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Outside a QB from the draft, I look for Shanny to get 2 more impact players from free agency at RB and WR for the offense.

If you take a look at both those positions in FA, the market is flooded with established players. Im gonna watch Hillis, Tolbert, and Lynch at RB as compliments to Helu and Royster/Hightower. At WR, DJax, VJax, Colston, and Bowe could all be available.

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[quote=Chico23231;865045]Outside a QB from the draft, I look for Shanny to get 2 more impact players from free agency at RB and WR for the offense.

If you take a look at both those positions in FA, the market is flooded with established players. Im gonna watch Hillis, Tolbert, and Lynch at RB as compliments to Helu and Royster/Hightower. At WR, DJax, VJax, Colston, and Bowe could all be available.[/quote]

If HT comes in next season A OK, then I see no need to bring in another FA RB. I could see us go for Bowe, and Colston would be hot, but at a very high price tag. I rather us get FA defensive players or a Guard/Center.

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[quote=Chico23231;865045]Outside a QB from the draft, I look for Shanny to get 2 more impact players from free agency at RB and WR for the offense.

If you take a look at both those positions in FA, the market is flooded with established players. Im gonna watch Hillis, Tolbert, and Lynch at RB as compliments to Helu and Royster/Hightower. At WR, DJax, VJax, Colston, and Bowe could all be available.[/quote]
I agree, I would put money on us signing Eddie Royal, at WR. I also think Michael Bush would be a great fit.

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I'd sign Bush and let HT go, start Helu.

WR I'd like Bowe but most would kill me for that, He's proven to be good w any qb

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I don't have a problem with Hightower and Helu and Royster. I'd look for a bruising RB. A power house to get those 2-4 yrds if needed on 3rd down. Unless Young is supposed to be able to do that.

Definitly we need a proven #1 WR. Stallworth is not the answer. I like Gaffney, AA is servicable, Hankerson hopefully will be ready, Austin will be one more year ready to take over for Moss who will still be on the team and maybe Robertson steps up.

I'd still go QB, then either WR or OL, then FS, CB, then OL.

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I live in Colorado so im forced to watch every Broncos game and Royal isn't that good. Also i think if we got a running back tolbert who is a good runner and reciver would be good. He sure is a bruiser

Royal was good his rookie year that's it

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Redskins needs in my opinion, in order of importance: QB, OL, CB, WR, NT, ILB, SS, TE, RB

QB-will be our first round pick next year, RGIII (my choice) or Barkley. I wouldn't be surprised if we draft a 2nd qb in a late round, I'd taken wheeden in the 4th or Moore in the 6th. Grossman likely the backup.

OL- 2nd round pick on LG or RT early second round is a great place to get these guys. Also, I think we will also try to sign a free agent hopeufully Grubbs, Williams, or Nicks to play guard. Make a great left side of the line.

CB- I've never been a big Hall fan, he gives up more big plays then he makes, just look at both Dallas Games this year. Wilson is mediocore. It would be great to get grimes or porter, more likely to get Thomas or Webb. Probably will get none of them and try to find depth or value draft picks


WR- Certainly a free agency fill. Would love to get Vjax, Bowe, or Garcon. I don't think Bowe or Garcon will leave their team and V jax is going to be expensive maybe too expensive. Also, Stevie Johnson would be a great pick up even though he does stupid things he is one of the few wideouts who beats revis would love to have him at a decent price.
I think we need an upgrade but Hankerson, Moss, Gaffney, and AA can be a competent if given a good qb. I think if we make a good FA grab then gaffney would be gone.
2013 we will us a first or second rounder to replace Moss especially if the QB of the future is looking solid.

NT- Hopefully we can get Soliai in FA. But since we just spent a good deal of money on our DLine I think it is more likely we resign carriker and roll with what we have.

ILB- Fletcher will be gone at latest in a couple years if not this year. We resign him and draft one maybe in the 3rd round to pair with Riley. Hopefully we can trade Rocky to a 4-3 team in need of a OLB, Patriots or Bears make the most sense.

SS- In all likelihood we Franchise Landry. Otherwise we pick up one more in FA.

TE- Resign Davis. Trade Cooley at a bargin probably a 4th or 5th rounder. Davis fits the mold of what the modern TE is becoming. Cooley cost too much and has been hurt too often. Maybe we spend a third round pick on a TE or a later on one.

RB- Lynch would be a great pick up for a low price. Otherwise we run with HT and Helu, maybe, MAYBE, Shanny will take Hillis if he is cheap.

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I think Mante Teo is going back to school for his senior year, I would love to see us look at him as Fletchers replacement next year.

