I can't believe anyone in their right mind would say that there's a QB controversy.

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[quote=Ruhskins;931987]I can't believe anyone in their right mind would say that there's a QB controversy.

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Me too. I heard quite a few calls for Cousins to start when I was listening to the radio after the game. Pretty ridiculous. Not gonna happen.

I like Cousins, but he wouldn't have played and better than RG3 given how well prepared the starters for the bears were...

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I've always hated the "game planning" argument, since we didn't game plan -- but neither did the other team.

However, anyone know if Shanny was testing something / someone out yesterday? Like the game before, it sure seemed like the strategy was to keep throwing to Banks to test him out, and keep running right to test those guys out. I wonder whether this time it was something to test the O-line (fail!), or to test the O-line with longer drops against the cover 2, etc.

Or maybe it was just a bad game.

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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/redskins-bears-five-observations-from-saturdays-game/2012/08/19/48fc7234-ea1e-11e1-87c7-93316b9dfff3_blog.html]Redskins-Bears: Five observations from Saturday’s game - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url]

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;931972]If he develops into a starter (and God willing he won't see any game action), unfortunately there's a salary cap. We won't be able to sign him to a reasonable contract as a back-up. We can hold him for his 4th yr., but after that he'll surely leave and we'll get nothing.

Grossman should only be here as long as Shanny Jr, to mentor the young QBs in his system, if he sees the field....we're F'd.[/quote]

Ok so I see what your saying about Cousins, but that means we have him for atleast 3 yrs and can trade him before his 4th year or find a way to pay him. 3 yrs for him to get better and show what he can do if he's asked to to be decent trade bait. Plus it give us time to draft another QB to develope to replace him.


Grossman should not be here at all. Period. Some how I was fooled into believing that his knowledge of the system was a valuable asset to the team. In hind sight all his interceptions proved he didn't have as much of a grasp on the system as one would think. Grossman was the weak link. If anything proved it it was him coming in during the first preseason game and (yet again) throwing INT's. WTF? Cousin came in and looked better. He came in during the second game and looked 10x better then Grossman ever has.

Lets get rid of the old and bring in the new. Heck I'd get rid of Crompton also, bring in some other young QB to sit on the PS and learn this year.

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[quote=44ever;931847]I just want the guy who can play the best football at QB in. If thats RG3 great. If its Cousins thats good too. What I don't want is to wait around like we did for Campbell. Personally I think Cousins has the better look in the NFL over RG3 at the moment but its way to early to speculate. One thing is for sure, between the both of them, I think we finally have our QB problems behind us. HTTR![/quote]

I agree that our QB problems are behind us, and that is solely due to one RG-3. Do you know what he could have done to the bears second string D? How can you say Cousins has the better look in the NFL - all you have seen him do better is play more snaps against a second team defense? Against the Bills RG-3 played better against the first string than Cousins did against the second string. Throughout camp RG-3 has proven to be the better QB - and that too has been against the better D. Just curious why you think Cousins has the better "look"?

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This just in...............Kirk Cousins had some good plays under center in week two of a PRESEASON game against a SECOND STRING defense. Can we please stop all of the talk - not only about a QB controversy - but also about all these options we have now - capable starter talk, trade bait and getting second round picks for him in four years - and everything else other than "glad the kid looked good last nite" - my God.

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;931930]If former Heisman Trophy winner Andre Ware gets a blindside shot on RGIII this whole organization should be imploded.[/quote]

:lol:

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[quote=punch it in;931999]This just in...............Kirk Cousins had some good plays under center in week two of a PRESEASON game against a SECOND STRING defense. Can we please stop all of the talk - not only about a QB controversy - but also about all these options we have now - capable starter talk, trade bait and getting second round picks for him in four years - and everything else other than "glad the kid looked good last nite" - my God.[/quote]

So how many picks would you give up for Captain Kirk if you were a gm??

