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Serious … when referring to the Native American Indian What is the proper and respectful/political correct way to do so ..( not rehashing Redskin name please) I’m trying to understand why Cleveland changed the from the Indian name .. so if Indian name is wrong ..what is the proper way to refer to the American Indian ?(see I just did it .. can’t say Indian ) can I ??
I ask because with the possibility of name change and some including myself wanting to stay with some form of connection with the past Redskin days .. is the name Warriors, warpath , tribe, Native American, Cherokee, Apache, Seminole, Braves, tomahawk, Arrows, is any of that acceptable?? Or should all teams avoid any reference to native Americans? ( I understand how redskin could be viewed as offensive by some ) but surely the team should be able to come up with something that has a connection with the Native American Indian with being offensive.. or can they ??

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[quote=rocnrik;1343266]Serious … when referring to the Native American Indian What is the proper and respectful/political correct way to do so ..( not rehashing Redskin name please) I’m trying to understand why Cleveland changed the from the Indian name .. so if Indian name is wrong ..what is the proper way to refer to the American Indian ?(see I just did it .. can’t say Indian ) can I ??
I ask because with the possibility of name change and some including myself wanting to stay with some form of connection with the past Redskin days .. is the name Warriors, warpath , tribe, Native American, Cherokee, Apache, Seminole, Braves, tomahawk, Arrows, is any of that acceptable?? Or should all teams avoid any reference to native Americans? ( I understand how redskin could be viewed as offensive by some ) but surely the team should be able to come up with something that has a connection with the Native American Indian with being offensive.. or can they ??[/quote]

Native Americans

Indian only came from early settlers that thought they had landed in India.

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Thank you !!

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I'm just waiting for a group of midgets to start protesting at Giants games.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1343270]I'm just waiting for a group of midgets to start protesting at Giants games.[/quote]

Little People

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[quote=mredskins;1343272]Little People[/quote]

lol..

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[quote=skinsfan69;1343270]I'm just waiting for a group of midgets to start protesting at Giants games.[/quote]

Giants is not a derogatory term , midgets is.

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What difference a year and an Owner make.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1343273]lol..[/quote]

Little People is the "correct" term

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[quote=Giantone;1343275]What difference a year and an Owner make.

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i went last year it was busy, that top picture easily could have been way before practice or after practice

i am not saying we are not in a better just pointing out the "magic" of social crap media

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I am glad to see Snyder replaced. I have been listening to the propaganda from Harris's group. They sound just like Snyder did when he bought the team. Promises of being winners and returning the franchise to greatness. We will have to wait and see if they can succeed. But for now, there is hope.

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[quote=oldfan;1343278]I am glad to see Snyder replaced. I have been listening to the propaganda from Harris's group. They sound just like Snyder did when he bought the team. Promises of being winners and returning the franchise to greatness. We will have to wait and see if they can succeed. But for now, there is hope.[/quote]

I was too young to remember when Snyder bought the team, but I did feel like the new owners were saying things that they knew what the fans would like to hear from them.. Although I think the big difference is Harris's company bought two sports teams and then turned the teams into successful teams after the company bought them. So I think there is a light at the end of the tunnel (or at least I hope so).

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Everyone would say something similar. Harris gonna come out and say, hey, we're just going to keep the team on the same path Snyder had us on? Burn this fucker down and build it back up again.

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[quote=Giantone;1343274]Giants is not a derogatory term , midgets is.[/quote]
It doesn't have to be a derogatory term it just takes someone (anyone) taking offense. The Redskins proved that.

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[quote=oldfan;1343278]I am glad to see Snyder replaced. I have been listening to the propaganda from Harris's group. They sound just like Snyder did when he bought the team. Promises of being winners and returning the franchise to greatness. We will have to wait and see if they can succeed. But for now, there is hope.[/quote]

Only time will tell. But just from what we have seen, at least this group gives a damn about the fan base. That's apparent right from the get go. Snyder from day one made it clear he wanted to use the fan base to put more money in his pocket.