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Barkley in rd 1
Dwight Jones in rd 2
Cliff Harris in rd 3
2 OL in rd 4
RB in rd 5 if we dont resign HT if we do then LB/S
QB and S in rd 6
LB in rd 7

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;865083]Barkley in rd 1
Dwight Jones in rd 2
Cliff Harris in rd 3
2 OL in rd 4
RB in rd 5 if we dont resign HT if we do then LB/S
QB and S in rd 6
LB in rd 7[/quote]

Sorry we wont get Barkley or Luck cause we will not be picking high enough in the draft. I would not give up any high picks to move up either. If their is not a QB worthy when in the spot we pick I say we take the best impact player. Look to draft a QB in the 2nd rd.

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^ RGIII will be

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[quote=skins89moss;865092]Sorry we wont get Barkley or Luck cause we will not be picking high enough in the draft. I would not give up any high picks to move up either. If their is not a QB worthy when in the spot we pick I say we take the best impact player. Look to draft a QB in the 2nd rd.[/quote]

I would be fine with that, if Barkley and RGIII are gone then:

Morris Claiborne in round 1
Ryan Tannenhill in round 2
Ryan Broyles in round 3
2 OL in round 4
Kellen Moore in round 5
RB and LB in round 6
BPA in round 7

but I prefer my other draft.

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RGB III looks like the perfect fit for Shanny's system: super mobile in and out of the pocket with a really accurate deep ball. We've really missed not having that in a QB for our passing attack. That being said, I wouldn't be opposed to a D-Jax or V-Jax addition, so we could really get vertical.

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[quote=musicmaster45;865065]I live in Colorado so im forced to watch every Broncos game and Royal isn't that good. Also i think if we got a running back tolbert who is a good runner and reciver would be good. He sure is a bruiser[/quote]
I say Eddie Royal, because he had the best rookie year of any of the 2008 recievers. It was also Shannahans pick. It was also Shannahan's last year, he had all those yards in his system. I thought he was injured and now he is playing under Tebow. Do you think the offense is holdong him back. I think he was hurt alot in the last two years and now he is under Tebow.

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Man, I wish this nightmare season was over and the draft was tomorrow. I cant take not having a QB anymore and I cant take all this crap. I am seriously beginning to think that Shannahan's job is in jeopardy. This season is turning into a major disaster.

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This video reminded me of myself watching any give Redskin game in recent memory. I always start off so happy.
[YT]QiBrPkGoqFM[/YT]

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[quote=T.O.Killa;865466]This season is turning into a major disaster.[/quote]

This season was a total disaster when Shanahan decided to go with Grossman and Beck and not draft a QB in the 2011 draft.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;865466]Man, I wish this nightmare season was over and the draft was tomorrow. I cant take not having a QB anymore and I cant take all this crap. [B] I am seriously beginning to think that Shannahan's job is in jeopardy.[/B] This season is turning into a major disaster.[/quote]

Regardless of what's happening this year or even next year, Shanny will be safe until his contract expires. Shanny told Snyder not to hire him unless he will have 5 full years to rebuild the team. If Snyder actually fires him before that, then I would not be surprised if there's nobody, or maybe very limited choices, lining up for the coach gig at here.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;865469]This video reminded me of myself watching any give Redskin game in recent memory. I always start off so happy.
[YT]QiBrPkGoqFM[/YT][/quote]

Hilarious

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[quote=GridIron26;865471]Regardless of what's happening this year or even next year, Shanny will be safe until his contract expires. Shanny told Snyder not to hire him unless he will have [B]5 full years to rebuild the team. If Snyder actually fires him before that, then I would not be surprised if there's nobody, or maybe very limited choices, lining up for the coach gig at here[/B].[/quote]

^^^^^^^^^^

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;865470]This season was a total disaster when Shanahan decided to go with Grossman and Beck and not draft a QB in the 2011 draft.[/quote]


embarrassing

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[quote=GridIron26;865471]Regardless of what's happening this year or even next year, Shanny will be safe until his contract expires. Shanny told Snyder not to hire him unless he will have 5 full years to rebuild the team. If Snyder actually fires him before that, then I would not be surprised if there's nobody, or maybe very limited choices, lining up for the coach gig at here.[/quote]

Well Shanahan has wasted one year and possibly two years of rebuilding due to mismanagement of the QB situation. Hopefully he won't f*ck things up next year.

My concern is that they'll get a QB and KS will screw him up by not adjusting to making him succeed (since their scheme philosophy is my way or the highway). This is the reason why I hope that they get the QB that fits their scheme, since they don't do a good job at making adjustment to make a player succeed.

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[quote=GridIron26;865471]Regardless of what's happening this year or even next year, Shanny will be safe until his contract expires. Shanny told Snyder not to hire him unless he will have 5 full years to rebuild the team. If Snyder actually fires him before that, then I would not be surprised if there's nobody, or maybe very limited choices, lining up for the coach gig at here.[/quote]
I know all od that, but Snyder can fire him if he wants to. Period. With the Redskins getting worse and not better, it would not suprise me. I think he deserves more time, but this total failure is tough to deal with.