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;932001]So how many picks would you give up for Captain Kirk if you were a gm??[/quote]

My point exactly............I dont know and I am certainly not going to base that decision on a few plays under center in pre-season week two against a second string D. Like I said, Im glad he looked good. Im going to need to see alot or at least alittle more before I call Captain Kirk a starting QB in this league.

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[quote=punch it in;932002]My point exactly............I dont know and I am certainly not going to base that decision on a few plays under center in pre-season week two against a second string D. Like I said, Im glad he looked good. Im going to need to see alot or at least alittle more before I call Captain Kirk a starting QB in this league.[/quote]

Well then your already more qualified than Vinny C!! You passed the test welcome aboard!!!

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[B]RG3[/B]
- one sack was RG3s fault, rookie mistake not recognizing a blitzing DB. Ball security has to get better.
- couple throws late/behind WRs. I beleive this is simply adjusting to the scheme and speed required being under C.
- RG3 again has to learn quickly he can't do what he did in college. He must pick his spots to run and avoid contact, he ain't helping us on IR. NFL guys can catch up to him and bring a much bigger wallop than NCAA.
- overall, not a bad game, his mistakes are very correctable.

[B]OL[/B]
- Gettis looked good early in run game. Got destroyed in pass-rush on his penalty early in the 1st qtr.
- Monty still getting blown back, partially size/strength issue, partially ZB scheme. When asking a guy to reach to a good 3 tech.....this will happen.
- TW, still not living up to his draft position and probably never will. Still looks soft around the middle and was over-powered by Peppers.
- Hopefully when Chester returns, between some combination of Hurt-Gettis (I'n thinking Gettis) at the other G, our interior OL will be OK. TW will be serviceable but never Pro Bowl caliber. Our concern will be at RT, hopefully between bringing help/scheme/RG3 this won't be a glaring issue....I don't want to jinx anything, but our depth at T is not good.

[B]Secondary[/B] - yikes! D. Hall embarrased in open field and looked poor overall.

Didn't watch the 2nd half but saw a couple Cousins highlights. When I first watched the 1st half, I was thinking a 4-6 win season. But after watching again, it wasn't as bad considering Fletch, Rak, Merriwether out. Cleaning up a few mistakes and we stay in the game against a very good Bears team.

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[quote=mbedner3420;931993]Me too. I heard quite a few calls for Cousins to start when I was listening to the radio after the game. Pretty ridiculous. Not gonna happen.

I like Cousins,[B] but he wouldn't have played and better than RG3 given how well prepared the starters for the bears were...[/B][/quote]
So it didn't matter who was playing the Bears.. They were always going to win?

Nobody actually believes in a QB controversy, it's just not everyday you have a freshly drafted rookie throw for 260 yards and 3 TDs in two quarters of play.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;932009][B]RG3[/B]
- one sack was RG3s fault, rookie mistake not recognizing a blitzing DB. Ball security has to get better.
- couple throws late/behind WRs. I beleive this is simply adjusting to the scheme and speed required being under C.
- RG3 again has to learn quickly he can't do what he did in college. He must pick his spots to run and avoid contact, he ain't helping us on IR. NFL guys can catch up to him and bring a much bigger wallop than NCAA.
- overall, not a bad game, his mistakes are very correctable.

[B]OL[/B]
- Gettis looked good early in run game. Got destroyed in pass-rush on his penalty early in the 1st qtr.
- Monty still getting blown back, partially size/strength issue, partially ZB scheme. When asking a guy to reach to a good 3 tech.....this will happen.
- TW, still not living up to his draft position and probably never will. Still looks soft around the middle and was over-powered by Peppers.
- Hopefully when Chester returns, between some combination of Hurt-Gettis (I'n thinking Gettis) at the other G, our interior OL will be OK. TW will be serviceable but never Pro Bowl caliber. Our concern will be at RT, hopefully between bringing help/scheme/RG3 this won't be a glaring issue....I don't want to jinx anything, but our depth at T is not good.

[B]Secondary[/B] - yikes! D. Hall embarrased in open field and looked poor overall.

