Re: Fire Ron Rivera Now - Post Game Thread
 

Just get the 2 of them the fuck outta here. Not saying hand eb the job either but I can't do RR or JDR a second fuckin longer

Re: Fire Ron Rivera Now - Post Game Thread
 

[quote=Meks;1348276]Just get the 2 of them the fuck outta here. Not saying hand eb the job either but I can't do RR or JDR a second fuckin longer[/quote]

Right there with ya.

Re: Most disgusting game ever postgame fire everyone thread.
 

[quote=Redskins247;1348164]This is where I'm at as well...the new ownership should let the league know that anyone on this team can be traded...especially if we could get a #1 pick for someone like Payne or Allen or even Terry. They are not making a big enough difference here anyway and this team is going nowhere this year.[/quote]

I wouldn't entertain trading Terry.

This is my short list of players (2024 free agents), for whom we might actually get something more than a ham sandwich:

Curtis Samuel
Kendall Fuller
Chase Young
Montez Sweat
Antonio Gibson
Kamren Curl

Re: Fire Ron Rivera Now - Post Game Thread
 

I think Ron has the respect of a lot of people league wide, and he is a professional coach in terms of how he conducts himself. With that being said I've lost confidence in his ability to lead this team. JDR should've been long gone, Ron has too much loyalty to the people he likes.

[url]https://twitter.com/RefTheDistrict/status/1710296833052811318[/url]

51 games as a HC and we have led at halftime in 15 of those games. It's unfathomably bad. I think the only reason Ron has lasted this long is a weird set of circumstances and his professionalism.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1348290]I think Ron has the respect of a lot of people league wide, and he is a professional coach in terms of how he conducts himself. With that being said I've lost confidence in his ability to lead this team. JDR should've been long gone, Ron has too much loyalty to the people he likes.

[url]https://twitter.com/RefTheDistrict/status/1710296833052811318[/url]

51 games as a HC and we have led at halftime in 15 of those games. It's unfathomably bad. I think the only reason Ron has lasted this long is a weird set of circumstances and his professionalism.[/QUOTE]


So he is a nice guy with good manners. Awesome. Now let’s get an actual HC.
He is terribly unprepared week after week after month after year.

Fire Ron Rivera Now - Post Game Thread
 

[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1348242]When a defense gives up 40 points, they are all lost, especially their leader.

Like I said, Forbes is an easy target, but he is by no means the problem. He needs to be coached up, he needs to be communicated to, and he needs to play.[/QUOTE]


Forbes isn’t the problem. Ron is the problem for selecting him in the first round. I liked the pick, I won’t pretend I didn’t. What I don’t like is that I trusted that this regime took the right guy. Fool me once shame on me, fool me twice get the fuck out. Lol.
Id be able to deal with the fact that he is going to take time, if there was any other pick even contributing slightly. We were/are not in a position to draft projects and versatile players/ depth. We needed more than one plug and play. They are all over the league right now.

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[quote=mooby;1348290]I think Ron has the respect of a lot of people league wide, and he is a professional coach in terms of how he conducts himself. With that being said I've lost confidence in his ability to lead this team. JDR should've been long gone, Ron has too much loyalty to the people he likes.

[url]https://twitter.com/RefTheDistrict/status/1710296833052811318[/url]

51 games as a HC and we have led at halftime in 15 of those games. It's unfathomably bad. I think the only reason Ron has lasted this long is a weird set of circumstances and his professionalism.[/quote]

I saw that tweet. That is 27% of games. Of the 41 games losing or tied. I’d like to know how many are tied. It is a bit disingenuous to lump tied in with losing. I could go look but not going to waste time doing that. My guess is that we are trailing in about 60% of games which is pretty bad.

I did just revisit this season trailing at half time in 4 of 5 games. One game winning at half was Eagles game

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This season is so all over the map.

2-0…..

Blown out by a good team we suck….

We went toe to toe with a Super Bowl team….

Blown out by a bad team we really suck….

Judging by this pattern we should win our next three.

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I wouldn’t trade 17 , id get him help on the outside and move Dotson to the slot.

Everyone else is on the table for a trade imo. Our DL is supposed to be top 5 and they play like mid level. It’s annoying as fuck


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Get rid of Young!! He sucks, he’s a bum!! STFU!!

