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[quote=jamf;1358429]Chip had two 10-6 seasons with the eagles and they had top 5 offenses those two years. His last year with the eagles and one with Sf sucked be he did have some success.
He did gut the roster and they had some talent.
He wouldn’t be the head guy and would have some oversight.
Chip is a better option than EB.

I’m curious about this. I’d rather have Chip than kubiak.
Quinn and Kelly might complement each other if Quinn can control Kelly.

We would have an aggressive team across the board.[/quote]

Chip over EB all day and it’s not close

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[QUOTE=rocnrik;1358420]I'm not gonna get dragged into a name calling crap show on here .. I respect everyone's opinion that's what makes it fun ..[/QUOTE]


No name calling that I heard, but Rik man you are jumping off bridges and we have literally just gotten rid of Snyder, hired a respected GM, and interviewed every top candidate out there for HC. If our top choices (i said if) chose not to come here what the hell was Peters supposed to do? You are acting like he bought Zorn back and traded all nine of our draft choices for Ricky Williams. I mean take a deep breath and realize
Snyder is gone
Respected GM in place
9 picks - 6 in the top 100
Boatload of cap space

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[QUOTE=MTK;1358432]I was just piggybacking off what you saying[/QUOTE]


I hear you. I should have said “plan A”.

Im absolutely amped for the future. Quinn may or may not be part of it long term but I am much more concerned about roster construction and personnel and I believe with our arsenal of picks and cap money that Peters will instantly make us more competitive.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1358386]I like when I saw Phish play it Hampton 1998[/QUOTE]


Damn im embarrassed I forgot to mention Phish. That billy breathes late 90’s era was the absolute tits.

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[quote=MTK;1358434]Chip over EB all day and it’s not close[/quote]

Ok .. so you would be cool with that trick no huddle 2 minute offense the whole game ? that is what I remember about Kelly in Philly .. that and getting axed after one year at San Fran going 2-14
I just remember the players revolting against him and that crazy play calling .. there are lots of articles about him on the net ( not many outside his Oregon duck days are positive)
The day started with Quinn hire then another cowboy hire as DC now the talk of Kelly running the Offense . I Actually liked Quinn hiring a DC so he can focus 100% as head coach ( that makes me a little more on board with the hire)

Yea I would like to bring in an innovative OC with a balanced attack but I don't see Kelly doing that .. maybe you got more insight on this .

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[quote=punch it in;1358435]No name calling that I heard, but Rik man you are jumping off bridges and we have literally just gotten rid of Snyder, hired a respected GM, and interviewed every top candidate out there for HC. If our top choices (i said if) chose not to come here what the hell was Peters supposed to do? You are acting like he bought Zorn back and traded all nine of our draft choices for Ricky Williams. I mean take a deep breath and realize
Snyder is gone
Respected GM in place
9 picks - 6 in the top 100
Boatload of cap space[/quote]

Ok Reset .. The Quinn hire I can live with especially now that he has hired a DC .. that makes more sense.. I think Quinn has leadership qualities that few have .. But with the QB position the most critical of all we have to get the Offense right and that means BALANCED attack .. About the time I'm processing all this I start hearing Chip Kelly ?? PLEASE enlighten me about how this is going to work if he comes on board ( I researched his coaching career and style and it's all over the map ) I'm glad you guys are on board with all these decisions however I'm just slow at understanding what they are doing ..

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It is amazing what better talent can do for Coordinators and coaches as well as the other way around . Thank God nobody named Cerrato or Rivera or Snyder has their say in this draft/ FA period for once.

I don’t really know if I am on board with the hires and will not know until I see the results. What I do know is that there is finally someone I trust in charge of personnel decisions and we happen to have a slew of good picks and a lot of cap space. Oh and Snyder is completely out of the equation. I can guarantee you that this upcoming team will be better constructed than the current one. I have waited 25 years for this nightmare to be over. I can wait 1-3 more until Peters and co have a fair chance to craft a new team.
Quinn and possibly Kelly may or may not be part of that team in three years, but if they are not there will be better coaches in place. The days of us being stuck in first gear with an owner nobody wants to come near and piss poor roster moves and stupid contracts are over.

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You guys gotta stop using Twitter as your sources. That's seriously terrible.

Chip Kelly would be an absolute terrible hire. I just don't see a defense first coach wanting that kind of offense- that doesn't control the clock and puts the defense back on the field quickly. It makes zero sense.

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I don’t think Chip still runs the two minute offense constantly. He has definitely evolved his game.

[url]https://theathletic.com/3904954/2022/11/17/chip-kelly-ucla-offense-usc/[/url]

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[url]https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/2024/02/01/washington-commanders-ben-johnson-interview-coaching-search-nfl-lions-oc/[/url]

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Those worried about Chip Kelly are worried about the wrong things. We should be worried about:
A. At his age is he allowed to drive at night?
B. If we have a late game how will he get to the early bird at sizzler?

