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If Tom wanted to win another SB he'd stay in NE.. This is about the $$ , he already has 6 rings so what else does he need?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1245935]If Tom wanted to win another SB he'd stay in NE.. This is about the $$ , he already has 6 rings so what else does he need?[/quote]

To have fun and do it somewhere else...in a spot where he is from....maybe to prove he can do it without Hoodie and Kraft

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1245935]If Tom wanted to win another SB he'd stay in NE.. This is about the $$ , he already has 6 rings so [B]what else does he need?[/B][/quote]

Get paid and do what Manning did, win a SB with another team.

I don't understand this argument about Brady having to stay in NE. He reworked his contract with the intention of leaving the Pats.

While risky, Brady in San Francisco would automatically improve their QB situation. And right now the 49ers probably have a better team on paper than New England

The Chargers are a pretty loaded team (Kennan Allen, Hunter Henry, and the Gordon/Ekeler RB duo), and Brady could make them a contender.

The Raiders have the resources to put a lot of weapons around Brady if they want to make a run at him as well.

Hell, even the Bucs could potentially put a good team around Brady (with Mike Evans as his leading receiver).

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[quote=mredskins;1245933]Seriously who wants Tom Brady? IMO he has one year left at best and you better surround him with an ALL PRO offense otherwise he isn't doing poop.[/quote]

Chargers.

New stadium, need to grab some attention from the Rams, his name and Chargers would be talked about ad nauseum on ESPN. He would instantly bring in more revenue through tickets, marketing and jerseys than his 30M or whatever price tag. He would pay for himself 10 times over imo. Huge 15 story high banners outside the stadium, every program and ticket and promotional material printed with his face on it. His face on buses, airports, commercials.

Sell hope in the offseason.

Bonus if he plays even decent during the regular season. If he plays well or the team is in the playoff hunt? Dude .. espn and others would be all over the Chargers, Chargers this, Brady that.

Brady to the LA Chargers = instant cash cow ... regardless of how he does on the field.

They would be the "LA Tom Bradys" ... which will sell more than the "LA Chargers formerly know as San Diego Chargers and not as good as the other option, the LA Rams" or, as they are currently called (for brevity sake), the LACFKASDCANAGATOOTLARs.

Bradys going to Hollywood. Victoria Secret models in the suites with Leonardo DiCaprio and James Franco slipping them roofies when they arent looking. Its on.

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Brady to LAC does make sense for the league

Also per Keim : The Redskins will be active on the Amari Cooper train.

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As a Skins fan I want you part of Brady, rather have DH.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1245943]Brady to LAC does make sense for the league

Also per Keim : The Redskins will be active on the Amari Cooper train.[/quote]

The Cowboys need both Cooper and Dak. I think Dallas with tag both of them, if necessary.

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Sounds like someone thinks we are into Philip Rivers.

[url]https://thefandc.radio.com/redskins-likely-to-bid-on-philip-rivers[/url]

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[quote=Chico23231;1245938]To have fun and do it somewhere else...in a spot where he is from....maybe to prove he can do it without Hoodie and Kraft[/quote]

Agree.
Plus his wife who wears the pants in the family, is from Brazil where the coldest winter day is 60F.
After living in MD for 30 years, I lived in Boston for four years and after the third winter I had to get out. I love snow and winter, but it is really rainy, windy and cold. Not a great combination. In the winter the sunrise is 7:13am and set at 4:20pm. I used to work 7am - 4pm. It was dark when I went in to work and dark when I went home. Kind of depressing.
I love Boston to visit but not to live.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1246151]Sounds like someone thinks we are into Philip Rivers.

[url]https://thefandc.radio.com/redskins-likely-to-bid-on-philip-rivers[/url][/quote]This is very interesting to me. Before people say he's too old, he threw for 4,600 yds last year. Always loved the dude's attitude. Starting to really wonder Rivera's feelings on Haskins. Tua and Rivers are way too talented to get if he's sold on Haskins.

Ready to take heat for this, but the idea of Rivers and Chase Young joining the Skins sounds pretty darn good to me. Doubt Rivers comes to DC but very intriguing if this report is credible.