Per Keim:

Chase Young had a pass rush win rate of 42.9 percent in the second half Thursday according to ESPN Stats & Information. Was constantly near the QB. For context: he's at 18.6 percent for the season (15th among DE's with at least 50 pass rushes).

Re: Fire Ron Rivera Now - Post Game Thread
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;1348304]Get rid of Young!! He sucks, he’s a bum!! STFU!!

Per Keim:

Chase Young had a pass rush win rate of 42.9 percent in the second half Thursday according to ESPN Stats & Information. Was constantly near the QB. For context: he's at 18.6 percent for the season (15th among DE's with at least 50 pass rushes).[/quote]

Have you seen our QB play? He should be working at Jiffy Lube.
Jiffy Lube is the king of garbage time stats!

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Vincent Rivera(nephew) is linebackers coach.
Vieselmeyer (head coach catholic HS) is our Dbs coach.
We got fucking bums. The good ole boy network always brings us down.

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[quote=jamf;1348305]Have you seen our QB play? He should be working at Jiffy Lube.
Jiffy Lube is the king of garbage time stats![/quote]

You should be working at Jiffy Lube, you don't know shit about QB's.

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I've never heard any coach say...[they were gassed]what the Hell??? that's for lack of conditioning which falls on the coaching staff, Mr. Harris and Co. I'm sure will fix this after the season...did anyone notice the look on Magic's face during the game...HE WASN'T SMILING...Rivera's ass is toast and good riddance!!

Re: Fire Ron Rivera Now - Post Game Thread
 

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1348304]Get rid of Young!! He sucks, he’s a bum!! STFU!!

Per Keim:

Chase Young had a pass rush win rate of 42.9 percent in the second half Thursday according to ESPN Stats & Information. Was constantly near the QB. For context: he's at 18.6 percent for the season (15th among DE's with at least 50 pass rushes).[/QUOTE]


Who is saying he is a bum? That being said for the number 2 overall pick id like him in the top 5. Lol

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Saw an article on FB suggesting Harris was embarrassed (or should have been) by that performance. I can't see how that's not the final nail in the coffin for Ron. The question is how much embarrassment can he take before enough is enough. I can't help thinking, going to the end of the season proves nothing, even if they can turn the season around enough to compete. Ron can't be anything but fired now, so why wait?

Re: Fire Ron Rivera Now - Post Game Thread
 

[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1348317]Saw an article on FB suggesting Harris was embarrassed (or should have been) by that performance. I can't see how that's not the final nail in the coffin for Ron. The question is how much embarrassment can he take before enough is enough. I can't help thinking, going to the end of the season proves nothing, even if they can turn the season around enough to compete. Ron can't be anything but fired now, so why wait?[/QUOTE]


I think he doesn’t wanna seem like an impatient dude like Snyder. But this isn’t Marty after one year. This is Ron coming up short for four years. It would be a good move imo because you are winning 6-7 games tops as it stands.

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I can see the patience factor, but in his shoes I'd be thinking 1 more loss like that, maybe 2, and I'd have no choice but to pull the trigger. I'd also have an eye on the trade window and FA market. We could potentially upgrade a couple of positions, particularly OL, but the longer RR is in place, the less likely that is (if he was going to make a move he'd have done it by now). If he hopes to have a decent season he has to fire RR & JDR soon. If he has more of an eye on next season, they may last until game 17. But they're lame ducks now, so I can't see the point waiting. And with EB the logical interim, if not full replacement, that's got to be creating an unhealthy dynamic?

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[quote=punch it in;1348318]I think he doesn’t wanna seem like an impatient dude like Snyder. But this isn’t Marty after one year. This is Ron coming up short for four years. It would be a good move imo because you are winning 6-7 games tops as it stands.[/quote]

Ron has came up short most of his career except for a few seasons in Carolina and one super bowl appearance:

[url]https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/RiveRo0.htm[/url]

3 times only in 13 years as HC with double digit wins. One super bowl appearance.

I will never understand how everyone talked him up coming in here like he was some game changer and world beater. Obviously he was the "best of the worst" to be able to work for Dan Snyder and everyone knows that, but why was there so much talk that he was going to "finally" be the right coach to turn things around? Was it just more recycled hope that our next HC would be the one that finally broke the cycle?

The man has done nothing since coming here. He is regularly outsmarted and out schemed. His favorite thing to do this season is stand on the sideline with his arms crossed while we suffer blowout losses.

