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Schneed10 12-28-2015 07:13 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1134778]I say rest your banged up players, they need to be ready for the playoffs instead of a meaningless game.

TWilliams
Moses
Jones
Hatcher
Goldston
DJax
Breeland

All should get a weeks rest[/quote]

If you sit the starting tackles then sitting Cousins becomes an absolute must.

JoeRedskin 12-28-2015 07:16 PM

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In Scot we trust.

I expect that means we will not be signing Mack. I am good with that.

skinsfaninok 12-28-2015 07:27 PM

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U guys talking offseason like we should be or something... pshhh this is the new redskins we r playoff bound!!

Schneed10 12-28-2015 07:27 PM

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I would be surprised if we take a major dip into free agency. We have to resign Cousins, Galette and Knighton. I would be surprised if they let Jackson or Goldson go.

Not as much cap space as Tandler thinks. We have space but we'll use an awful lot by resigning our own.

Good. Like Matty said, draft draft draft.

DYoungJelly 12-28-2015 08:16 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;1134993]I would be surprised if we take a major dip into free agency. We have to resign Cousins, Galette and Knighton. I would be surprised if they let Jackson or Goldson go.

Not as much cap space as Tandler thinks. We have space but we'll use an awful lot by resigning our own.

Good. Like Matty said, draft draft draft.[/quote]

How big a contract you think Knighton will get?

I'm not convinced he will be back unless he offers a discount. How much I'm not sure, but this year didn't warrant a big contract.

He has played better the last 3 or 4 games but in the middle of the year wasn't making an impact.

punch it in 12-28-2015 08:19 PM

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[QUOTE=MTK;1134969]Draft, draft, draft.[/QUOTE]


Yes yes yes. Resign our own. Pay our own.

MTK 12-28-2015 08:31 PM

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Big money for a 30 year old center definitely doesn't sound like a SM move.

punch it in 12-28-2015 09:02 PM

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[QUOTE=MTK;1134999]Big money for a 30 year old center definitely doesn't sound like a SM move.[/QUOTE]


Its an SF move. He is a West Coast guy. [emoji41]

EARTHQUAKE2689 12-28-2015 09:05 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;1134993]I would be surprised if we take a major dip into free agency. We have to resign Cousins, Galette and Knighton. I would be surprised if they let Jackson or Goldson go.

Not as much cap space as Tandler thinks. We have space but we'll use an awful lot by resigning our own.

Good. Like Matty said, draft draft draft.[/quote]

I was thinking that same exact thing, I would expect a couple mid level FA signings in the off-season maybe take a flyer on Eric Berry just because he may come cheap, but draft, draft, draft is the plan.

EARTHQUAKE2689 12-28-2015 09:07 PM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1134991]In Scot we trust.

I expect that means we will not be signing Mack. I am good with that.[/quote]

Nick Martin center, Notre Dame.

EARTHQUAKE2689 12-28-2015 09:09 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1134973]Oh really? That's why he got elected to another pro-bowl.

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/193005/browns-joe-thomas-alex-mack-selected-to-pro-bowl]Cleveland Browns' Joe Thomas, Alex Mack selected to Pro Bowl - NFL Nation- ESPN[/url][/quote]

Jordan Reed wasn't selected to the Pro Bowl, so we can see how much BS the pro bowl is.

EARTHQUAKE2689 12-28-2015 09:10 PM

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[quote=calia;1134980]I might prefer to let Scot find the next Alex Mack in the draft -- and I trust him to do it. Our needs are ILB, center, safety, blocking TE, in that order, in my view. If we're not going to re-sign Alfo, we will need some additional backfield help too.[/quote]

Good thing this is a deep RB class but a group of:

Matt Jones
Chris Thompson
Pierre Thomas
Silas Redd
Darrel Young

That is no slouch of a group of a 3rd or 4th or 5th round pick on a RB wouldnt be bad

skinsfaninok 12-28-2015 10:39 PM

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I love how all of the post about the skins have so many haters lol they'll see soon enough

REDSKINS4ever 12-29-2015 05:56 AM

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1134996]How big a contract you think Knighton will get?

I'm not convinced he will be back unless he offers a discount. How much I'm not sure, but this year didn't warrant a big contract.

He has played better the last 3 or 4 games but in the middle of the year wasn't making an impact.[/quote]

He could be as signed for a 3 year deal for about $5 million a year....I think he would agree to something like that if it's offered.

DYoungJelly 12-29-2015 10:03 AM

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1135024]He could be as signed for a 3 year deal for about $5 million a year....I think he would agree to something like that if it's offered.[/quote]

Would you put a weight requirement in the contract?