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If I'm Rivers I'm looking at an immediate contender as I want a ring. He could view us as contenders in 2-3 years but does that fit his timeline? If the Raiders are sniffing around Brady then they are likely sounding out Rivers too, and he'd likely prefer to stay out west if he could and they seem closer to the playoffs than us.
If he came in as an immediate starter and Haskins didn't go off in a huff etc. but studied behind him and showed he was ready to take over in 2-3 then maybe I can see this, but i just don't. Besides his cap hit will be horrible and we've shown we're building young.

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[quote=The Skinsinator;1246166]This is very interesting to me. Before people say he's too old, he threw for 4,600 yds last year. Always loved the dude's attitude. Starting to really wonder Rivera's feelings on Haskins. Tua and Rivers are way too talented to get if he's sold on Haskins.

Ready to take heat for this, but the idea of Rivers and Chase Young joining the Skins sounds pretty darn good to me. Doubt Rivers comes to DC but very intriguing if this report is credible.[/quote]

Makes sense to me. Haskins had few starts in college. People said he was raw and needed time to mature and develop. You bring in a veteran like this for 1-2 years and let Haskins learn from a pro like Rivers?! Then turn it over to Haskins and we have Chase Young in his 3rd year terrorizing people. Could be the best thing for us. Teams don’t let high QB picks wait to develop much anymore, but look what it did for Rodgers Behind Favre. I’m enamored with this idea all of a sudden.

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[quote=The Skinsinator;1246166]This is very interesting to me. Before people say he's too old, he threw for 4,600 yds last year. Always loved the dude's attitude. Starting to really wonder Rivera's feelings on Haskins. Tua and Rivers are way too talented to get if he's sold on Haskins.

Ready to take heat for this, but the idea of Rivers and Chase Young joining the Skins sounds pretty darn good to me. Doubt Rivers comes to DC but very intriguing if this report is credible.[/quote]

Put me in the solid NO on this. Haskins is either the choice or he isn't. If he isn't then get Tua, Herbert or another rookie. If he is, then at most bring in a backup QB for backup QB money. I love Haskins' potential, but he will self destruct if he is backseated for an aging star. He showed that last year.

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[quote=Chico23231;1245938]To have fun and do it somewhere else...in a spot where he is from....maybe to prove he can do it without Hoodie and Kraft[/quote]

I would tend to agree, pretty sure as it always has been money isn't a priority for Brady. Doesn't his wife make $50 mil a year or used to?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1246172]Put me in the solid NO on this. Haskins is either the choice or he isn't. If he isn't then get Tua, Herbert or another rookie. If he is, then at most bring in a backup QB for backup QB money. I love Haskins' potential, but he will self destruct if he is backseated for an aging star. He showed that last year.[/quote]

I 100% agree, you are either all in on Haskins until he succeeds or fails or just get rid of him. He appeared disinterested at times when he wasn't playing. Do not bring in someone to have a QB competition with him.

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Rivers isn’t coming here


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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1246175]I 100% agree, you are either all in on Haskins until he succeeds or fails or just get rid of him. He appeared disinterested at times when he wasn't playing. Do not bring in someone to have a QB competition with him.[/quote]

Who said it’s a competition? Maybe the new staff thinks he needs more time to develop and learn. Since win is a 16 year pro who put up 4600 yards last year as a mentor is a bad thing? It not like Rivers would be a long term answer. He’s a 1-2 year stop gap to let our very young and inexperienced QB of the future be prepared to dominate when his turn comes up.

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Rivers is not a good choice for us. Everyone who really don’t know much about this team thinks the Redskins are not sold on Haskins because of his overall record in his rookie year. They haven’t watched his film of his last few games where he really started to EXCEL and show he might be our franchise QB of the future.

