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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1116584]This worries me, especially since his play is relentless. I didn't know he elected not to have the surgery. I hope his gut instinct is right.

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/19026/redskins-lb-junior-galette-went-with-gut-instinct-to-avoid-surgery]Junior Galette went with gut instinct to avoid surgery - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url][/quote]

the article is saying it is, because he's back on the field now instead of 3 months from now (if he had had the surgery).

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[quote=That Guy;1116592]the article is saying it is, because he's back on the field now instead of 3 months from now (if he had had the surgery).[/quote]

Exactly!! So why don't other players skip the surgery? Sounds very risky in my opinion.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1116593]Exactly!! So why don't other players skip the surgery? Sounds very risky in my opinion.[/quote]

Everything about the entire situation around Galette sounds risky.

Which part were you talking about?

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1116595]Everything about the entire situation around Galette sounds risky.

Which part were you talking about?[/quote]

Torn pec recovery, non surgery.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1116596]Torn pec recovery, non surgery.[/quote]

Yes, definitely.

The article said he based his decision, at least in part, on the opinion of Dr. Andrews. That should inspire more confidence than in other players coming back from tears.

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Not all pec tears are created equal. If it was torn completely away from the bone then every doctor would say surgery (like Orakpo's). My understanding is it was not a complete tear for Junior.

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[quote=Schneed10;1116615]Not all pec tears are created equal. If it was torn completely away from the bone then every doctor would say surgery (like Orakpo's). My understanding is it was not a complete tear for Junior.[/quote]

From the article:

Galette suffered a complete tear of his pectoral muscle while benching 365 pounds on a day off in early June. He said he was taking the bar all the way down to his chest, something he said the Redskins don’t want their players to do. When he took the bar down on his sixth rep in June, it collapsed when his left shoulder gave out, forcing his spotter to help him. Galette knew immediately something was wrong.

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Ouch. Yeah then I don't get it.

Maybe doctors are evolving their thinking on care for torn pecs?

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He does holistic healing.
Doesnt immunize his kids either.....

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If this guy amounts to anything for the Skins color me shocked.

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Get your paints out everyone. We are going to be going Picasso on mredskins.

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he's a good player and he's already out on the field. i'd assume he gets 8 sacks this year.

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I gather from the article that his first diagnosis came when he was with the Saints. Since he was having all sorts of issues with the team, he didn't trust the surgery recommendation and sought a second opinion (Dr. Andrews). I guess from that perspective, I kinda see his point of not necessarily trusting a recommendation from a team he was having problems with.

As long as our medical staff is okay with him not having surgery, I guess I'm fine with it.

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Maybe we should just leave the MD stuff up to the MD's.

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[quote=Mattyk;1116633]Maybe we should just leave the MD stuff up to the MD's.[/quote]

Now why in the hell would we do that? I may not be a Dr. but I have seen an actor who played one on TV [I]AND[/I] I have stayed at a Holiday Inn! Clearly, my opinion is relevant and due considerable weight.

[brief [I]deja vu'[/I] moment as I recall saden1 lecturing me on how to read court opinions and the meaning of terms of art within the legal field - I still laugh]

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[quote=Mattyk;1116633]Maybe we should just leave the MD stuff up to the MD's.[/quote]

SACRELIGE!

:devil:

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[quote=mredskins;1116626]If this guy amounts to anything for the Skins color me shocked.[/quote]

You'll be shocked if a guy with 22 sacks the last 2 years is a good player here??

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It's just...different here, MK
The Dan will not doubt bad karma him outta' here or force Gruden to make Robert play linebacker.
Just sayin'......

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[quote=mredskins;1116626]If this guy amounts to anything for the Skins color me shocked.[/quote]

Bro you watch football games, right?

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We agree with other authors that acute [B]surgical repair ensures good to excellent results in up to 90% of the cases[/B] [12, 15] as [B]compared to 70% when treated non-operatively[/B]. Although both methods restore a full range of motion and pain relief, surgery is essential for restoration of normal strength and greater recovery of peak torques and work performed, especially for the athlete [2, 3, 7].

The technique for surgical repair varies from suturing the tendon to the periosteum [12], to the remaining tendon [11] or clavi-pectoral fascia [10]. Osseous fixation can be achieved through drill holes [7, 12, 15], barbed staples [5] and anchors [13].

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Im just confused on the diff btw a torn pec muscle and torn pec tendon.

how would you repair a torn muscle? suture it together? what would hold it in place? imagine the immobolizer you would need ... or when they say "torn pec muscle" they really mean torn pec tendon?

either way, obviously not getting surgery = greater risk of aggravation.

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edit - i removed the photo. i didnt mean to disturb anyone.

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jesus dude

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Just sat down to lunch and opened this thread. Think I'll go back to work now.

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Think I'll go stick my head in the microwave. I'm out.