I am in the opinion of others here that waiting until the end of the season to fire Ron is pointless. It's obvious that he was not going to survive the ownership takeover. Josh Harris and company firing Ron now is not the same as Dan firing Marty mid season. Josh is not Dan, and Ron Rivera sure as hell isn't Marty. If the ownership knows at this point that guys are not going to be here, go on and cut their losses and move us all forward.

Re: Fire Ron Rivera Now - Post Game Thread
 

[quote=AnonEmouse;1348322]I can see the patience factor, but in his shoes I'd be thinking 1 more loss like that, maybe 2, and I'd have no choice but to pull the trigger. I'd also have an eye on the trade window and FA market. We could potentially upgrade a couple of positions, particularly OL, but the longer RR is in place, the less likely that is (if he was going to make a move he'd have done it by now). If he hopes to have a decent season he has to fire RR & JDR soon. If he has more of an eye on next season, they may last until game 17. But they're lame ducks now, so I can't see the point waiting. And with EB the logical interim, if not full replacement, that's got to be creating an unhealthy dynamic?[/quote]

he has to has some feelers out there to see what GM is available . . .

Re: Fire Ron Rivera Now - Post Game Thread
 

I kinda can't believe these clowns are still employed 🤡🤦🤦🤢

Re: Fire Ron Rivera Now - Post Game Thread
 

I have it on good authority that Jeff Saturday is available.

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I'm thinking Ben Johnson has to be on the radar.

Re: Fire Ron Rivera Now - Post Game Thread
 

IT is probably time to move on, we'll see how the season plays out, but feels like we're aiming for 8-9 or something right now.

Re: Fire Ron Rivera Now - Post Game Thread
 

Per Grant Paulsen tweet:

The Commanders through 5 games during Rivera era:

Year 1: 1-4, -33 PTS
Year 2: 2-3, -32 PTS
Year 3: 1-4, -38 PTS
Year 4: 2-3, -51 PTS

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Pedersen - has the Jags playing well.
Campbell - has the Lions playing well.
Ryans - has the Texans playing better than expected.
McVay - has the Rams playing better than expected.

New (even if new to their teams) or young coaches showing how bad our coaching situation is right now.


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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1348346]Per Grant Paulsen tweet:

The Commanders through 5 games during Rivera era:

Year 1: 1-4, -33 PTS
Year 2: 2-3, -32 PTS
Year 3: 1-4, -38 PTS
Year 4: 2-3, -51 PTS[/QUOTE]


Basically it’s not getting any better in fact it’s worse


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1348351]Basically it’s not getting any better in fact it’s worse

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Dude is worse than mediocre. Time to go!

Re: Fire Ron Rivera Now - Post Game Thread
 

Ron is just cashing checks and doing favors for family.
It’s infuriating we have to deal with this for 12 more weeks.

I can’t imagine Harris firing Ron till the end of the season.
EB f…ed up taking this job. He looks to be one and done here.

Re: Fire Ron Rivera Now - Post Game Thread
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1348346]Per Grant Paulsen tweet:

The Commanders through 5 games during Rivera era:

Year 1: 1-4, -33 PTS
Year 2: 2-3, -32 PTS
Year 3: 1-4, -38 PTS
Year 4: 2-3, -51 PTS[/quote]

Yes but if you look at those numbers upside down in a mirror they are trending in the right direction. You are just being negative

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Yeah, from my perspective the benefits of keeping Ron and Jack until the end of the season are diminishing rapidly, and the new owners have to have one eye on maximising the boost to the fanbase that the sale ignited. 12 more weeks like this and they could be back to half empty stadiums

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Have none of the beat guys challenged Ron on making his nephew the LB coach? I wasn't even aware of this until now but if I was the new owner this would be a day 1 issue. For all his protestations about wanting to win Ron sure does a lot of favours to friends and family, I am convinced the only reason Scott Turner got the OC job, and kept it way longer than he should, was a favour to his buddy Norv.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1348402]Yeah, from my perspective the benefits of keeping Ron and Jack until the end of the season are diminishing rapidly, and the new owners have to have one eye on maximising the boost to the fanbase that the sale ignited. [/quote]

Concur. Currently, the staff are bordering on lame duck status. The next four games are extremely crucial for the staff IMO.