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[quote=MTK;1343245]Do we have legit polling that shows what the fan opinion on the name is?

Let’s go out and have a good season, maybe win a playoff game, see what it’s like to have actual adults running things, and then see how many people still want to bail over a name.[/quote]

Agree. I'd like to see real polling about the fan's opinion on the name.

I'm not a big fan of the name Commanders but when I look at the other names Commanders is better by a mile. The other names sound like minor league baseball teams. I see no reason to change from a so-so name to a bad one.

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Welcome Josh Harris...Finally we have adults in charge!!

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[quote=irish;1343286]Agree. I'd like to see real polling about the fan's opinion on the name.

I'm not a big fan of the name Commanders but when I look at the other names Commanders is better by a mile. The other names sound like minor league baseball teams. I see no reason to change from a so-so name to a bad one.[/quote]

My preference would be a Native American reference. But that's not going to happen. So if it does change, I'm settled on Washington Hogs as my favorite choice.

I've accepted Commanders and Snyder is gone, so I'm happy as a fucking clam. The name change isn't a priority for me. Just happy we are free from that asshole.

Training camp is FUCKING PACKED!! Fans chanting Thank you Harris!

I'm super excited for our 1st game. It's gonna be wild seeing that stadium packed w/ actual fans of our team.

LFG!!!!!

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1343289]My preference would be a Native American reference. But that's not going to happen. So if it does change, I'm settled on Washington Hogs as my favorite choice. [/quote]

How about the Washington Indigenous's? ;)

I can live with a renaming as long as it's done properly this time, and Harris shows willing to do what's needed to get the fans choice of name. i.e. Buying out image rights, donating to a school to allow us to share the name, etc. Snyder went with Commanders because it was cheap and easy. I liked Red Wings, Red Wolves, Hogs, and all would have made some kind of sense, but I'd be happy with the consensus vote as long as he listens to the fans.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1343290]How about the Washington Indigenous's? ;)

I can live with a renaming as long as it's done properly this time, and Harris shows willing to do what's needed to get the fans choice of name. i.e. Buying out image rights, donating to a school to allow us to share the name, etc. Snyder went with Commanders because it was cheap and easy. [B]I liked Red Wings, Red Wolves, Hogs, and all would have made some kind of sense[/B], but I'd be happy with the consensus vote as long as he listens to the fans.[/quote]

I don't see how Commanders was cheaper or easier than any of these other stupid names. I don't think anyone on this site has seen the details and financials of the choice.

Not sure how any of these make sense. Detroit's hockey team might take issue with Red Wings. Red Wolves makes zero sense and Hogs was an aspect of the team 30 years ago but is irrelevant now. All the good names are taken and Commanders is the best of a bad bunch.

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[quote=irish;1343291]I don't see how Commanders was cheaper or easier than any of these other stupid names. I don't think anyone on this site has seen the details and financials of the choice.

Not sure how any of these make sense. Detroit's hockey team might take issue with Red Wings. Red Wolves makes zero sense and Hogs was an aspect of the team 30 years ago but is irrelevant now. All the good names are taken and Commanders is the best of a bad bunch.[/quote]

An ode to the past glory days is not stupid. And Hogs in general are awesome animals. It makes sense w/ our past and its perfectly fine in general. It's no less stupid than any other animal name in the NFL. And it's absolutely no less stupid than Commanders.

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[quote=irish;1343291]I don't see how Commanders was cheaper or easier than any of these other stupid names. I don't think anyone on this site has seen the details and financials of the choice.

[B]Not sure how any of these make sense. Detroit's hockey team might take issue with Red Wings. Red Wolves makes zero sense and Hogs was an aspect of the team 30 years ago but is irrelevant now. All the good names are taken and Commanders is the best of a bad bunch.[/quote]
[/B]

Agree with this, Red Wolves is AWFUL... It has zero ties to the DC area. The only reason folks want it is because it has "Red" in the name.

TBH Football Team was better than Commanders but they weren't going to keep it that bland.

