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mooby 09-25-2019 01:36 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1231653]I'll be honest I laughed at the predictions of 3-13 or 4-12 from the media but clearly they were right[/quote]

I thought they were crazy too, kept thinking "well if we can go 7-9 last two years with a boatload of injuries we should at least do the same or better if we can stay healthy."

The way we play reeks of Jay losing the locker room. Not sure Manusky ever had the confidence of the locker room in the first place.

Buffalo Bob 09-25-2019 01:46 PM

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[quote=mooby;1231650]Can't disagree with anything you said.

I don't understand how Dan Snyder doesn't understand the concept of why consistently winning teams have a culture.[/quote]

Losing teams have a culture also, it just isn't a good one.

sdskinsfan2001 09-25-2019 09:27 PM

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[quote=mooby;1231650]Can't disagree with anything you said.

I don't understand how Dan Snyder doesn't understand the concept of why consistently winning teams have a culture.[/quote]

Dan Snyder is a loser. Losing is his culture. This team reflects that culture.

Indian-brave 09-25-2019 10:16 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1231653]I'll be honest I laughed at the predictions of 3-13 or 4-12 from the media but clearly they were right[/quote]

In numerology, that can mean 13-3.
They're right, you're just reading it backwards.

mooby 09-25-2019 10:24 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1231704]Dan Snyder is a loser. Losing is his culture. This team reflects that culture.[/quote]

All this talk about culture and I"m just waiting for the first motherfucker to come in here talking about "culture is overrated"

Culture is the difference between being perpetual contenders and perpetual losers. We've changed everything under the sun, except the culture.

Giantone 09-25-2019 10:27 PM

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[quote=mooby;1231708]All this talk about culture and I"m just waiting for the first motherfucker to come in here talking about "culture is overrated"

Culture is the difference between being perpetual contenders and perpetual losers. We've changed everything under the sun, except the culture.[/quote]

I know people gave him shit but this is what Dave Gettlemen has been doing in NY,"changing the Culture .

sdskinsfan2001 09-26-2019 03:39 AM

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[quote=mooby;1231708]All this talk about culture and I"m just waiting for the first motherfucker to come in here talking about "culture is overrated"

Culture is the difference between being perpetual contenders and perpetual losers. We've changed everything under the sun, except the culture.[/quote]

Its depressing, because Snyder isn't leaving anytime soon. That piece of shit doesn't care about the team. And his stench will never allow this franchise to have a good culture. Dan Snyder loves Dan Snyder. He doesn't give a fuck about anything besides himself.

Burgold 09-27-2019 02:20 AM

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I was fooled by all that good defense talk,but now that I've seen the light we will be lucky to win three games-Miami-The Jets-maybe steal one from the Giants,that's about it for this lost season.

Warthog 09-27-2019 09:16 PM

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It doesn’t matter how much talent we have. If poorly coached you just can’t win. Eventually the players start to play SOFT and it all goes south. The Dolphins are there - they’ve given up and sunk. Don’t be fooled, we’re not far behind them. Players like Scherff are getting “injured” because he knows he’ll be on another team next year. Others will follow.


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Warthog 10-03-2019 06:14 AM

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This team will go winless as long as Gruden and Manusky are in as coaches.


If Gruden is replaced by O’Connell and they can get a good DC to replaced Manusky, then the team may win a couple. The hard part is enticing a good EXTERNAL DC to come here under these conditions (I.e., Snyder, Allen, long history of buffoonery, etc). Easier to do if Allen is replaced.


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Buffalo Bob 10-03-2019 07:52 AM

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[quote=rocnrik;1231651]I know this sounds crazy.. here goes ..jay and the whole crew gets axed and we end up with the worse record in nfl .. number one pick .. new GM and coach can’t resist Tua .. we take him and trade Haskins for a number one and reboot .. I know you guys think that’s crazy but I could happen ...😀[/quote]

That already happened in Arizona, except they got a #2 for Rosen instead of a #1. As a UCLA fan I was never impressed with Rosen, but you have to feel bad for the guy. He gets picked by the worst team in the league, which happens with QBs, but then is kicked to the gutter in one year and traded to the new worst team that may go 0-16.

Warthog 10-05-2019 12:52 PM

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This team may have to have a winless or the second worst record this season to get Snyder to make major changes like replacing Bruce Allen or hiring a REAL GM who has the power to change this team’s losing culture.


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Buffalo Bob 10-05-2019 01:11 PM

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Vegas Insider has next week's NFL lines up already. They had the Skins opening as a 6 1/2 point road favorite at Miami but it has moved to 5 points. No matter how hard the Redskins try to lose they will beat Miami.

Warthog 10-06-2019 02:17 AM

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As long as Jay Gruden and Gregg Manusky are coaches for this franchise, this team could lose, even to Miami. Gruden is tanking to get fired and Manusky is just plain incompetent.


