Re: Sua Cravens
 

That guy doesn't want to play football, he just needs a paycheck, cant blame him but I'll pass. Monte is better when healthy

Re: Sua Cravens
 

If he’s cleared I say give him a shot if he wants it

Re: Sua Cravens
 

[quote=Irrefutable;1188376]trade him if you can.... maybe a conditional pick[/quote]

Har-Dee-Har-Har! Even Cleveland isn't that stupid. The Skins will cut him in a New York minute - as they should.

Re: Sua Cravens
 

[quote=MTK;1188389]If he’s cleared I say give him a shot if he wants it[/quote]

Agreed. Let him go through the off-season program and see what he's got. Can't hurt.

Re: Sua Cravens
 

If a team offers a 6th round pick or higher, I'd trade him. If not, let him come to camp and see what he has. What a weird situation.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1188413]If a team offers a 6th round pick or higher, I'd trade him. If not, let him come to camp and see what he has. What a weird situation.[/quote]

seems like that happens to us and only us

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1188414]seems like that happens to us and only us[/QUOTE]


Did you just see the Colt’s fiasco with McDaniels?

Or Foster’s domestic violence situation in SF?

Or the Giants memorabilia lawsuit going to trial?

Dallas last season with Elliot?

Shit happens all over

Re: Sua Cravens
 

If I'm coach I'd put it to the captains + a committee of other highly regarded veterans. Would you welcome Su'a back? And don't tell me what you think I want to hear, just give it to me straight. You players are the ones that have to be able to trust him.

Depending on what they say, I'd take that back to the front office and tell them.

If the players are good with welcoming him back, then I'd welcome it. This is one of those times where I think the leadership in the locker room should decide.

Re: Sua Cravens
 

It would also put a little teeth into being one of those locker room leaders. It would mean something tangible, a bigger reason for all 53 to fall in line behind Trent, Scherff, DJ, etc.

Re: Sua Cravens
 

[quote=MTK;1188415]Did you just see the Colt’s fiasco with McDaniels?

Or Foster’s domestic violence situation in SF?

Or the Giants memorabilia lawsuit going to trial?

Dallas last season with Elliot?

Shit happens all over[/quote]

F the giants and boys , I hope that happens to them every yr

Re: Sua Cravens
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;1188393]Har-Dee-Har-Har! Even Cleveland isn't that stupid. The Skins will cut him in a New York minute - as they should.[/quote]

And NE will pick him up, and BB will motivate his a**

Re: Sua Cravens
 

[quote=Schneed10;1188416]If I'm coach I'd put it to the captains + a committee of other highly regarded veterans. Would you welcome Su'a back? And don't tell me what you think I want to hear, just give it to me straight. You players are the ones that have to be able to trust him.

Depending on what they say, I'd take that back to the front office and tell them.

If the players are good with welcoming him back, then I'd welcome it. This is one of those times where I think the leadership in the locker room should decide.[/quote]
This is exactly what they should do.

Re: Sua Cravens
 

Losing Fuller to trade, I keep him and keep moving forward. If not anything else he is quality depth behind the starter.

Re: Sua Cravens
 

[quote=Schneed10;1188416]If I'm coach I'd put it to the captains + a committee of other highly regarded veterans. Would you welcome Su'a back? And don't tell me what you think I want to hear, just give it to me straight. You players are the ones that have to be able to trust him.

Depending on what they say, I'd take that back to the front office and tell them.

If the players are good with welcoming him back, then I'd welcome it. This is one of those times where I think the leadership in the locker room should decide.[/quote]

I wished there was a way to like this post! Good post Schneed!

Re: Sua Cravens
 

Cravens cleared today by the NFL. Now the Redskins have to decide what they are going to do.

Re: Sua Cravens
 

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/14/mason-foster-all-for-sua-cravens-return/]Mason Foster “all for” Su’a Cravens return – ProFootballTalk[/url]

Re: Sua Cravens
 

[quote=Schneed10;1188416]If I'm coach I'd put it to the captains + a committee of other highly regarded veterans. Would you welcome Su'a back? And don't tell me what you think I want to hear, just give it to me straight. You players are the ones that have to be able to trust him.

Depending on what they say, I'd take that back to the front office and tell them.

If the players are good with welcoming him back, then I'd welcome it. This is one of those times where I think the leadership in the locker room should decide.[/quote]

This! It will be interesting to see how FO handles this.

Re: Sua Cravens
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1188512][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/14/mason-foster-all-for-sua-cravens-return/]Mason Foster “all for” Su’a Cravens return – ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

I think the title is misleading here.

Of course on radio, Mason Foster who seems to be a nice guy is not going to say "Cravens?! F' him! I don't want him back he can go play for the XFL for all I care!".

But IMHO the whole statement contains clear indications that he thinks bringing Cravens back would be possible but veeeery complicated:

“For you to work the whole year with us in OTAs, you got a starting spot and[B] all of a sudden you just walk away from it, it’s tough[/B],” Foster said on The Team 980, via the Washington Post. “Without explaining it to guys on the team, I think [B]some guys are going to feel a certain way[/B], but me, I’m all for him to come back. He’s a great player. He’s made plays here, but I think it’s going to be [B]a work in progress[/B]. You’re going to have to come back and show people what you’re made of and show people that your heart is really in it, [B]or I don’t think anybody’s really going to welcome you back in with open arms like that[/B].”

