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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1248815]2: R1p2 - edge chase young - ohio state
66: R3p2 - wr laviska shenault jr. - colorado
108: R4p2 - s ashtyn davis - california
142: R4p36 - te thaddeus moss - lsu
162: R5p16 - cb troy pride jr. - notre dame
216: R7p2 - ot jack driscoll - auburn
229: R7p15 - ot terence steele - texas tech[/quote]

I'd be shocked if Shenault lasted that long, hes got a 1st rd grade

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1248817]I'd be shocked if Shenault lasted that long, hes got a 1st rd grade[/quote]

Wasn't really looking for a WR but couldn't pass him up there.

All you can do is pick the guys that are available in the draft you're doing. He was there so I picked him.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1248818]Wasn't really looking for a WR but couldn't pass him up there.

All you can do is pick the guys that are available in the draft you're doing. He was there so I picked him.[/quote]

No doubt, it would be great for sure

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1248817]I'd be shocked if Shenault lasted that long, hes got a 1st rd grade[/quote]


He's also got durability issues, and I think he's having surgery post combine, for a core issue he dealt with there.

Given the lock down on all things, and the inability for teams own docs to do tests on players, I wouldn't be shocked at all if this kid dropped quite a bit.

Here's his NFL draft & combine profile ... [url]https://www.nfl.com/prospects/laviska-shenaultjr.?id=32195348-4545-8893-4e8b-5724302de088[/url]

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The Redskins are hosting a virtual draft party with Haskins as part of it. I think drafting a QB is out. That would be so messed up.

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I don’t think drafting a QB was ever in


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"We were all in on Cooper until the end, Ron said today in a conference call, never pursuid Hooper"

Keim

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Would much rather have had Hooper at 12 million than Cooper at 22 million. Cooper is a luxury with McLaurin. Hooper is a bonafide need and still is. Think we still need 2 more guys at TE. A starter and 1 more guy battling for 2nd/3rd string.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1248940]Would much rather have had Hooper at 12 million than Cooper at 22 million. Cooper is a luxury with McLaurin. Hooper is a bonafide need and still is. Think we still need 2 more guys at TE. A starter and 1 more guy battling for 2nd/3rd string.[/QUOTE]He also said he likes Logan Thomas a lot.. Fwiw

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"This will take some time, by my 3rd year with Carolina we were on the up and up"

Basically telling us all to be patient

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1248941]He also said he likes Logan Thomas a lot.. Fwiw

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He got a decent contract so I assume he's making the team. All the other guys are JAGs. Still need a legit starter and someone to give Sprinkle some competition for the 3rd TE on the roster.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1248943]He got a decent contract so I assume he's making the team. All the other guys are JAGs. Still need a legit starter and someone to give Sprinkle some competition for the 3rd TE on the roster.[/quote]

You don't think Rodgers has any shot?

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we need to add 2 draft picks at TE

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Jp Finlay "fans need to understand this team is probably not going to compete this yr"

Nothing we all didn't realize already.. The roster is garbage other than DL and Terry.

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[quote=Number44;1248944]You don't think Rodgers has any shot?[/quote]

I think he can compete for the 3rd TE spot. But he hasn't done much recently. We need more competition there.

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Richard Rodgers sucks lol. Dude hasnt been good in years and really only had one solid season with one of the best QBs ever. Unless Thomas turns into Kelce we are going to be really bad on O again. Expect a ton of short yardage throws to Terry and the RBs.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1248948]Richard Rodgers sucks lol. Dude hasnt been good in years and really only had one solid season with one of the best QBs ever. Unless Thomas turns into Kelce we are going to be really bad on O again. Expect a ton of short yardage throws to Terry and the RBs.

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If Thomas is our starting TE that would be beyond absurd. Our 3rd or 1st 4th round choice should be a TE if he is anywhere near BPA.

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1248356]As a Louisville Cardinal season ticket holder (both football and basketball - and hence the name Pervis - Griffith (combo of the Cardinal hoop stars Pervis Ellison, and Darrell Griffith)) this is the best news of the day.

How the mighty have fallen.[/quote]


Well THIS is pretty funny. Vegas just issued new lines for next season's college football games ...

My Louisville Cardinals have jumped to a 4 point favorite over the Kentucky Mildcats.

The Greg Manusky Effect in full force I guess.

The Skins D will have to improve simply by removing that clown. Right??