The idea of sitting Haskins for a year or two behind a veteran QB is just as terrible as all the people who wanted him to sit out his rookie year OR LONGER. Haskins needs game time experience more than anything. He plays this upcoming year and shows growth and improvement and leadership OR we’re drafting for a QB in the 2021 draft. Sitting a QB is ok if you’re a playoff contender and you’re SURE the young QB is a franchise QB like Mahomes. Haskins needs to prove he’s our guy this season by playing all season and winning games and bringing our offense out of the cellar. Period.


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I’ve always loved Rivers but his game fell off a bit last year. He’s lost some of his fastball, we can’t afford him anyway.


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[quote=MTK;1246189]I’ve always loved Rivers but his game fell off a bit last year. He’s lost some of his fastball, we can’t afford him anyway.


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If we trade Trent we will have 72 mil in cap space.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1246204]If we trade Trent we will have 72 mil in cap space.[/quote]

Rivers made 23 million last year and threw 20 interceptions.

On the plus side, he has started 16 games for the last 14 seasons. And as you pointed out the Redskins will have plenty of cap room. If he will take a short term contract and a 50% + cut in pay.... then maybe

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[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1246206]Rivers made 23 million last year and threw 20 interceptions.



On the plus side, he has started 16 games for the last 14 season. And as you pointed out the Redskins will have plenty of cap room. If he will take a short term contract and a 50% + cut in pay.... then maybe[/QUOTE]



$23 mill (maybe less) for a backup QB? We need to find out if Haskins is the future QB in THIS season. Not in two or three seasons after playing behind another old, OVER-PRICED QB on the downhill slope.

We will have $72 mill in cap if we trade Trent. But we can buy some top rate, very good FA to fill a lot of the BIG holes on the team.

Spending $10-20 mill on a QB, after we are ALREADY spending $20 mill on Alex Smith is just crazy. If Haskins had universally sucked his whole rookie season, this might be an option. But he started terribly, then steadily improved and finished very, very hot in his last two games. This gives a possible indication of his future. Making us wait another year or two to find out about whether Haskins is “the one” is just ridiculous. Give him a chance to prove himself or show he’s a draft bust THIS season. Then we can decide on overpaying some old guy or drafting a new QB.


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People keep saying Rivers to mentor Haskins. That's not what I think Rivera would be getting at. Would it shock anyone if they get Rivers and Tua? Rivers to mentor Tua. Haskins is traded. Think it's doubtful, but no one knows what Rivera thinks of Haskins currently other than the staff. I doubt even Snyder knows (he better not lol). Either way, we'll find out soon.

New coaches want their qb (their job depends on it), and that's why this situation is so intriguing with all the talent available and the cap space. We all want to know and thankfully we will soon.

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[quote=The Skinsinator;1246210]People keep saying Rivers to mentor Haskins. That's not what I think Rivera would be getting at. Would it shock anyone if they get Rivers and Tua? Rivers to mentor Tua. Haskins is traded. Think it's doubtful, but no one knows what Rivera thinks of Haskins currently other than the staff. I doubt even Snyder knows (he better not lol). Either way, we'll find out soon.

New coaches want their qb (their job depends on it), and that's why this situation is so intriguing with all the talent available and the cap space. We all want to know and thankfully we will soon.[/quote]

I’ve posted several things about Rivers but I actually would prefer to have Haskins and see him succeed. I’d much rather have Haskins over Tua at this point only bc his medical scares the hell out of me.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1246212]I’ve posted several things about Rivers but I actually would prefer to have Haskins and see him succeed. I’d much rather have Haskins over Tua at this point only bc his medical scares the hell out of me.[/quote]If the rumors are true that Washington will pursue Rivers, that makes me think Rivera is not sold on Haskins. Rivers isn't going anywhere other than to start. Haskins needs to start also. Hence an issue. Again, cannot wait until FA/draft to see what we're really going to do this offseason.

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No to Rivers...like MTK said, he looked bad last year. It’s a red flag Chargers let him walk.

An easy pass for me.

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[quote=Chico23231;1246219]No to Rivers...like MTK said, he looked bad last year. It’s a red flag Chargers let him walk.