Commanders will grow on folks if the team can actually win games

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1343293][/B]

Agree with this, Red Wolves is AWFUL... It has zero ties to the DC area. The only reason folks want it is because it has "Red" in the name.

TBH Football Team was better than Commanders but they weren't going to keep it that bland.

[B]Commanders will grow on folks if the team can actually win games[/B][/quote]

Agree. Winning will make everything better.

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The worst part about Commanders is there is no way to shorten the name down. 99% of teams either have a short name or a hyphenated name/nickname they can use. Like the Jets, Fins, etc. Washintgon Commanders is approximately 48 letters long, go Ders!!!!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1343293][/B]

Agree with this, Red Wolves is AWFUL... It has zero ties to the DC area. The only reason folks want it is because it has "Red" in the name.

TBH Football Team was better than Commanders but they weren't going to keep it that bland.

Commanders will grow on folks if the team can actually win games[/quote]

Red wolves where definitely from the area, so they do make sense from a geographical standp;oint . . . see:

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1343300]Red wolves where definitely from the area, so they do make sense from a geographical standp;oint . . . see:

[IMG]https://www.northeastwolf.org/uploads/2/6/8/6/26868472/668037_orig.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Yes indeed. I knew that a while ago

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Every team on the east coast can be the Redwolves. I originally liked that name the most. But I think that actually takes away from the name for us. It wouldn't be original, it would just have "red" in the name.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1343290]How about the Washington Indigenous's? ;)

I can live with a renaming as long as it's done properly this time, and Harris shows willing to do what's needed to get the fans choice of name. i.e. Buying out image rights, donating to a school to allow us to share the name, etc. Snyder went with Commanders because it was cheap and easy. I liked Red Wings, Red Wolves, Hogs, and all would have made some kind of sense, but I'd be happy with the consensus vote as long as he listens to the fans.[/quote]

Ok then change it back to guess what … Redskins ! The overwhelming majority of fans want that back .. but that ain’t gonna happen so much for what the fans want ..Washington Veterans.. Vets , I love the name however I’m sure some will hate the name and the wheel goes round ……

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[quote=irish;1343291]I don't see how Commanders was cheaper or easier than any of these other stupid names. I don't think anyone on this site has seen the details and financials of the choice.

Not sure how any of these make sense. Detroit's hockey team might take issue with Red Wings. Red Wolves makes zero sense and Hogs was an aspect of the team 30 years ago but is irrelevant now. All the good names are taken and Commanders is the best of a bad bunch.[/quote]

I never really saw a point in arguing about such a highly subjective thing, but for me one somehow objective knock on Commanders, is that it was obviously chosen by Dan. If you followed the renaming process, it was never an option that gained any clout before it was leaked as a the most probable outcome.
Picking a name that makes everybody happy is just impossible, but this name, partly because of a horrendous reveal, never generated any enthusiasm (expect those that hated other option(s) and went "Thank God it's not Redwolves/Hogs/Sentinels/WhateverOptionTheyHatedTheMost"), the most "enthusiastic" reaction that I've commonly seen was "hey I can do with it, let's move on from this rebranding bullshit", so when you add on top of it the fact it was picked by Snyder, I do see how a new owner wants to press the shiny and exciting "short way to being the cool guy in town" button.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1343303]Every team on the east coast can be the Redwolves. I originally liked that name the most. But I think that actually takes away from the name for us. It wouldn't be original, it would just have "red" in the name.[/QUOTE]


I like the fact that it would be the only canine mascot in the NFL (and if you don’t like dogs, I’ve got nothing for you).

Woof.


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Washington is known for politics and being nations capital … those names have been taken .. capitals,nationals,senators, still don’t understand the wizards name.. that leaves very few options in that line of thinking .. Monuments but that sucks for a name .. back to the Native American theme .. warriors.. I always liked that! Warpath ain’t horrible , but I don’t like adding Red to the name .. Washington Apache,Comanche( not much better than Commanders) .. it’s not gonna be easy to come up with THE obvious name brand .. with so many names allready taken ..if my memory is correct the final list of names were all bad .. and while Danny boy owned the team any name he chose would be frowned upon .. I believe that a winning team is the answer .. I refer to the team as Washington and the nickname is something that once we win it will be acceptable..