[url]https://twitter.com/rickbozich/status/1248258782376988672?s=20[/url]

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1249020]Well THIS is pretty funny. Vegas just issued new lines for next season's college football games ...

My Louisville Cardinals have jumped to a 4 point favorite over the Kentucky Mildcats.

The Greg Manusky Effect in full force I guess.

The Skins D will have to improve simply by removing that clown. Right??


[url]https://twitter.com/rickbozich/status/1248258782376988672?s=20[/url][/quote]

We'd improve if we let a high school coach run our defense.

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[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29018495/sources-rams-trading-brandin-cooks-texans[/url]

Wtf...Texans trading for brandin cooks..

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[quote=Chico23231;1249046][url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29018495/sources-rams-trading-brandin-cooks-texans[/url]

Wtf...Texans trading for brandin cooks..[/quote]

And we can’t even get a 2nd for Trent W?

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SIAP... Breeland resigns 1-year contract with KC

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The Texans guy reminds me of some of the clowns in my fantasy league.

The sad thing is, we could've easily taken advantage of that last year .... <start.beat.dead.horse>but our front office wouldn't pull the trigger when we had the most leverage<end.beat.dead.horse>.

Now we're like John Candy in Planes Trains and Automobiles ... trying to get a hotel room with 2 dollars and a casio.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hlhfu9-5jHM[/url]

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I can’t believe how dumb the Texans are...it’s incredible.

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1249051]The Texans guy reminds me of some of the clowns in my fantasy league.

The sad thing is, we could've easily taken advantage of that last year .... <start.beat.dead.horse>but our front office wouldn't pull the trigger when we had the most leverage<end.beat.dead.horse>.

Now we're like John Candy in Planes Trains and Automobiles ... trying to get a hotel room with 2 dollars and a casio.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hlhfu9-5jHM[/url][/quote]

He's like that guy in a fantasy league that wheels and deals all year and finishes in last place

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I think Hopkins wanted a new deal was the trigger. I think Obrien just wanted him moved so it wouldnt linger. But you cant do that for high end young talent.

I dont know how hard he was pushing .. we kinda did the same thing with Dunbar (although several tiers below Hopkins so you can move a malcontent like Dunbar without getting push back)

Kinda like cutting your nose off despite your face. Yes you didnt want discord growing from Hopkins but just moving for a 2nd ... you caused more discord by moving him vs keeping him and dealing with whatever headache may arise.

Trents situation is the outlier ... and you see what can happen if you dont move a disgruntled talent.

You end up paying him half his salary anyway, he plays zero downs for you, he gets 1 year older and less valuable ... and there is the periodic agent comment or leak meant to make your organization look incompetent.

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[quote=SunnySide;1249111]I think Hopkins wanted a new deal was the trigger. I think Obrien just wanted him moved so it wouldnt linger. But you cant do that for high end young talent.

I dont know how hard he was pushing .. we kinda did the same thing with Dunbar (although several tiers below Hopkins so you can move a malcontent like Dunbar without getting push back)

Kinda like cutting your nose off despite your face. Yes you didnt want discord growing from Hopkins but just moving for a 2nd ... you caused more discord by moving him vs keeping him and dealing with whatever headache may arise.

Trents situation is the outlier ... and you see what can happen if you dont move a disgruntled talent.

You end up paying him half his salary anyway, he plays zero downs for you, he gets 1 year older and less valuable ... and there is the periodic agent comment or leak meant to make your organization look incompetent.[/quote]

I don't necessarily think trading him was the issue, it was the shitty ass return. Cardinals stole a top 5 NFL receiver. C'mon Bill! Get it together. I want the Texans to be good. Be the best team in Texas.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1249113]I don't necessarily think trading him was the issue, it was the shitty ass return. Cardinals stole a top 5 NFL receiver. C'mon Bill! Get it together. I want the Texans to be good. Be the best team in Texas.[/quote]

I think OBrien pulled the trigger to early but who knows how strong Hopkins team was in demanding a new deal or trade.

if that was the best deal available after a few weeks of fielding calls ... I guess he felt he wanted to move Hopkins vs dealing with a hold out/headache/possible Trent situation.

Hopkins wanting a new deal or trade = shitty deal.

Hindsight, Im guessing Obrien wished he held tight and see how things truly unfolded vs his perception of how they would unfold.

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Can't help thinking Hopkins has been on top 5 form, so why not just pay him commensurate with that? I suspect there was a little more than 'pay me or trade me'.