An easy pass for me.[/quote]

Definitely agree, also the Redskins aren't a slight QB upgrade away from being a contender. Also there is no guarantee Rivers would be an upgrade.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1246204]If we trade Trent we will have 72 mil in cap space.[/quote]

It's not the total cap space that's a concern it's the % of the cap we'd have dedicated to the QB position. $21.4 for Alex, $3.3 for Dwayne, and probably another $20M or so for Rivers? That's ridiculous.

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[quote=The Skinsinator;1246210]People keep saying Rivers to mentor Haskins. That's not what I think Rivera would be getting at. Would it shock anyone if they get Rivers and Tua? Rivers to mentor Tua. Haskins is traded. Think it's doubtful, [B]but no one knows what Rivera thinks of Haskins currently other than the staff. I doubt even Snyder knows (he better not lol)[/B]. Either way, we'll find out soon.

New coaches want their qb (their job depends on it), and that's why this situation is so intriguing with all the talent available and the cap space. We all want to know and thankfully we will soon.[/quote]

Hold up now, you don't think a big part of the initial conversations between Snyder and Rivera before he took the job didn't center around Haskins??

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[quote=MTK;1246236]Hold up now, you don't think a big part of the initial conversations between Snyder and Rivera before he took the job didn't center around Haskins??[/quote]Maybe they did discuss it, but Dan had nowhere to go after the 2019 disastrous season. He knew that he'd have to give Rivera full power (which he's already stated). Him and Turner have to make the decision. If Snyder is out of football operations, he's out. No in between. Only way this will work.

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HELL NO To Rivers... WTF

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Could It possibly be that three head coaches Gruden, Callahan, Rivera all know more than any of us on how good Haskins can be ? Gruden let it be known he did not like Haskins, Callahan ran a vanilla O plan with him .. and Rivera obviously is not on board with him at least not 100%.. Haskins has the size and the athletic ability I just wonder what they see that they don’t like ..

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[QUOTE=The Skinsinator;1246250]Maybe they did discuss it, but Dan had nowhere to go after the 2019 disastrous season. He knew that he'd have to give Rivera full power (which he's already stated). Him and Turner have to make the decision. If Snyder is out of football operations, he's out. No in between. Only way this will work.[/QUOTE]



Maybe?

LOL

You can take it to the bank they discussed the most important spot on the field and the guy they just drafted 15th overall last year.


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Josh Norman to the Bills 1 Year deal

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1246257]Josh Norman to the Bills 1 Year deal[/quote]


1 year $6 million

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Gives them cheap depth

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[quote=rocnrik;1246252]Could It possibly be that three head coaches Gruden, Callahan, Rivera all know more than any of us on how good Haskins can be ? Gruden let it be known he did not like Haskins, Callahan ran a vanilla O plan with him .. and Rivera obviously is not on board with him at least not 100%.. Haskins has the size and the athletic ability I just wonder what they see that they don’t like ..[/quote]

I think it was Lavar Arrington on the radio that said he heard a rumor that Haskins was so bad reading the playbook they thought he had dyslexia. He did not state sources and I could not tell if he was serious as he was also talking about a lot of things said this time of year are nothing but smokescreens. Maybe he was using that as an example.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1246261]I think it was Lavar Arrington on the radio that said he heard a rumor that Haskins was so bad reading the playbook they thought he had dyslexia. He did not state sources and I could not tell if he was serious as he was also talking about a lot of things said this time of year are nothing but smokescreens. Maybe he was using that as an example.[/quote]

That was out last week, saw the same rumor. If that is the case, they will draft Tua

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I am in favor of drafting CY.

Now if RR and company think Tau is the best fit so be it. IMO if you think last years draft pick of DH was a mistake just fix it and draft Tau don't keep kicking the mistake can down the road for the next few years at the most important position on the field.

You don't want a Mitch T situation where Chicago keeps trying to make it work to justify their draft/trade of him

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You ever hear those playcalls? Those things aren't easy to read. They're not structured like actual sentences. It's repetition and memory saying them out loud. It's almost like muscle memory for certain skills and exercises.

I heard that his favorite non-football activities are kicking puppies and taking kids candy.

Source - guy at the gas station