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C'mon OTM, you really gonna leave the rest of us hanging like this?

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sir - it was just a photo of a surgery to repair a torn pec. here should be the link.

[url=http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/core/lw/2.0/html/tileshop_pmc/tileshop_pmc_inline.html?title=Click%20on%20image%20to%20zoom&p=PMC3&id=2267574_264_2006_171_Fig3_HTML.jpg]PubMed Central Image Viewer.[/url]

[url=http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2267574/]Rupture of the pectoralis major muscle: Surgical treatment in athletes[/url]

my office is full of spinal cord, muscle, nerve diagrams and models etc .. i even have a real persons entire lower right extremity. i often wonder how bad it would suck to have 1/4 of your body end up in some random dudes office pretty much in a drawer collecting dust.

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re galette - more likely than not he aggravates the injury imo.

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Listening to Keim yesterday on the radio, he gave Galette pretty high marks.

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[quote=over the mountain;1116760]sir - it was just a photo of a surgery to repair a torn pec. here should be the link.

[url=http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/core/lw/2.0/html/tileshop_pmc/tileshop_pmc_inline.html?title=Click%20on%20image%20to%20zoom&p=PMC3&id=2267574_264_2006_171_Fig3_HTML.jpg]PubMed Central Image Viewer.[/url]

[url=http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2267574/]Rupture of the pectoralis major muscle: Surgical treatment in athletes[/url]

my office is full of spinal cord, muscle, nerve diagrams and models etc .. i even have a real persons entire lower right extremity. i often wonder how bad it would suck to have 1/4 of your body end up in some random dudes office pretty much in a drawer collecting dust.

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re galette - more likely than not he aggravates the injury imo.[/quote]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/R2YXlTT.jpg[/IMG]

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[SIZE=6][B]Team official said a doctor will be here in a couple minutes to check on Junior Galette. Team official fear it's a torn Achilles. #redskins -Keim[/B][/SIZE]

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[quote=mredskins;1116626]If this guy amounts to anything for the Skins color me shocked.[/quote]
I guess I can stay white.

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Cursed franchise

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I hate being a fan of this team

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1117646]Cursed franchise[/quote]

I so agree.

I never thought Galette was bad I just know our luck and nothing like him will just fall to us without a some string attached.

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Man its not even week 1 and we already have Qb drama and now a starter already done smh

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[quote=mredskins;1117645]I guess I can stay white.[/quote]

If he disrupted the locker room or just played like ass, then I'd give you your due. You get no credit for the football gods striking his achilles with a random bolt of lightning.

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[quote=Schneed10;1117651]If he disrupted the locker room or just played like ass, then I'd give you your due. You get no credit for the football gods striking his achilles with a random bolt of lightning.[/quote]

I just knew something would happen. I figured his pec would tear again or the suspension would lengthy.

We all know this team, what good luck do we get? GOOSE EGG; everytime

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[quote=mredskins;1117652]I just knew something would happen. I figured his pec would tear again or the suspension would lengthy.

We all know this team, what good luck do we get? GOOSE EGG; everytime[/quote]

Ain't that the truth.

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dang, I was hoping if it was just a partial tear, he might be able to return this season but it seems a partial tear takes as long as full tear or rupture.

"Of the 31 players who sustained an Achilles tendon rupture, 21 (64%) returned to play in the NFL at an average of 11 months after injury. In the three seasons following their return, those 21 players saw significant decreases in games played and power ratings compared to the three seasons preceding the injury."

[url=http://lermagazine.com/article/return-to-football-after-achilles-tendon-rupture]Return to football after Achilles tendon rupture | Lower Extremity Review Magazine[/url]

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[quote=Schneed10;1117655]Ain't that the truth.[/quote]
I hope you don't think Iwas picking on you. I just keep seeing you so exicited about this guy and Iwas thinking S10 knows better something will happen.

We are all like 9 year old orphans hoping our new parents show up. Nobody is adopting us so why generate false hope.

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[quote=mredskins;1117658]I hope you don't think Iwas picking on you. I just keep seeing you so exicited about this guy and Iwas thinking S10 knows better something will happen.

We are all like 9 year old orphans hoping our new parents show up. Nobody is adopting us so why generate false hope.[/quote]

Not a bit. Even if you were, I can take it.

It's just that premier players at a select few premier positions don't hit the open market. QB, LT, pass rusher, WR. Teams don't let impact talent get away at those spots. The only way you come across them is drafting them.

So when we landed Galette I saw it as such a bonus, a potential MAJOR impact player at a position that doesn't grow on trees. It's the same with DeSean Jackson.

I wasn't looking at Galette to be the difference between 4-12 and 9-7, but he was a very important building block for the future. He represented a player we wouldn't have to address with a first rounder sometime in the next two seasons. Maybe he still can be, but I don't know how you sign him to a significant deal next offseason when there will be so many question marks about his first step coming back from this.

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