He would be so much better if he dropped about 50 pounds down to 350ish.

53Fan 12-29-2015 12:12 PM

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I'd love to have Alex Mack as our center but whatever SM decides I'm good with. He seems to have an eye for talent don't you think?

[url]https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1029165787126978&id=100001006981431[/url]

Chico23231 12-29-2015 12:17 PM

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Pot Roast needs to come back on a 3 year deal which essentially be a 2 year deal most likely.

Finding solid DT/NT are about as hard as finding a QB. So if your gonna pay Cousins, pay Pot Roast as well. Pot Roast has been solid for us, especially the second half

That Guy 12-29-2015 03:10 PM

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McC doesn't give big contracts to old guys, he's said that himself, he wants his FAs in the mid 20s and to get them under contract before they peak, not to pay for peak performance after the fact.

the last big money old guy was hatcher, and while he hasn't been awful, i don't feel like he's earned the money due to injury time off etc. and they used that "but he didn't play much, so he's a fresh kind of 30 argument with him. guess what? his knees don't care.

SFREDSKIN 12-29-2015 03:50 PM

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[quote=That Guy;1135056]McC doesn't give big contracts to old guys, he's said that himself, he wants his FAs in the mid 20s and to get them under contract before they peak, not to pay for peak performance after the fact.

the last big money old guy was hatcher, and while he hasn't been awful, i don't feel like he's earned the money due to injury time off etc. and they used that "but he didn't play much, so he's a fresh kind of 30 argument with him. guess what? his knees don't care.[/quote]

How about Dashon Goldson, Pierre Thomas, Will Blackmon, Brian De La Puente, Alex Smith? All in their early 30's or at 30.

Alvin Walton 12-29-2015 03:52 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1135064]How about Dashon Goldson, Pierre Thomas, Will Blackmon, Brian De La Puente, Alex Smith? All in their early 30's or at 30.[/quote]

And almost all were late season desperation grabs because of injuries.

MTK 12-29-2015 03:52 PM

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1135064]How about Dashon Goldson, Pierre Thomas, Will Blackmon, Brian De La Puente, Alex Smith? All in their early 30's or at 30.[/QUOTE]


Any big money deals there?

TheMalcolmConnection 12-29-2015 04:08 PM

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I have to say I'm almost (if not more so) with Scot's ability to vet established players to fit in what we're trying to do. I mean people off the freaking streets have played solid to outstanding for us.

CRedskinsRule 12-29-2015 04:08 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1135064]How about Dashon Goldson, Pierre Thomas, Will Blackmon, Brian De La Puente, Alex Smith? All in their early 30's or at 30.[/quote]

SM said it best, he brought those guys in because they were [I][B]"football players"[/B][/I] for this season, not as long term solutions. And none were high priced guys.

Expect Callahan/SM to get a Center early in next year's draft, and expect him to start and play with gusto.

That Guy 12-29-2015 04:08 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1135064]How about Dashon Goldson, Pierre Thomas, Will Blackmon, Brian De La Puente, Alex Smith? All in their early 30's or at 30.[/quote]

big money where? and goldson wasn't a FA, that was a trade w/ a pick and his base salary is 1.6mill this year. next year he'll either be gone or take a BIG pay cut from what the bucs signed him to, cause no ones paying him $8mill in 2016.

small money value deals are part of what McC is all about, and that's what these were, they filled needs competently and cost us almost nothing.

SFREDSKIN 12-29-2015 04:23 PM

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[quote=That Guy;1135070]big money where? and goldson wasn't a FA, that was a trade w/ a pick and his base salary is 1.6mill this year. next year he'll either be gone or take a BIG pay cut from what the bucs signed him to, cause no ones paying him $8mill in 2016.

small money value deals are part of what McC is all about, and that's what these were, they filled needs competently and cost us almost nothing.[/quote]

Ok, I was wrong

Chico23231 12-29-2015 04:32 PM

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[quote=That Guy;1135070]big money where? and goldson wasn't a FA, that was a trade w/ a pick and his base salary is 1.6mill this year. next year he'll either be gone or take a BIG pay cut from what the bucs signed him to, cause no ones paying him $8mill in 2016.

small money value deals are part of what McC is all about, and that's what these were, they filled needs competently and cost us almost nothing.[/quote]

I think Goldson and Pot Roast should be back. They are certainly been value in their contracts. These guys have worked on the field and in the locker room. Expect both to be back

SFREDSKIN 12-29-2015 10:06 PM

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Added another CB from the PS.
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2015/12/29/redskins-elevate-cornerback-jeremy-harris-from-practice-squad/[/url]

That Guy 12-30-2015 03:54 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1135075]I think Goldson and Pot Roast should be back. They are certainly been value in their contracts. These guys have worked on the field and in the locker room. Expect both to be back[/quote]

goldson won't be back without a new deal. $8m is too much for a safety that's not a superstar. if the value is good, they'll be back (they have played well vs their contracts this year), if they want too much money, they won't be.

andre roberts is the only guy who really (Really) crapped the bed (though i guess you could throw RGIII in there too if you wanted).