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DYoungJelly 10-06-2019 08:26 AM

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[quote=Warthog;1231911]Players like Scherff are getting “injured” because he knows he’ll be on another team next year. Others will follow.[/quote]

What's your evidence for that?

Scherff has played through numerous, bad injuries throughout his college and pro career.

He has been recognized by every coach he has played for since Iowa as unbelievably tough, even playing the same week as having a surgical procedure on his knee in college.

If word got out that he was faking an injury, (which is contrary to his entire football playing history) it would arguably hurt his market value more than being dinged up after the season.

VTSkins1961 10-06-2019 12:02 PM

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would be funny as hell if the redskins and dolphins game ends in a tie

Buffalo Bob 10-06-2019 12:49 PM

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[quote=VTSkins1961;1233024]would be funny as hell if the redskins and dolphins game ends in a tie[/quote]

If that were to happen and they both end up 0-15-1 what is the tie breaker to see who gets first draft pick? Would it be points for, points against? Obviously all the other standards that could be applied would be the same, as conference record, head to head, common opponents, etc,etc. Dolphins have a major head start trying to lose the points for points against battle.

EdmundDorf 10-06-2019 01:57 PM

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Strength of schedule

Warthog 10-11-2019 07:03 AM

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1233002]What's your evidence for that?

Scherff has played through numerous, bad injuries throughout his college and pro career.

He has been recognized by every coach he has played for since Iowa as unbelievably tough, even playing the same week as having a surgical procedure on his knee in college.

If word got out that he was faking an injury, (which is contrary to his entire football playing history) it would arguably hurt his market value more than being dinged up after the season.[/QUOTE]



The Redskins had the most injured players that last TWO SEASONS. Partly due to poor conditioning and soft practices. But one also suspects that some players use the opportunity of a losing season, on a losing franchise to perhaps “exaggerate injuries to save themselves for next season”. Agreed that Scherff is tough and plays hurt. I withdraw my statement about Scherff, but still submit that some players will use the closing culture of this Redskins to exaggerate injuries.


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Warthog 10-11-2019 07:07 AM

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1233002]What's your evidence for that?

Scherff has played through numerous, bad injuries throughout his college and pro career.

He has been recognized by every coach he has played for since Iowa as unbelievably tough, even playing the same week as having a surgical procedure on his knee in college.

If word got out that he was faking an injury, (which is contrary to his entire football playing history) it would arguably hurt his market value more than being dinged up after the season.[/QUOTE]



The Redskins had the most injured players that last TWO SEASONS. Partly due to poor conditioning and soft practices. But one also suspects that some players use the opportunity of a losing season, on a losing franchise to perhaps “exaggerate injuries to save themselves for next season”. Agreed that Scherff is tough and plays hurt.

I withdraw my statement about Scherff, but still submit that some players will use the closing culture of this Redskins to exaggerate injuries.

BTW, Callahan is having players doing post-practice sprints to toughen then up!


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DYoungJelly 10-11-2019 01:56 PM

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[QUOTE=Warthog;1234017]The Redskins had the most injured players that last TWO SEASONS. Partly due to poor conditioning and soft practices. But one also suspects that some players use the opportunity of a losing season, on a losing franchise to perhaps “exaggerate injuries to save themselves for next season”. Agreed that Scherff is tough and plays hurt.

I withdraw my statement about Scherff, but still submit that some players will use the closing culture of this Redskins to exaggerate injuries.

BTW, Callahan is having players doing post-practice sprints to toughen then up!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Which players would sprints toughen up the most?

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MTK 10-11-2019 02:07 PM

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I'm going to need to see a few wins before I'll buy into this idea that running sprints and having a tougher practice is making a difference.

skinsfaninok 10-11-2019 02:11 PM

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[quote=MTK;1234044]I'm going to need to see a few wins before I'll buy into this idea that running sprints and having a tougher practice is making a difference.[/quote]

It won't change much, yeah they may beat Miami Sunday (maybe) but this team sucks. It's a 3-13 team at best, look at our schedule, who are they going to beat besides Miami? I don't see anyone

MTK 10-11-2019 02:53 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1234046]It won't change much, yeah they may beat Miami Sunday (maybe) but this team sucks. It's a 3-13 team at best, look at our schedule, who are they going to beat besides Miami? I don't see anyone[/quote]

Even if we pound Miami I don't want to hear people crowing about how Callahan has magically turned shit around and what a turd Gruden was. Let's string some wins together first.

DYoungJelly 10-11-2019 08:03 PM

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[quote=MTK;1234049]Even if we pound Miami I don't want to hear people crowing about how Callahan has magically turned shit around and what a turd Gruden was. Let's string some wins together first.[/quote]

Yep.

Just putting this here:

[url]https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef/2019[/url]

Miami's defense is the worst.

Warthog 10-12-2019 03:04 AM

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There is some backlash in Miami, against making the “tanking strategy” look a little easy and casual.

I see them coming out with fire.


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