I'd love to hear the audio of that, to have a better feel of what he thinks and where he's just saying the right things.

Re: Sua Cravens
 

Here, at 4:10 :

[url]http://cdn.stationcaster.com/stations/wtem/media/mpeg/02_13_18_Mason_Foster_-1518534702.mp3[/url]

Confirms how I feel about it, Mason is a nice guy, he wasn't going to roast Su'a, but the first words out of his mouth when asked about Cravens were "It's tough"...

Re: Sua Cravens
 

There are reports now the Skins are shopping Cravens.

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Re: Sua Cravens
 

[quote=Dan73;1189231]There are reports now the Skins are shopping Cravens.

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good but wont get jack for him

Re: Sua Cravens
 

Hard to imagine getting anything worthwhile, maybe a 7th

Re: Sua Cravens
 

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1189232]good but wont get jack for him[/QUOTE]This a dream but would be good.

[url]https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/Bolt/Sua-Cravens-could-be-possible-trade-option-for-Pittsburgh-Steelers-Martavis-Bryant-115579626[/url]

I wonder if the Skins threw in a fifth if that works.

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Re: Sua Cravens
 

Gruden says they aren't trading Sua. No link yet.

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[quote=WillH;1189456]Gruden says they aren't trading Sua. No link yet.

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hopefully a negotiation move, they are not happy with the offers

Re: Sua Cravens
 

Smokescreen so they can now tag Cousins

Re: Sua Cravens
 

[QUOTE=MTK;1189458]Smokescreen so they can now tag Cousins[/QUOTE]Lol.

Yeah, I've been thinking that they could be throwing up smoke screens with this and the tag situation for sure. Think about all this reporting about Denver and Washington trade talks. Maybe they've got this whole deal worked out to save each other cap space and whatnot be swapping talib and cravens as part of the cousins deal. It's all falling into place.

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Re: Sua Cravens
 

Come on, it's a 4 team trade, We get Landry, Denver gets Cousins, Miami gets Bryant, and Pittsburgh gets Cravens.

Every receiving team gets a conditional 2019 2nd from the player's destination team, with any team that wins a playoff game ups it to a 1st, and if they go under 8-8 it drops to a 3rd.

It's not complicated, it's creative.

Re: Sua Cravens
 

I am sorry if someone already mentioned this, I do not have the time to read 10 pages of this thread.
But I remember when John Riggins had a reputation of bad attitude, quit the Redskins and sat out an entire year.
Then asked to come back and many were not happy about him coming back. We won a Superbowl after that.
I think Sua had very personal issues to deal with regardless of what opinions think or say.
Give him another chance.
He did not kill puppies or beat his wife or kill someone.

Re: Sua Cravens
 

[QUOTE=Defensewins;1189461]I am sorry if someone already mentioned this, I do not have the time to read 10 pages of this thread.
But I remember when John Riggins had a reputation of bad attitude, quit the Redskins and sat out an entire year.
Then asked to come back and many were not happy about him coming back. We won a Superbowl after that.
I think Sua had very personal issues to deal with regardless of what opinions think or say.
Give him another chance.
He did not kill puppies or beat his wife or kill someone.[/QUOTE]Wait, killing puppies is NOT okay?!

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Re: Sua Cravens
 

[quote=FrenchSkin;1189465]Wait, killing puppies is NOT okay?!

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No more French food for me!

Re: Sua Cravens
 

[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1189466]No more French food for me![/QUOTE]We'll talk about that when you're in front of a piece of foie gras and a bottle of Sauternes wine ;-)

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Re: Sua Cravens
 

[quote=MTK;1189458]Smokescreen so they can now tag Cousins[/quote]

Personal foul! I'm throwing the flag on you invoking the KC name into this thread! :)

Re: Sua Cravens
 

[quote=FrenchSkin;1189465]Wait, killing puppies is NOT okay?!

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Man, Daseal is going to be upset.

Re: Sua Cravens
 

[QUOTE=Defensewins;1189461]I am sorry if someone already mentioned this, I do not have the time to read 10 pages of this thread.

But I remember when John Riggins had a reputation of bad attitude, quit the Redskins and sat out an entire year.

Then asked to come back and many were not happy about him coming back. We won a Superbowl after that.

I think Sua had very personal issues to deal with regardless of what opinions think or say.

Give him another chance.

He did not kill puppies or beat his wife or kill someone.[/QUOTE]



I dont think it is fair to compare Sua to Riggo. At all. Riggo was enough to put that team over the top. This team aint that team and even if it was Sua aint putting them over the top.
That being said - yeah id like to see the kid back. I still believe he can be a difference maker on our D.


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Re: Sua Cravens
 

[quote=FrenchSkin;1189465]Wait, killing puppies is NOT okay?!

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Michael Vick is that you?

Re: Sua Cravens
 

Sua tweet "new beginnings "

?

Re: Sua Cravens
 

[quote=Irrefutable;1190141]Sua tweet "new beginnings "

?[/quote]

I'm going to take a wild guess here, an announcement will be made soon, ending rampant speculation.

Re: Sua Cravens
 

[quote=Irrefutable;1190141]Sua tweet "new beginnings "

?[/quote]

with a hashtag to the Black Panther movie

Not sure it's about football.

Re: Sua Cravens
 

I can’t stand vague tweets or FB posts looking for attention. Just say what you mean.