Didn't watch the 2nd half but saw a couple Cousins highlights. When I first watched the 1st half, I was thinking a 4-6 win season. [B]But after watching again, it wasn't as bad considering Fletch, Rak, Merriwether out. Cleaning up a few mistakes and we stay in the game against a very good Bears team.[/B][/quote]
I think this is being underrated. It's hard to take our defense serious without Fletcher in the middle. Not to mention we were starting Cedric Griffin at CB. That had to have been a joke right?? Veteran courtesy??

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[quote=IrMitchell;932017]I think this is being underrated. [B][I]It's hard to take our defense serious without Fletcher in the middle.[/I][/B] Not to mention we were starting Cedric Griffin at CB. That had to have been a joke right?? Veteran courtesy??[/quote]On one big pass play for the Bears, DHall was changing a coverage pre-snap....resulting in a blown coverage and big Bears gain. We definitely don't want DHall calling coverages.

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[quote=punch it in;931998]I agree that our QB problems are behind us, and that is solely due to one RG-3. Do you know what he could have done to the bears second string D? How can you say Cousins has the better look in the NFL - all you have seen him do better is play more snaps against a second team defense? Against the Bills RG-3 played better against the first string than Cousins did against the second string. Throughout camp RG-3 has proven to be the better QB - and that too has been against the better D. Just curious why you think Cousins has the better "look"?[/quote]

I'm not supporting Cousins being better but if RG3 is getting the majority of the snaps and Cousins is hardly seeing any at all then Cousins looks pretty good against second stringers for the few snaps he's getting. Nice timing, nice accurracy, good decision making. Not that RG3 isn't but he is getting a ton of snaps and should look better.

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I Was just able to watch the game for the first time. Honestly not a bad performance by RG III I was expecting some horrible performance he wasn't nessecessarily bad, but it wasnt great either.

I am not going to heap much negativity on the team considering who they were playing, what if any type of game plan they had to play Chicago, and we really don't know what the coaching staff was trying to accomplish. The defense looked bad at times but what was Haslett's plan for his defense? Who were they trying to evaluate and in what situations? This is preseason and there is far more we don't know about the schemes to take to bashing players coaches or to fly off the handle about bad play.

Cousins played well and especially in the fourth quarter against whoever the Bears had out there.

I liked the Robinson and Briscoe sightings. BB flashed in the return game but he does in preseason and hasn't carried it over to the regular season.

I am wanting to see Crawford with the first team in game three. Cedric Griffin is pretty bad and is a liability against top flight WR.

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Positives:

Cousins
Aldrick Robinson
2nd String OL
Kehl
Crawford

Negatives:

1st string OL (only 2 regular starters)
Cedric Griffin (cut him now)
RGIII (the OL didn't really help him)
D.Hall (Big mouth, cheapshot who can't tackle)

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It'll be interesting if shanahan decides to start cousins in the next preseason game. After all its preseason, so there's no harm in preparing your second string qbs to take over in the event of rg3 getting injured midseason.

I wonder if C. Griffin was signed to make the rest of the secondary look better. He was pretty awful.

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i forgot to mention crawford. he's looked good in these 2 small samples

cedric griffin has looked turrbull in the 2 small samples

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[quote=iamsrk;932025]It'll be interesting if shanahan decides to start cousins in the next preseason game. After all its preseason, so there's no harm in preparing your second string qbs to take over in the event of rg3 getting injured midseason.[/quote]

Horrible idea and will not happen.

There is harm in it as well considering game 3 is usually considered the warm up for the regular season, and our rookie needs all the game reps possible.