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abe pollin didn't like bullets re: gun violence etc. I believe that went through a fan vote of sorts, and there's at least some alliteration. I wasn't mad about that (not a hardcore basketball fan either though).

random thought: Washington Magic would be a truly awful name, but in a way that's also pretty funny. "Gotta go get me some of that washintgon magic."

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Native American group threatens boycott 'similar to Anheuser Busch' if Commanders ignore name petition

[url]https://katu.com/news/nation-world/native-american-group-threatens-boycott-similar-to-anheuser-busch-if-commanders-ignore-name-petition-washington-redskins-nfl-football-sports-news-updates-bud-light-busch[/url]

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1343462]Native American group threatens boycott 'similar to Anheuser Busch' if Commanders ignore name petition

[url]https://katu.com/news/nation-world/native-american-group-threatens-boycott-similar-to-anheuser-busch-if-commanders-ignore-name-petition-washington-redskins-nfl-football-sports-news-updates-bud-light-busch[/url][/quote]

So fucking glad Snyder is gone. Don't want him anywhere near this subject.

This isn't going anywhere. The Redskins name is gone forever. This shit is ridiculous.

60k signatures, lol. Also, lol, at thinking the name change had anything to do with how actual Native American's felt about the name, overall. The only votes that mattered were white liberals that think they're heroes for Native Americans and the small minority of Native Americans that didn't like the name. The one group that absolutely didn't matter (and the only one that should actually matter): The overwhelmingly wide majority of Native Americans that were indifferent of the name at worst or supportive of it. They simply didn't get it. White liberals and a small minority of Native American's know better.

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Harris and co might be wise to squash this name thing asap. Just say we’re rolling with Commanders or say we’re going to investigate a new name but Redskins is 100% off the table. We’re fine with using the term in a historical sense, but we’re not going backwards on this.

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[quote=rocnrik;1343312]Washington is known for politics and being nations capital … those names have been taken .. capitals,nationals,senators, still don’t understand the wizards name.. that leaves very few options in that line of thinking .. Monuments but that sucks for a name .. back to the Native American theme .. warriors.. I always liked that! Warpath ain’t horrible , but I don’t like adding Red to the name .. Washington Apache,Comanche( not much better than Commanders) .. it’s not gonna be easy to come up with THE obvious name brand .. with so many names allready taken ..if my memory is correct the final list of names were all bad .. and while Danny boy owned the team any name he chose would be frowned upon .. I believe that a winning team is the answer .. I refer to the team as Washington and the nickname is something that once we win it will be acceptable..[/quote]

Any sort of tie to NA just isn’t going to happen. That’s why warriors didn’t fly.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1343462]Native American group threatens boycott 'similar to Anheuser Busch' if Commanders ignore name petition

[url]https://katu.com/news/nation-world/native-american-group-threatens-boycott-similar-to-anheuser-busch-if-commanders-ignore-name-petition-washington-redskins-nfl-football-sports-news-updates-bud-light-busch[/url][/quote]

Changing back to Redskins will never be an option. That shipped sailed. Maybe, just maybe they should have spoken up more loudly back in the days. Time to move forward.

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[quote=MTK;1343478]Harris and co might be wise to squash this name thing asap. Just say we’re rolling with Commanders or say we’re going to investigate a new name but Redskins is 100% off the table. We’re fine with using the term in a historical sense, but we’re not going backwards on this.[/quote]


This.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1343492]Changing back to Redskins will never be an option. That shipped sailed. Maybe, just maybe they should have spoken up more loudly back in the days. Time to move forward.[/quote]

I agree. Just thought the article was interesting. I don't remember seeing any Native American organization so adamant about keeping or bringing back the Redskins name.