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punch it in 12-21-2015 10:39 AM

Week 15
 
[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1133708]It only matters if we lose to the eagles. If we were to lose to the eagles we would want NYG to beat the Vikings so they are playing with a chance against the Eagles.



At this point there are only 2 scenarios that get the Redskins in the playoffs, the first (and preferable) is



beat Philly. Then we are in.



The second, and much worse odds,

lose to philly,

then have NYG beat Philly and we beat Dallas.



NYG's Minnesota game has no direct bearing on us.



if Philly wins out they are in.



if we lose out, and the Giants beat Philly, the Giants are in.





on a side note,



I liked the change in tact at Gruden's press conference yesterday. Until now, all I had heard - and heard players repeating - is it's all out in front of them. Yesterday, he changed the mantra to we have a responsibility as a first place team to play sound solid football. It is a subtle shift, but if the team takes it on, then that shows that he really is leading the locker room and team, and that is a good sign.[/QUOTE]


Yes if we beat eagles its done but, if we lose than beat dallas wouldnt we need vikes to beat gints n gints to beat eagles? That would put us at 8-8, eagles at 7-9, gints at 7-9? Vikings beating giants has a huge impact on us?
Edit: or do we own tiebreaker over gints even if they go 8-8? Eithet way i want them to lose.

CRedskinsRule 12-21-2015 11:01 AM

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no, we have the tie breaker with the Giants, so if we tie them at 8-8 we go in so if NYG loses to the Vikings, they are eliminated

The Giants have to win out and hope we lose both games.

So (if we lose to Philly) we in fact want the Giants to beat the Vikings so that they play the Eagles for a meaningful game.

Consider this: if we lose Saturday, then Fox has both the Skins/Cowboys, and the NYG/Philly game at 1pm on Sunday the 3rd, and the division champ could rest on the outcome of both games with the following scenario:
Philly wins, they win the division at 8-8 with a better division record then the Skins
NYG win, Redskins win, Skins win the division at 8-8 with a better div record then NYG
NYG win, Redskins lose, NYG win the division at 8-8 with Skins and Philly both at 7-9

edit: actually we own the conf. percentage tiebreaker with the Giants if we tie them at 8-8

NoCalHail 12-21-2015 11:04 AM

Re: Week 15
 
The Giants can now not get in unless they win out and we lose out.

However Philly controls their own destiny. If they beat us and the Giants then they are in.

If we lose to Philly, we need to beat Dallas AND Giants need to beat the Eagles.

It's a shame about the games we lost to Dallas & Miami at home. If we would have won either of those, then yesterday's win against the Bills would have clinched the division.

CRedskinsRule 12-21-2015 11:10 AM

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[quote=NoCalHail;1133715]The Giants can now not get in unless they win out and we lose out.

However Philly controls their own destiny. If they beat us and the Giants then they are in.

If we lose to Philly, we need to beat Dallas AND Giants need to beat the Eagles.

It's a shame about the games we lost to Dallas & Miami at home. If we would have won either of those, then yesterday's win against the Bills would have clinched the division.[/quote]

Yeah, you can look at a handful of games and say it's a shame, I would throw Atlanta on the road in with your two.

But this was definitely a build from the bottom up year, and I think next year those games go our way.

punch it in 12-21-2015 11:12 AM

Re: Week 15
 
[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1133714]no, we have the tie breaker with the Giants, so if we tie them at 8-8 we go in so if NYG loses to the Vikings, they are eliminated



The Giants have to win out and hope we lose both games.



So (if we lose to Philly) we in fact want the Giants to beat the Vikings so that they play the Eagles for a meaningful game.