If anything it will be interesting to see if he starts game 4 which is usually the game that the starters sit out entirely.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;932031]Horrible idea and will not happen.[/quote]

artmonkforhallofamein07

Horrible username and also not spelled right

try artmonkforhalloffamein07

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Two fs are not necessary

There is absolutely no chance cousins starts vs Ind.. I have a better chance of starting

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[quote=iamsrk;932025]It'll be interesting if shanahan decides to start cousins in the next preseason game. After all its preseason, so there's no harm in preparing your second string qbs to take over in the event of rg3 getting injured midseason.[/quote]

I would be shocked. If anything, RG3 needs more snaps with the first team to get chemistry down. Any inkling of Cousins being more ready to lead this team over RG3 is quite frankly insane. Not saying your implying this with the post iamsrk but that's what the notion would be if it occurred. Counterproductive on many levels.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;932035]There is absolutely no chance cousins starts vs Ind.. I have a better chance of starting[/quote]

Especially considering the team is selling 35$ tee shirts pumping the great preseason rivalry of Luck vs RG III. ;)

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Cousins very well could start...

Against the Bucs

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[quote=Mattyk;932040]Cousins very well could start...

Against the Bucs[/quote]

I would expect that honestly

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[quote=Mattyk;932040]Cousins very well could start...

Against the Bucs[/quote]

like the use of the....

for dramatic effect. you almost had me thinking...

regular season starter. for a millisecond.

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Crawford should be put against first teamers next week. He should be part of the competition for the 3rd cb spot. Griffin can't get any worst.

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[quote=Mattyk;932040]Cousins very well could start...

Against the Bucs[/quote]

These are 2 independent statements. Matty K is agreeing that cousins will start and then, on a completely unrelated note, he is saying that he is against the bucs. I wonder what wrong the bucs did to him.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;932047]Crawford should be put against first teamers next week. He should be part of the competition for the 3rd cb spot. Griffin can't get any worst.[/quote]

I like that. By the way where was Kevin Barnes? Did he even play?

[QUOTE=artmonkforhallofamein07;932037]Especially considering the team is selling 35$ tee shirts pumping the great preseason rivalry of Luck vs RG III. ;)[/QUOTE]

Where?? Lol

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;932003]Well then your already more qualified than Vinny C!! You passed the test welcome aboard!!![/quote]

LOL - thanks - My morning turd is more qualified than Vinny C so Im not sure how good that makes me feel. :)

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[quote=skinsfaninok;932052]Where?? Lol[/quote]

Check the Washington post insiders blog. They have a quick blurb about it and I would imagine the t shirts which look kinda like a comic frame of the two players are being sold in the Redskins Stores and online.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;932047]Crawford should be put against first teamers next week. He should be part of the competition for the 3rd cb spot. Griffin can't get any worst.[/quote]

We have been hearing about the kid for weeks and seen flashes in the first two games. I for one would like to see if he could be the real deal and I highly doubt that he would be worse then CG.

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[quote=SBXVII;932021]I'm not supporting Cousins being better but if RG3 is getting the majority of the snaps and Cousins is hardly seeing any at all then Cousins looks pretty good against second stringers for the few snaps he's getting. Nice timing, nice accurracy, good decision making. Not that RG3 isn't but he is getting a ton of snaps and should look better.[/quote]

RG-3 is getting the majority of snaps with the first string in camp, and also he is getting all of the snaps with the first string in the pre-season, - but Cousins is getting more snaps overall during these games so far. All being against second team defenses - my point is that if you let Cousins start a preseason game he will probably not put up the numbers he put up last nite. If you let RG-3 come in against the second team defense he will look like Superman - I know you are not saying Cousins is better than RG-3, but I dont think your being fair to RG-3 because comparing him to Cousins is comparing apples to oranges at this point. RG-3 has had about 15 pass attempts so far in the preseason - I would hardly call that a ton. Cousins has had about 50 - looked bad against Buffalo and good against Chicago - again that was against second string D

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RGIII sucks!! Bench him!! *grabs pitchfork and torch*

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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/bears-announcer-suggests-redskins-might-have-a-qb-controversy/2012/08/19/4802180e-e9ef-11e1-9ddc-340d5efb1e9c_blog.html]Bears announcer suggests Redskins might have a QB controversy - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post[/url]