[quote]12 more weeks like this and they could be back to half empty stadiums[/quote]

They shouldn't get twelve more weeks if they flub it up the next four games.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1348402]Yeah, from my perspective the benefits of keeping Ron and Jack until the end of the season are diminishing rapidly, and the new owners have to have one eye on maximising the boost to the fanbase that the sale ignited. 12 more weeks like this and they could be back to half empty stadiums[/quote]

They have definitely hit their sell by date

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I want coaching changes as much as everyone else but unless Josh is completely sold on EB being next head coach, he still has to find a GM and whatever head coach takes over they’ll want their own assistants and that all takes time. Just not sure how much immediate success can be expected by firing everyone at this stage of the season. That said, I hope fires every MF’er before sundown lol.

Re: Fire Ron Rivera Now - Post Game Thread
 

[quote=Dlyne8r;1348428]I want coaching changes as much as everyone else but unless Josh is completely sold on EB being next head coach, he still has to find a GM and whatever head coach takes over they’ll want their own assistants and that all takes time. Just not sure how much immediate success can be expected by firing everyone at this stage of the season. That said, I hope fires every MF’er before sundown lol.[/quote]

It's not about having immediate success imo, it's about not having to look at that stupid fucking look on Rivera's face anymore.

JDR is also doing as an amazing job as possible of doing less w/ more. No way our defense is this bad with a DC from this century.

If fired, just give the interim job to the guy w/ the most seniority on the staff with the clear message this is just interim. It would still be a nice raise for the rest of the year, so i'm sure that person would take it.

Rivera be on the sidelines during games like:

[IMG]https://media0.giphy.com/media/d7g2Wmve71MdUaKrqn/giphy.gif?cid=e3b0c442da27df4a4bf7cc850bb23ff2ea0ba8a89fe80de9&rid=giphy.gif[/IMG]

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JosinaAnderson
@JosinaAnderson
With the #Commanders coming off a 40-20 loss last week to the #Bears on TNF, I'm told as of today*, managing partner Josh Harris' perspective is to continue to allow things to play out when it comes to potential staff decisions, at this time, per source. Harris is a seasoned sports owner who is viewed internally as generally patient. I'm told one of Harris' biggest concerns now though is the impact an emotional national loss may have on ticket sales--which always has to be taken into account too. Separately, when it comes to any decisions on defensive coordinator, there's an internal impression that Ron Rivera would prefer to allow things to play out. Rivera's relationship with Del Rio goes back a while as well. A natural choice to potentially look to in the past, Chris Harris (the Commanders DB coach from 2020-2022), is now the #Titans DPGC and CB coach which factors into the equation moving forward as well. My understanding overall is that Harris does welcome consul from other owners and also understands that early searches can be beneficial if he elects to go that route, but moves like that customarily* occur closer to the beginning of the coaching carousel. Now, while I'm told some of the other limited partners have their own thoughts--and you can read between the lines there-- we'll see how things settle as the season evolves. There is still time for better results, but the clock is ticking.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1348433]JosinaAnderson
@JosinaAnderson
With the #Commanders coming off a 40-20 loss last week to the #Bears on TNF, I'm told as of today*, managing partner Josh Harris' perspective is to continue to allow things to play out when it comes to potential staff decisions, at this time, per source. Harris is a seasoned sports owner who is viewed internally as generally patient. I'm told one of Harris' biggest concerns now though is the impact an emotional national loss may have on ticket sales--which always has to be taken into account too. Separately, when it comes to any decisions on defensive coordinator, there's an internal impression that Ron Rivera would prefer to allow things to play out. Rivera's relationship with Del Rio goes back a while as well. A natural choice to potentially look to in the past, Chris Harris (the Commanders DB coach from 2020-2022), is now the #Titans DPGC and CB coach which factors into the equation moving forward as well. My understanding overall is that Harris does welcome consul from other owners and also understands that early searches can be beneficial if he elects to go that route, but moves like that customarily* occur closer to the beginning of the coaching carousel. Now, while I'm told some of the other limited partners have their own thoughts--and you can read between the lines there-- we'll see how things settle as the season evolves. There is still time for better results, but the clock is ticking.[/quote]

Magic wants those fuckers fired yesterday.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1348434]Magic wants those fuckers fired yesterday.[/quote]

You took the words right outta my mouth. Magic Johnson is a winner through and through, as well as a businessman. I suspect he's not gonna tolerate this BS much longer, and probably was ready to pull the plug after last Thursday's debacle.

The next two to four weeks is imperative for this staff.

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