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[quote=skinsfaninok;1207096]I watched EVERY snap HAHA took against the high powered Rams Offense and he was very good in coverage , plays the MOF and doesn't get beat deep. IDK where that came from but its false.[/quote]

You know how it is, fans are always super critical and underrate their own players

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[quote=MTK;1207099]You know how it is, fans are always super critical and underrate their own players[/quote]

Saw a guy on twitter say the skins need to shop TW after this yr lolol

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1207102]Saw a guy on twitter say the skins need to shop TW after this yr lolol[/QUOTE]



I read an article before the trade deadline that they should trade Matt Io. /facepalm


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[quote=dynamiterave;1207103]i read an article before the trade deadline that they should trade matt io. /facepalm


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yeah lets give up our best players lol

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[quote=Ruhskins;1207051]You do know he had joined the team 4 days before the Falcons game, right? And are you really complaining about the Bucs game, when the Defense held them to 3 points? You do know that the Bucs were averaging 28 points per game before Sunday's game, right?[/quote] You make a good point but I still don't think he's all that good. If he was why did the Packers trade him? Why does my friend claim that HAHA sucks? Based on what I've seen he doesn't look like anything special. I would rather have the draft pick.

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[quote=httr198020;1207108]You make a good point but I still don't think he's all that good. [B]If he was why did the Packers trade him[/B]? Why does my friend claim that HAHA sucks? Based on what I've seen he doesn't look like anything special. I would rather have the draft pick.[/quote]

Green Bay let Micah Hyde walk too...the next year he was second team All Pro. Hyde is very talented. So Green Bay really doesn't seem to value Safeties

But you can look at the Green Bay front office and over the last several years they have made a series of poor moves.

They are really not a good team, very stupidly most seem to give them a pass because they have Rodgers...

Their decisions have been poor time and time again, so it really doesn't surprise me they weren't gonna sink money in HaHa because they need a lot more talent before they can compete with Minnesota and Chicago...both rosters have much more talent.

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He has made a big difference.. Not!


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[quote=Brody81;1207979]He has made a big difference.. Not!


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Hard to expect a guy to come in and learn a scheme in less than a week.

With that being said yes he hasn't made a difference. Still a dumb idea to expect him to learn the scheme immediately.

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Cut him now

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The last Ha Ha is on the skins for bringing this guy in. Is it just me or has the D looked like shit from the day he stepped on the field.

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It didn't work, but I don't have a huge problem with it. We got him for a 4th round pick, and we'll likely get a compensatory pick back for letting him walk. Oh well.

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He's in a tough spot, u are asking a guy to learn coverage concepts for a whole new team halfway through the season. His main job is to cover the MOF and not let deep balls get behind him. He's done a good job at that, he's just not a very good tackler and lacks that aggression u need in a deep S.

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[quote=MTK;1211651]It didn't work, but I don't have a huge problem with it. We got him for a 4th round pick, and we'll likely get a compensatory pick back for letting him walk. Oh well.[/quote]

Still no problem with the trade either. You're in the hunt, you go for it.

That being said, the impact isn't there, so based on what he's likely to get in the open market, I'd rather let him walk and take the compensatory pick.

If there is a way we can keep him for a Swearinger like deal I'd keep him and see what they can do together. Probably not realistic, but maybe.

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Put Nicholson back as a starter, Ha-ha is just a joke.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1211729]Put Nicholson back as a starter, Ha-ha is just a joke.[/quote]
This thread makes me look like a genius.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1211652]He's in a tough spot, u are asking a guy to learn coverage concepts for a whole new team halfway through the season. His main job is to cover the MOF and not let deep balls get behind him. He's done a good job at that, he's just not a very good tackler and lacks that aggression u need in a deep S.[/quote]

Cooper didn't seem to have a problem learning the playbook in Dallass. He didn't pan out no big deal we gave up a 4th and will probably get one back. Basically got him for nothing.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1212630]Cooper didn't seem to have a problem learning the playbook in Dallass. He didn't pan out no big deal we gave up a 4th and will probably get one back. Basically got him for nothing.[/quote]

WR is the easiest Position to transition too, u are just running routes not learning coverages and concepts but I agree HHCD is not that guy. He's too slow for a FS

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Far enough but I think you are underplaying the blocking schemes etc they have to learn as well.