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[quote=Ruhskins;865497]Well Shanahan has wasted one year and possibly two years of rebuilding due to mismanagement of the QB situation. Hopefully he won't f*ck things up next year.

My concern is that they'll get a QB and KS will screw him up by not adjusting to making him succeed (since their scheme philosophy is my way or the highway). This is the reason why I hope that they get the QB that fits their scheme, since they don't do a good job at making adjustment to make a player succeed.[/quote]

The offensive scheme is in place, the QB in place is not and as you can see Grossman or Beck are not the answer. Barkley or Luck are the answer, most likely Barkley

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;865501]The offensive scheme is in place, the QB in place is not and as you can see Grossman or Beck are not the answer. Barkley or Luck are the answer, most likely Barkley[/quote]

Well as I said, they better make damn sure the QB they select fits their scheme. I would hate to have them waste another year if they select the wrong QB.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;865501]The offensive scheme is in place, the QB in place is not and as you can see Grossman or Beck are not the answer. Barkley or Luck are the answer, most likely Barkley[/quote]

I really hope Barkley comes out this year, in the worst way.

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[quote=Ruhskins;865503]Well as I said, they better make damn sure the QB they select fits their scheme. I would hate to have them waste another year if they select the wrong QB.[/quote]

Me too. Unfortunately there is not much we can do except to trust that Redskins FO know what they are doing.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;865470]This season was a total disaster when Shanahan decided to go with Grossman and Beck and not draft a QB in the 2011 draft.[/quote]

I agree with this comment. Mike Shanahan could have drafted Blaine Gabbert or Ryan Mallet and both of them would be better than what the Redskins have now with Grossman and Beck. In my countless years as a Redskin fan, I've never witnessed a season where no one could play the quarterback position. Maybe Heath Shuler was the only one I can think of that played just as poorly as Beck and Grossman has played this season. Grossman is turnover machine. I've never witnessed a QB turn the ball over so much.

But I understand that the Redskins drafting for defense for Ryan Kerrigan. They needed that extra pass rush considering where the defense finished in the first year in the 3-4. Now, Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan need to badly and desperately draft a quarterback.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;865531]I agree with this comment. Mike Shanahan could have drafted Blaine Gabbert or Ryan Mallet and both of them would be better than what the Redskins have now with Grossman and Beck. In my countless years as a Redskin fan, I've never witnessed a season where no one could play the quarterback position. Maybe Heath Shuler was the only one I can think of that played just as poorly as Beck and Grossman has played this season. Grossman is turnover machine. I've never witnessed a QB turn the ball over so much.

But I understand that the Redskins drafting for defense for Ryan Kerrigan. They needed that extra pass rush considering where the defense finished in the first year in the 3-4. Now, Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan need to badly and desperately draft a quarterback.[/quote]

Um, Gabbert would have been [I]purely[/I] an "upside" pick. That is, his on-field results might not be good at all, but simply because he's young, he could "develop". He is far worse than Ponder or Dalton right now. He was even benched for McCown.

Newton and Dalton look like future stars, ponder is ok so far and gabbert looks like a rookie out there so give it a couple years

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[quote=T.O.Killa;865498]I know all od that, but Snyder can fire him if he wants to. Period. With the Redskins getting worse and not better, it would not suprise me. I think he deserves more time, but this total failure is tough to deal with.[/quote]

I think the Skins are making strides in the right direction. This team has very little talent (especially on O) from years of player mis-management and its going to take awhile to build up the talent level to where the Skins can compete on a weekly basis.

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Philis sorry arsses are going to steal our draft pick!!!!!!!!!

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;865607]Philis sorry arsses are going to steal our draft pick!!!!!!!!![/quote]
Dont forget we play them. I cant see us beating them.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;865625]Dont forget we play them. I cant see us beating them.[/quote]

Especially now that T. Cole is in and T. Williams is out. Could be bad. Plus, Vick seems like he wants to prove something the final four games...

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I heard on Sirius today that Cooley was a free agent after this season. Is that true. I was sure he was under contract.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;866522]J heard on Sirius today that Cooley was a free agent this season. Is that true. I was sure he was under contract.[/quote]

Cooley under contract for at least 3 more years.

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[quote=Chico23231;866524]Cooley under contract for at least 3 more years.[/quote]
Thats what I thought, but does he have one of those voiding contracts?

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[quote=T.O.Killa;866526]Thats what I thought, but does he have one of those voiding contracts?[/quote]

No, and he is a fa after the 2013 season.

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[quote=Chico23231;866524]Cooley under contract for at least 3 more years.[/quote]

What's important is his cap numbers...