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[quote=SunnySide;1249119]I think OBrien pulled the trigger to early but who knows how strong Hopkins team was in demanding a new deal or trade.

[B]if that was the best deal available after a few weeks of fielding calls ... I guess he felt he wanted to move Hopkins vs dealing with a hold out/headache/possible Trent situation.[/B]

Hopkins wanting a new deal or trade = shitty deal.

Hindsight, Im guessing Obrien wished he held tight and see how things truly unfolded vs his perception of how they would unfold.[/quote]

I just can't bring myself to believe that was the case. I just think that Bill O'Brien is a horrible GM because that deal was atrocious by any standard. The fact that he took on a huge salary/cap obligation for a fading RB who just had a bad season makes no sense to me whatsoever.

Now, he has just made [U]another[/U] horrible deal with LAR for an overpaid WR with a poor injury history and inconsistent production instead or using that 2nd Round pick on a younger, cheaper WR in a deep WR class.

The problem is Bill O'Brien and not any circumstances that were imposed on him. He simply SUCKS as a GM.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1249120]Can't help thinking Hopkins has been on top 5 form, so why not just pay him commensurate with that? I suspect there was a little more than 'pay me or trade me'.[/quote]

Yeah I agree. Perhaps Michael Irvins report that OBrien didnt like how much control Hopkins had in the locker room was accurate and that when OBrien had a meeting with Hopkins, it didnt go well (Aaron Hernandez etc).

Hopkins, to his credit, said he had nothing but respect for OBrien but he didnt refute the accuracy or deny Irvin's report of the meeting.

Who knows.

Not our mess or dysfunction.

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I woulda sent Trent and maybe one of our 4th rounders...given Hopkins the Amari contract.

Hopkins is a better WR than Coop.

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I'm bored, all offensive draft:

2: R1P2 - OT ANDREW THOMAS - GEORGIA
66: R3P2 - WR CHASE CLAYPOOL - NOTRE DAME
108: R4P2 - C MATT HENNESSY - TEMPLE
142: R4P36 - TE DEVIN ASIASI - UCLA
162: R5P16 - OT COLTON MCKIVITZ - WEST VIRGINIA
216: R7P2 - G CAMERON CLARK - CHARLOTTE
229: R7P15 - TE CHEYENNE O'GRADY - ARKANSAS

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1249169]I'm bored, all offensive draft:

2: R1P2 - OT ANDREW THOMAS - GEORGIA
66: R3P2 - WR CHASE CLAYPOOL - NOTRE DAME
108: R4P2 - C MATT HENNESSY - TEMPLE
142: R4P36 - TE DEVIN ASIASI - UCLA
162: R5P16 - OT COLTON MCKIVITZ - WEST VIRGINIA
216: R7P2 - G CAMERON CLARK - CHARLOTTE
229: R7P15 - TE CHEYENNE O'GRADY - ARKANSAS[/quote]


are you sober?

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Defensive:

2: R1P2 - EDGE CHASE YOUNG - OHIO ST.
66: R3P2 - CB CAMERON DANTZLER - MISS. STATE
108: R4P2 - LB JORDYN BROOKS - TEXAS TECH
142: R4P36 - S J.R. REED - GEORGIA
162: R5P16 - CB JOSIAH SCOTT - MICHIGAN ST.
216: R7P2 - S ERIC LEE JR. - NEBRASKA
229: R7P15 - LB FRANCIS BERNARD - UTAH

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1249171]Defensive:

2: R1P2 - EDGE CHASE YOUNG - OHIO ST.
66: R3P2 - CB CAMERON DANTZLER - MISS. STATE
108: R4P2 - LB JORDYN BROOKS - TEXAS TECH
142: R4P36 - S J.R. REED - GEORGIA
162: R5P16 - CB JOSIAH SCOTT - MICHIGAN ST.
216: R7P2 - S ERIC LEE JR. - NEBRASKA
229: R7P15 - LB FRANCIS BERNARD - UTAH[/quote]

That would be a good draft

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Have I ever said how much I love Ron Rivera and how great I think he’s going to be for this franchise? Have a plan and a tick to the fundamentals.

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/how-ron-rivera-plans-handle-fielding-calls-trades-draft-night[/url]

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I like Ron too but we haven't played a game yet. I do question why he would want to hand Cooper 20+ million per year. That one make zero sense to me. Other then that, so far I love what he's doing.