Consider this: if we lose Saturday, then Fox has both the Skins/Cowboys, and the NYG/Philly game at 1pm on Sunday the 3rd, and the division champ could rest on the outcome of both games with the following scenario:

Philly wins, they win the division at 8-8 with a better division record then the Skins

NYG win, Redskins win, Skins win the division at 8-8 with a better div record then NYG

NYG win, Redskins lose, NYG win the division at 8-8 with Skins and Philly both at 7-9



edit: actually we own the conf. percentage tiebreaker with the Giants if we tie them at 8-8[/QUOTE]


Gotcha thanks for the breakdown C

NoCalHail 12-21-2015 11:13 AM

Re: Week 15
 
And for what it's worth, the AFC South is worse than the NFC East.

CRedskinsRule 12-21-2015 11:14 AM

Re: Week 15
 
[quote=punch it in;1133718]Gotcha thanks for the breakdown C[/quote]

No problem, rather focus on the Skins making the playoffs then work stuff :)

skinsfaninok 12-21-2015 11:38 AM

Re: Week 15
 
So after we beat philly Saturday do we sit the starters for the dallas game?? I don't but what do u guys think?

punch it in 12-21-2015 11:44 AM

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1133720]No problem, rather focus on the Skins making the playoffs then work stuff :)[/QUOTE]


Hah!

punch it in 12-21-2015 11:44 AM

Re: Week 15
 
[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1133726]So after we beat philly Saturday do we sit the starters for the dallas game?? I don't but what do u guys think?[/QUOTE]


Absolutely

SFREDSKIN 12-21-2015 11:52 AM

Re: Week 15
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1133726]So after we beat philly Saturday do we sit the starters for the dallas game?? I don't but what do u guys think?[/quote]

This game won't be easy, the eagles were favored to win the SB by some. Even though they got blown out by AZ, they are pretty healthy have lots of talent and can strike quick. Remember the Dallas game? The one good thing is that we already got bulletin material from Mychal Kendricks:

"I mean, if I know this team and I know myself and the guys in here, man, the Redskins have something coming to them. For real. That's real [crap]. That's all I have to say about that."

CRedskinsRule 12-21-2015 12:11 PM

Re: Week 15
 
The eagles have always had guys who are full of themselves.

Sent from my S6 Edge

Chico23231 12-21-2015 12:19 PM

Re: Week 15
 
Hold on, Coughlin never took ODB off the field for even one play to talk about what he was doing was wrong? well just lost a ton of respect for Coughlin too.

J. Falcon 12-21-2015 12:32 PM

Re: Week 15
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1133730]This game won't be easy, the eagles were favored to win the SB by some. Even though they got blown out by AZ, they are pretty healthy have lots of talent and can strike quick. Remember the Dallas game? The one good thing is that we already got bulletin material from Mychal Kendricks:

"I mean, if I know this team and I know myself and the guys in here, man, the Redskins have something coming to them. For real. That's real [crap]. That's all I have to say about that."[/quote]

Are you sure about that? I don't remember anyone thinking the Eagles could go on a Superbowl run after thr crazy personnel moves made by Kelly. I for one expected this kind of season from them.

JoeRedskin 12-21-2015 01:05 PM

Re: Week 15
 
Well, Chris Baker provided some bulletin board stuff for Philly as well saying he is planning on partying in Philadelphia (Can't find the link but read it in a couple places yesterday).

Frankly, if anyone on this team needs stuff from Philly players to fire them up for a prime-time game with the division on the line, well, they are not the team we think they are.

They win this then they will have three in a row, a win on the road, and a win in prime time. That's pretty much the check list.

SFREDSKIN 12-21-2015 01:09 PM

Re: Week 15
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;1133739]Well, Chris Baker provided some bulletin board stuff for Philly as well saying he is planning on partying in Philadelphia (Can't find the link but read it in a couple places yesterday).

Frankly, if anyone on this team needs stuff from Philly players to fire them up for a prime-time game with the division on the line, well, they are not the team we think they are.

They win this then they will have three in a row, a win on the road, and a win in prime time. That's pretty much the check list.[/quote]

That was Baker's response to Kendricks statement, the Eagles need this game as badly as we do. It's going to be a war, I just worry about the long TD's allowed against Buffalo, the eagles can strike quick with those type of TD's and have a stout healthy D.

