WR.

The 3-cone drill at the NFL Combine, also known as the L-drill, is designed to measure speed, agility, change of direction, body control among other traits

Perfect for slot type WR

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[quote=Chico23231;1362347]Luke McCaffrey has the second best 3 cone drill time among WR.

The 3-cone drill at the NFL Combine, also known as the L-drill, is designed to measure speed, agility, change of direction, body control among other traits

Perfect for slot type WR[/quote]Wow impressive stuff. Yes eager to see what he can do. I could see him being an Adam Peters home run selection in a later round.

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I don't care about 40 times at all, as long as he catches the ball with minimal drops and collects first downs and touchdowns like they're going out of style. And his blocking gotta be good too. If he ran 4.6 but did all that I'd love the pick.

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[quote=mooby;1362351]I don't care about 40 times at all, as long as he catches the ball with minimal drops and collects first downs and touchdowns like they're going out of style. And his blocking gotta be good too. If he ran 4.6 but did all that I'd love the pick.[/quote]

I think there is a disconnect as people think speed means separation. Freaks like desean Jax and t hill…of course it’s the speed, but most successful WR use technique and route running to gain separation.

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[quote=Chico23231;1362361]I think there is a disconnect as people think speed means separation. Freaks like desean Jax and t hill…of course it’s the speed, but most successful WR use technique and route running to gain separation.[/quote]

it's a mix for sure - most straight track guys don't do super well. Usually WRs need a move/fake or some quick change of direction to be really successful.

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I also like the fact that Luke McCaffrey is 6'2". We need taller wrs as Terry and Dotson aren't super tall although both talented. Ed McCaffrey was a pretty darn good NFL receiver for a long time. Cannot hurt at all. Interested to see what Luke can do here.

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Looks like Forbes has dropped behind Mike Davis and is running with the 2s. My unpopular prediction for camp is that Forbes is traded if we're lucky and cut if we're not.

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[quote=nonniey;1362392]Looks like Forbes has dropped behind Mike Davis and is running with the 2s. My unpopular prediction for camp is that Forbes is traded if we're lucky and cut if we're not.[/quote]

We don't have enough decent CBs to give up on a 1st pick so quickly. He needs some good coaching and confidence before we can see what he will become.
More likely Mathis, Davis, Forrest, Brown and Butler are traded/cut as they appear surplus to needs. Not that any of them will fetch much beyond a late round pick swap.

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Jayden Daniels Praised by Commanders Insiders After NFL Draft: 'Got Ourselves a Dude'

[url]https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10121549-jayden-daniels-praised-by-commanders-insiders-after-nfl-draft-got-ourselves-a-dude[/url]

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1362393]We don't have enough decent CBs to give up on a 1st pick so quickly. He needs some good coaching and confidence before we can see what he will become.
More likely Mathis, Davis, Forrest, Brown and Butler are traded/cut as they appear surplus to needs. Not that any of them will fetch much beyond a late round pick swap.[/quote]

All those guys are ahead of Forbes at this point. If the choice is any of those guys or Forbes, Forbes will be cut.

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I'm not sure Forbes is in danger of being cut given the lack of depth at the position. As for Daniels he is the reason I will be pumped on opening day. I pray, well I don't actually pray about anything, but my fear he is hurt early and we won't know what we have as we watch our season go down the drain in September. Please do not let this happen football Gods, we deserve this one.