I don’t want to pay an OC for only the early games

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1358446]Those worried about Chip Kelly are worried about the wrong things. We should be worried about:
A. At his age is he allowed to drive at night?
B. If we have a late game how will he get to the early bird at sizzler?

I don’t want to pay an OC for only the early games[/quote]

That's funny but he is only 60. Not sure age is a concern.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1358446]Those worried about Chip Kelly are worried about the wrong things. We should be worried about:
A. At his age is he allowed to drive at night?
B. If we have a late game how will he get to the early bird at sizzler?

I don’t want to pay an OC for only the early games[/quote]

:laughing-

Do we need him to take a cognitive test as part of the interview process?

"Chip, please identify these 5 things"

"Football, sideline, camera, gatorade, helmet"

"Very nice, you're hired!"

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Quinn’s record, including the playoffs, with Shanahan as his offensive coordinator: 21-14. Quinn’s record, including the playoffs, without Shanahan calling plays and designing schemes: 25-30. Quinn's success is totally dependent on his OC choice.

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[quote=rocnrik;1358439]Ok .. so you would be cool with that trick no huddle 2 minute offense the whole game ? that is what I remember about Kelly in Philly .. that and getting axed after one year at San Fran going 2-14
I just remember the players revolting against him and that crazy play calling .. there are lots of articles about him on the net ( not many outside his Oregon duck days are positive)
The day started with Quinn hire then another cowboy hire as DC now the talk of Kelly running the Offense . I Actually liked Quinn hiring a DC so he can focus 100% as head coach ( that makes me a little more on board with the hire)

Yea I would like to bring in an innovative OC with a balanced attack but I don't see Kelly doing that .. maybe you got more insight on this .[/quote]

Not saying I want Chip, but if it’s between Chip and EB it’s an easy choice given both of their track records. EB has called plays for one very mediocre year. In 2013-2014 Chip had top 5 offenses in yards and top 10 in points.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1358447]That's funny but he is only 60. Not sure age is a concern.[/quote]

Well he's aged poorly

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Quinn had success w/ Kyle. Why not Clint Kubiak? Why not go right back to that offense that you should have won a SB with? That to me makes way more sense. Way more.

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[quote=mooby;1358448]:laughing-

Do we need him to take a cognitive test as part of the interview process?

"Chip, please identify these 5 things"

"Football, sideline, camera, [B]gatorade[/B], helmet"

"Very nice, you're hired!"[/quote]

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More importantly does he know what a gatorade stir spoon looks like? Personally I think this should be a joint responsibility for the new OC and DC. I am a firm believer you take care of the small stuff you don't have to worry about the big stuff. If we get the side line gatorade guy a spoon then Forbes will be able to play man cover and Sam will progress through reads faster. It all starts with the small stuff.

On a personal aside this moment, Leno and Norwell blocking each other and Zorn running the swinging gate play twice are moment s I like to go watch for a chuckle.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1358452]Quinn had success w/ Kyle. Why not Clint Kubiak? Why not go right back to that offense that you should have won a SB with? That to me makes way more sense. Way more.[/quote]

I too would like a young up-and-comer playcaller, but if he is successful we'd have to deal with potentially watching him leave in a few years and replacing him. That's one of those good problems to have though.

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[quote=MTK;1358434]Chip over EB all day and it’s not close[/quote]
i totally agree not even close nobody is banging on EB door for an OC job our they?

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[quote=mooby;1358455]I too would like a young up-and-comer playcaller, but if he is successful we'd have to deal with potentially watching him leave in a few years and replacing him. That's one of those good problems to have though.[/quote]

That's a damn good problem to have. I'd like to have those problems.

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There is a reason why EB wasn't called for HC Interviews... Also why didn't LV or ATL hire him as an OC? Hmmm

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Mike Garafolo on Ben Johnson: “He wouldn’t have gotten the job anyway”

[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2024/2/2/24054182/all-atwitter-2-february-2024-mike-garafolo-on-ben-johnson-he-wouldnt-have-gotten-the-job-anyway[/url]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1358462]Mike Garafolo on Ben Johnson: “He wouldn’t have gotten the job anyway”

[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2024/2/2/24054182/all-atwitter-2-february-2024-mike-garafolo-on-ben-johnson-he-wouldnt-have-gotten-the-job-anyway[/url][/quote]

I can't tell if this is spin from the FO or legit. I could see it both ways.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1358463]I can't tell if this is spin from the FO or legit. I could see it both ways.[/quote]

I would believe this as a FO spin had Johnson withdrawn from consideration after the second interview. However, the way he withdrew was just odd, not to mention the fact that Detroit didn't give him any monetary incentives to stay with the team.

I believe JP tweeted this speculation right after the news broke.

There were also a lot of rumblings on or about the week of the conference championship game that Johnson was not a sure deal.

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I voted to wait and see the coordinators Quinn hires. That is very important to the success of any HC. Does anyone know if there will be a committee involved in these decisions?

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What will Peters and Harris' role be in hiring the coordinators does that fall exclusively under the purview of Quinn?