CRedskinsRule 12-21-2015 01:36 PM

Re: Week 15
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1133740]That was Baker's response to Kendricks statement, the Eagles need this game as badly as we do. It's going to be a war, I just worry about the long TD's allowed against Buffalo, the eagles can strike quick with those type of TD's and have a stout healthy D.[/quote]

Can Bradford/Matthews really make the quick strikes Taylor/Watkins made? Also can Bradford evade like Taylor.

I think it will be a tough division game, but (and I probably will be burned) I think the defense should destroy the Eagles offense, and if the offense doesn't burn itself (I'm looking at you Jordan Reed/Matt Jones) with stupid mistakes, we will win by a comfortable TD margin. Meaning we will have a large enough lead that they might make a game of it late, but it will be over well before the final 2 minutes.

NC_Skins 12-21-2015 01:50 PM

Re: Week 15
 
Justin Blackmon with another DUI.

[url=http://cartercountysheriff.us/inmates.html]Carter County Sheriff's Office--Current Inmates[/url]


Such a waste of talent.

SFREDSKIN 12-21-2015 02:42 PM

Re: Week 15
 
Huge, huge loss!!!

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000606483/article/tyrann-mathieu-will-miss-the-season-with-a-torn-acl]Tyrann Mathieu will miss the season with a torn ACL - NFL.com[/url]

Chico23231 12-21-2015 02:44 PM

Re: Week 15
 
Warmup incident between Norman-OBJ

In Sunday's pregame warmups, at least one Panthers official carried black baseball bats on the field and was motioning with them towards Odell Beckham Jr. while making comments to him, according to Adam Schefter. Josh Norman later grabbed the bat and swung it in pregame warmups, which an NFL Films camera captured. Beckham, according to another source, felt threatened.

wtf

Alvin Walton 12-21-2015 02:56 PM

Re: Week 15
 
I saw that on his Facebook page.
Double WTF??????

mooby 12-21-2015 04:17 PM

Re: Week 15
 
According to ESPN it's a thing the Panthers do before every game, it symbolizes hitting home runs and bringing the wood. Might seem a little odd now after yesterday but if nobody gave a shit in their previous games I don't either.

Chico23231 12-21-2015 04:36 PM

Re: Week 15
 
[quote=mooby;1133766]According to ESPN it's a thing the Panthers do before every game, it symbolizes hitting home runs and bringing the wood. Might seem a little odd now after yesterday but if nobody gave a shit in their previous games I don't either.[/quote]

pretty much...sounds like ODB looking for an excuse.

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14416603/odell-beckham-jr-new-york-giants-suspended-one-game]Odell Beckham Jr. of New York Giants suspended one game[/url]

A selfish act might have ended the Giants season.

skinsfaninok 12-21-2015 04:40 PM

Re: Week 15
 
Giants were done yesterday imo but now they are for sure. I don't see them beating the Vikings on the road.

Chico23231 12-21-2015 04:43 PM

Re: Week 15
 
Giants fan here at work today defending ODB all day. Since the suspension came out...silencio.

Cant help but laugh

punch it in 12-21-2015 04:58 PM

Re: Week 15
 
[QUOTE=Chico23231;1133752]Warmup incident between Norman-OBJ



In Sunday's pregame warmups, at least one Panthers official carried black baseball bats on the field and was motioning with them towards Odell Beckham Jr. while making comments to him, according to Adam Schefter. Josh Norman later grabbed the bat and swung it in pregame warmups, which an NFL Films camera captured. Beckham, according to another source, felt threatened.



wtf[/QUOTE]


Apparently the bat on the sideline has been done before by panthers n other teams.

punch it in 12-21-2015 05:00 PM

Week 15
 
[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1133769]Giants were done yesterday imo but now they are for sure. I don't see them beating the Vikings on the road.[/QUOTE]


Credskins pointed out that just in case we lose on sat night we should root for gints. Cus that way they will have something to play for in week 17. We would need to beat dallas while gints beat philly. I hear ya tho. Gints r done.