SFREDSKIN 12-30-2015 10:34 AM

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2 GM's for executive of the year, Scot M. is one in the running.

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2015/12/30/scot-mccloughan-in-a-two-man-race-for-nfl-executive-of-the-year/[/url]

Chico23231 12-30-2015 10:37 AM

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[quote=That Guy;1135129]goldson won't be back without a new deal. $8m is too much for a safety that's not a superstar. if the value is good, they'll be back (they have played well vs their contracts this year), if they want too much money, they won't be.

andre roberts is the only guy who really (Really) crapped the bed (though i guess you could throw RGIII in there too if you wanted).[/quote]

the reason why Pot Roast and Goldson were targeted by McC was great locker room leadership and apparently that's been the case this year. Tarik El B Sure (skins beat reporter) said this morning...doesn't think the skins would be in playoffs with out those guys.

MTK 12-30-2015 10:40 AM

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1135161]2 GM's for executive of the year, Scot M. is one in the running.



[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2015/12/30/scot-mccloughan-in-a-two-man-race-for-nfl-executive-of-the-year/[/url][/QUOTE]


SM deserves it, I know the Jets have had some dysfunction but nothing compared to our track record. The fact that we're stable while the rest of the division is in turmoil says it all.

SFREDSKIN 12-30-2015 10:51 AM

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[quote=MTK;1135164]SM deserves it, I know the Jets have had some dysfunction but nothing compared to our track record. The fact that we're stable while the rest of the division is in turmoil says it all.[/quote]

Damn right he deserves it, he brought this team from the bottom to the playoffs in one year and a single draft. This is the 3rd team (if not 4th, GB) that he has turned around. He's the reason I picked the Redskins to be in the playoffs this year, I saw his work here in SF. Our OL went from garbage to a solid line, next year it will be as good as Dallas or even better.

punch it in 12-30-2015 11:24 AM

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Looking so forward to the playoffs, but next year is going to be such a treat. This current team with everyone a year more experienced. No circus qb sideshow in the offseason. A fresh crop of draftpicks. Hot damn.

Giantone 12-30-2015 01:38 PM

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[quote=MTK;1135164]SM deserves it, I know the Jets have had some dysfunction but nothing compared to our track record. The fact that we're stable while the rest of the division is in turmoil says it all.[/quote]



Turmoil???

punch it in 12-30-2015 01:45 PM

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[quote=Giantone;1135198]Turmoil???[/quote]

Well, the Eagles just fired their coach, the Giants are debating about their coach, and GM last I checked, and Dallas is doing the same with Garrett. Turmoil seems like the perfect word word choice by Matty.

Giantone 12-30-2015 01:57 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1135199].......................... the Giants are debating about their coach, and GM last I checked, and Dallas is doing the same with Garrett. Turmoil seems like the perfect word word choice by Matty.[/quote]




Nether of those two things are happening , maybe fans are saying stuff but the teams aren't .Pretty sure both are safe .

CRedskinsRule 12-30-2015 02:06 PM

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1135198]Turmoil???[/QUOTE]
Your star wideout was suspended. Your head coach sold his NY house. You've missed playoff multiple years. Its not upheaval but turmoil. Absolutely.

Sent from my S6 Edge

SFREDSKIN 12-30-2015 02:10 PM

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[url=http://nypost.com/2015/12/30/john-maras-2016-plan-coughlin-likely-out-but-what-about-reese/]John Mara’s 2016 plan: Coughlin likely out but what about Reese? | New York Post[/url]

Chico23231 12-30-2015 02:14 PM

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Coughlin came out looking pretty bad this year...Giants persistent ability to choke and not close out games seem to become a mental thing and Coughlin kinda perpetuated this non confidence. I don't think that staff works well together...

I thought the Minnesota game was the coup de grace. Lets be honest, the Giants looked the worst they ever had under Coughlin that past game. I know folks want to simply say "well their best player was out". No, that wasn't it, not close really

MTK 12-30-2015 02:21 PM

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1135198]Turmoil???[/QUOTE]


Tell me how the word doesn't fit.


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