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How difficult can learning a new scheme be? Clinton-Dix hasn't appeared anything close to how he did in GB...

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Like I said, he is no better and may be worse than Montae. There's a reason GB made zero attempt to resign him. I'm kind of over bringing in all these Bama guys.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1212652]Like I said, he is no better and may be worse than Montae. There's a reason GB made zero attempt to resign him. I'm kind of over bringing in all these Bama guys.[/quote]

Yeah I get they want to bring in a winning culture but it's not that easy.

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Who in the fuck watched tape on this guy from recent history and decided he was worth a draft pick? And what about dont fix it if it aint broken? We have been getting absolutely lit with the deep ball since this clown was acquired. The entire staff and FO needs to be torched. Literally down to the guy who brings the coffee. Thats the bad news. The good news is JJ is gonna help us win out and we getting a wildcard. Yeah im all over the fucking place but I got no choice. Dumpster fire or not i gotta stay positive until we are mathematically done.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1212688]Who in the fuck watched tape on this guy from recent history and decided he was worth a draft pick? And what about dont fix it if it aint broken? We have been getting absolutely lit with the deep ball since this clown was acquired. The entire staff and FO needs to be torched. Literally down to the guy who brings the coffee. Thats the bad news. The good news is JJ is gonna help us win out and we getting a wildcard. Yeah im all over the fucking place but I got no choice. Dumpster fire or not i gotta stay positive until we are mathematically done.[/QUOTE] The FO acquired him, but it took Gruden and Manusky to put him on the field.

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They started him day 1 on a short week, pretty much said Fuck U Montae the rest of the season.

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[quote=Chico23231;1207043]Monte Nicholson was trash this year. Wtf....yes another Troy Apke pick please, more of that all day.

Clinton-Dix is a very solid player who we should attempt to resign.[/quote]

Nicholson has played better than Clinton-Dix.

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Who the hell thought Apke was going to be a good pick? He was so bad in pre season. Just cause you're an athlete doesn't mean you can play football. Terrible pick.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1214354]Who the hell thought Apke was going to be a good pick? He was so bad in pre season. Just cause you're an athlete doesn't mean you can play football. Terrible pick.[/quote]

A rookie 4th rounder was bad in the preseason of his rookie year? Cut him immediately.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1214354]Who the hell thought Apke was going to be a good pick? He was so bad in pre season. Just cause you're an athlete doesn't mean you can play football. Terrible pick.[/quote] That is why we need a brand new front office. Bruce made some terrible picks in round 3 and 4.

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Apke was a bullshit pick.

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[quote=httr198020;1214352]Nicholson has played better than Clinton-Dix.[/quote]

Actually no he didn’t monte was garbage. Haha was better. Sorry true

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[quote=Chico23231;1214360]Actually no he didn’t monte was garbage. Haha was better. Sorry true[/quote] I don't see how that's true. What exactly was Monte doing wrong? I see you keep saying that but Clinton-Dix has done anything better than Monte since he's been here. He doesn't cover better than Monte. He doesn't tackle better than Monte. Clinton-Dix has been straight shit since he's been here. Please explain what he's doing so much better than Monte if you can? Tell me how he's made this defense better since he stepped in?

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1214359]Apke was a bullshit pick.[/QUOTE]I remember hearing a ton of chatter on pods there was a ton of resistance to him.

What's even more frustrating is the stand out guard from VT, Teller was still on the board.

He is ok as a starter in Buffalo as a rookie, despite being a 5th round pick.

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The Redskins front office is so foolish...and yes I'm talking to you Doug Williams...I don't know if you were the driving force behind sending a 4th round pick for HaHa Clinton-Dix but the time to make this trade was not in-season....Clinton Dix has struggled....probably due to the fact he's learning a new defensive scheme after being in another defense for 3-4 years....and the coaches are retarded for two reasons....#1 they are fixing HaHa to do what they are trying to do instead of adjusting the coverages to what he does well....and #2 someone who knows the defense like Everett who has been there longer should be playing SS while HaHa gets up to speed....I'm sure Torrian Gray has mentioned this to Manusky before or maybe he hasn't....seems like the DB coach would realize this....but it's not the DB coach's fault...let Everett start the last game against Philly.