NoCalHail 12-21-2015 05:03 PM

Re: Week 15
 
I'd love the Giants to drop the game against the Vikings. If there is any chance we could land the Vikings at home instead of Seattle.....Please happen.

punch it in 12-21-2015 05:16 PM

Week 15
 
[QUOTE=NoCalHail;1133774]I'd love the Giants to drop the game against the Vikings. If there is any chance we could land the Vikings at home instead of Seattle.....Please happen.[/QUOTE]


Only if we win Saturday night. Otherwise im the biggest giant fan goin
But yeah ill take Minnesota at home. Hell yeah.

CRedskinsRule 12-21-2015 05:30 PM

Re: Week 15
 
[quote=NoCalHail;1133774]I'd love the Giants to drop the game against the Vikings. If there is any chance we could land the Vikings at home instead of Seattle.....Please happen.[/quote]

Actually I'd rather have Seattle at Fedex. Maybe we can rough up the turf where Wilson might run, maybe install some popup sprinklers!

JoeRedskin 12-21-2015 06:21 PM

Re: Week 15
 
I would rather Seattle as well but for different reasons. Four years ago, it was Seattle that, ultimately, burst the RGIII bubble. A home playoff game is likely the last game RGIII will be a Redskin. Seems to sort of close the loop.

calia 12-21-2015 07:19 PM

Re: Week 15
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;1133782]I would rather Seattle as well but for different reasons. Four years ago, it was Seattle that, ultimately, burst the RGIII bubble. A home playoff game is likely the last game RGIII will be a Redskin. Seems to sort of close the loop.[/quote]

The circle of pain.

Giantone 12-21-2015 07:59 PM

Re: Week 15
 
[quote=Chico23231;1133768]pretty much...sounds like ODB looking for an excuse.

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14416603/odell-beckham-jr-new-york-giants-suspended-one-game]Odell Beckham Jr. of New York Giants suspended one game[/url]

A selfish act might have ended the Giants season.[/quote]

As I said before it's the right punishment.

skinsfaninok 12-21-2015 09:45 PM

Re: Week 15
 
Hightower looks good

J. Falcon 12-21-2015 09:47 PM

Re: Week 15
 
It's amazing when you think about it, Seattle has eliminated us from the playoffs the last 3 times we made it.

skinsfaninok 12-21-2015 09:57 PM

Re: Week 15
 
[QUOTE=J. Falcon;1133810]It's amazing when you think about it, Seattle has eliminated us from the playoffs the last 3 times we made it.[/QUOTE]
No Tampa did when we had brad Johnson and I believe we've only made it twice since then right?

SFREDSKIN 12-21-2015 10:00 PM

Re: Week 15
 
[url=http://iconosquare.com/p/1145316958146098355_224870476]😂 #steveharvey #cowboyssuck | Iconosquare[/url]

Chico23231 12-21-2015 10:14 PM

Re: Week 15
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1133813][url=http://iconosquare.com/p/1145316958146098355_224870476]😂 #steveharvey #cowboyssuck | Iconosquare[/url][/quote]

Lololololololol perfect

EARTHQUAKE2689 12-21-2015 10:24 PM

Re: Week 15
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1133812]No Tampa did when we had brad Johnson and I believe we've only made it twice since then right?[/quote]

2005 Seattle beats us aka the Carlos Rogers fail game
2007 Seattle beats us aka the Laron Landry 2 int game
2012 Seattle beats us aka the Robert Griffin knee game
2015 ?????????

J. Falcon 12-22-2015 06:39 AM

Re: Week 15
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1133812]No Tampa did when we had brad Johnson and I believe we've only made it twice since then right?[/quote]

That was back in 1999. We made it a whopping 3 more times since.


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