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If Harris, after hiring Peters and Quinn, has a strong role in hiring coordinators, that would be a red flag.


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It’s possible the best move Peters has made so far is not pushing all the chips in on Ben Johnson. The admiring profile of Johnson that someone posted a week or two ago, if you read it carefully, was really all about the success of Campbell-Johnson, not Johnson alone.


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[quote=Ruhskins;1358464]I would believe this as a FO spin had Johnson withdrawn from consideration after the second interview. However, the way he withdrew was just odd, not to mention the fact that Detroit didn't give him any monetary incentives to stay with the team.

I believe JP tweeted this speculation right after the news broke.

There were also a lot of rumblings on or about the week of the conference championship game that Johnson was not a sure deal.[/quote]

This.

If Ben Johnson doesn’t want to be a HC, that’s perfectly fine. But just communicate that up front.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1358452]Quinn had success w/ Kyle. Why not Clint Kubiak? Why not go right back to that offense that you should have won a SB with? That to me makes way more sense. Way more.[/quote]

I’m hoping for a San Fran coordinator or someone from the Shanny tree.

Zone Run game with good play action pass game.


Too me Chip Kelly is another thot

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1358463]I can't tell if this is spin from the FO or legit. I could see it both ways.[/quote]

I'm trying to move myself up from the hate it vote to something more positive, so I'm going w/ legit. We didn't want that bussey Johnson here anyways.

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The more I read and as info comes out it really sounds like we dodged a bullet with Johnson . All along my pick to Head the team was never an inexperienced Young Coordinator ( Vrabel was my choice ) Quinn is the same type as Vrabel . Seems Quinn Wanted to be here! the fact the Quinn got a DC makes it even better !! Blessing in disguise so to speak ! I totally got caught up in the Negativity of the Quinn hire ( they are melting down on bleacher report) lot of guys spin it that we got fleeced and was left with our last choice .. that is not true, he was always in the top running. The number one priority is leadership and he has it ! Now to see where they go on O ..

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They did that man so fucking dirty. Couldn't even give the poor guy a damn spoon. Man Snyder was a giant fuck-stick.

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CBS Sports graded the hiring of Dan Quinn a D+. That was an unwarranted insult IMO. Two egregious losses in his career have caused people to go overboard in their criticism of Quinn. How many of the coaches who were hired as HC in this cycle have taken a team to the Super Bowl as a HC? I admit that I'm not jumping for joy with this hire but I'm not about to insult the man or the people who hired him. Let's give him a chance to succeed here. Meanwhile, Peters can load up on talent.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1358466]What will Peters and Harris' role be in hiring the coordinators does that fall exclusively under the purview of Quinn?[/quote]

Hopefully Harris' role was simply to set the budge for staffing hires, then get out of the way. If any more money is possibly needed, then run it up the flag-pole. Otherwise, hopefully he isn't part of the process. Peters and Quinn can work together on that.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1358477]CBS Sports graded the hiring of Dan Quinn a D+. That was an unwarranted insult IMO. Two egregious losses in his career have caused people to go overboard in their criticism of Quinn. How many of the coaches who were hired as HC in this cycle have taken a team to the Super Bowl as a HC? I admit that I'm not jumping for joy with this hire but I'm not about to insult the man or the people who hired him. Let's give him a chance to succeed here. Meanwhile, Peters can load up on talent.[/quote]

This dude has "C" hire written all over him. Anything lower than that is a bit much. But opinions are like assholes and elbows, we all got em.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1358473]I'm trying to move myself up from the hate it vote to something more positive, so I'm going w/ legit. We didn't want that bussey Johnson here anyways.[/quote]

In terms of how most hiring trends it is unconventional in that he seems to be more of the same. Recently it seems teams drafting a QB pair with a young HC that was an innovative coordinator. This is why I said it depends on the coordinators. A retread also banking their entire HC career on a team that is so far from being relevant is also unconventional. He has a small window to try to make this happen and if it doesn't succeed he is probably a career coordinator from here on out. Watching Quinn's interviews I don't feel he has the arrogance or cockiness that some hot shit has and thinks they have a magic button and will turn this franchise around. He knows it will involve turmoil and might not succeed.

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[quote=rocnrik;1358474]The more I read and as info comes out it really sounds like we dodged a bullet with Johnson . All along my pick to Head the team was never an inexperienced Young Coordinator ( Vrabel was my choice ) Quinn is the same type as Vrabel . Seems Quinn Wanted to be here! the fact the Quinn got a DC makes it even better !! Blessing in disguise so to speak ! I totally got caught up in the Negativity of the Quinn hire ( they are melting down on bleacher report) lot of guys spin it that we got fleeced and was left with our last choice .. that is not true, he was always in the top running. The number one priority is leadership and he has it ! Now to see where they go on O ..[/quote]

I'm so tired of Ben Johnson. Dude has beta male ( Norv Turner) written all over him.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1358475]They did that man so fucking dirty. Couldn't even give the poor guy a damn spoon. Man Snyder was a giant fuck-stick.

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