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[quote=SmootSmack;636366]Mike Nugent also coming in tomorrow[/quote]

I was hoping for Ted Nugent.

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We're a 3-9 team and as such, we're not fighing for a playoff spot. what on earth do we have to gain by cutting Suisham and signing another kicker for the remaining 4 weeks of our season? No one who'd be on the market now is worth keeping around in 2010, so we might as well keep the guy we got, see if he redeems himself, and then address the position as necessary in the offseason. I don't see how there's anything to be gained by "side-grading" the position now.

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We know exactly what we have in Suisham. A kicker who does fine with 80% of his extra points, but can't come in and make a clutch kick....time to move on.

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[quote=Mattyk72;636496]I can't call bringing in kickers "kneejerk" when guys like Dungy have gone on record saying the would have cut Suisham right after the game.

I don't think Suisham will get cut, this is a wake up call more than anything. We've done this to him before and he's responded.[/quote]

Yes, but HOW MANY TIMES have we been forced to makes trheats against his job? Far too often. He's lost 2 of the last 3 games for us. This is not the first time in his career that he's gone on these shanking sprees. I wanted him gone for a reason after last season and we've failed to upgrade a key position once again and are now in the "it's too late" phase with yet another part of the team, much like the o-line.

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[quote=Chico23231;636493]It absolutely hilarious we are bringing in kickers. Szab this morning said it best driving into work, very typical knee jerk reaction by the FO and most likely initiated by the owner. As die hard fans we call for the kickers head after a couple bad games and look to him to put this Saints loss squarely on him...when we had Landry give up 14 pts, Moore lose a fumble that went the other way, and a coach/bingo caller who is 3-8 this season run it 3 straight time in the 10 yard line when JC is playing his best game of the season and could put the game away...but Snyder who people state shouldnt listen to the fans is acting exactly like a fan and is going to cut a kicker (who sux dont get me wrong) but is our best option at this point in the season.....its really hilarious, still doesnt beat the knee jerk 2nd round pick for Taylor[/quote]
It's a lot easier to find a mediocre kicker than it is to cut someone that you spent a high 1st round draft pick on.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;636537]We're a 3-9 team and as such, we're not fighing for a playoff spot. what on earth do we have to gain by cutting Suisham and signing another kicker for the remaining 4 weeks of our season? No one who'd be on the market now is worth keeping around in 2010, so we might as well keep the guy we got, see if he redeems himself, and then address the position as necessary in the offseason. I don't see how there's anything to be gained by "side-grading" the position now.[/quote]

It's simply completing a move that should have been done in the preseason.

He didn't deserve a spot on the team at all. Sure he came out with a good start to the season, but recently he's returned to the kicker we all knew he actually is.

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[quote=Chico23231;636493]It absolutely hilarious we are bringing in kickers. Szab this morning said it best driving into work, very typical knee jerk reaction by the FO and most likely initiated by the owner. As die hard fans we call for the kickers head after a couple bad games and look to him to put this Saints loss squarely on him...when we had Landry give up 14 pts, Moore lose a fumble that went the other way, and a coach/bingo caller who is 3-8 this season run it 3 straight time in the 10 yard line when JC is playing his best game of the season and could put the game away...but Snyder who people state shouldnt listen to the fans is acting exactly like a fan and is going to cut a kicker (who sux dont get me wrong) but is our best option at this point in the season.....its really hilarious, still doesnt beat the knee jerk 2nd round pick for Taylor[/quote]

-Players are often brought in for tryouts on Tuesdays, still it's not knee-jerk to bring in kickers to try out after ours just missed yet another key field goal

-Zorn calls the plays inside the red zone. And I think Lewis has done enough in his career and this past month to stop being dismissed as a bingo caller

-Freak play on the Moore fumble. To his credit, he did what few defensive backs have done for the Redskins...intercept the ball

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Yeah, I can't fault Moore, he made a great INT when we're used to balls bouncing off our defenders' hands. Freakish play....good job by Meacham too.

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[quote=tryfuhl;636563]It's a lot easier to find a mediocre kicker than it is to cut someone that you spent a high 1st round draft pick on.[/quote]

I hear ya, but I dont want anybody cut at this point. It will make no impact and pointing the finger at the kicker solely for this loss is funny. People talk about accountability all of a sudden...cut the people who created this 3-9, hitting-the-bottom team of poor losses to the Lions among others...why start at the kicker? Lets get to real problem: 1. Vinny 2. Zorn both gone, that will make the statement to the team. Install Gray at head coach and promote someone to whatever BS title he holds now which essentially is "YES MAN." Yeah cut the kicker...Wooooooooooooow...very predictable

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[quote=Ruhskins;636504]What's the deal with him...I remember a few years ago he was supposed to be a good kicker coming out of college (OSU I believe).[/quote]

"Cat Scratch Fever" Nugent played for the Jets until he was hurt in the first game of last year and released. He had a cameo appearance with Tampa earlier this year.

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[quote=Buster;636564]It's simply completing a move that should have been done in the preseason.

He didn't deserve a spot on the team at all. Sure he came out with a good start to the season, but recently he's returned to the kicker we all knew he actually is.[/quote]

but theres no sense making a move now. there's 4 weeks left in the season. the more field goals he misses, the better it is for us as we'll just secure a higher draft pick. besides, theres no one out there now who'll do a better job anyways.

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From Twitter:

Adam_Schefter

Kickers the Redskins are working out today: Mike Nugent, Shane Andrus, Graham Gano, Nick Novak.

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[quote=Chico23231;636586]I hear ya, but I dont want anybody cut at this point. It will make no impact and pointing the finger at the kicker solely for this loss is funny. People talk about accountability all of a sudden...cut the people who created this 3-9, hitting-the-bottom team of poor losses to the Lions among others...why start at the kicker? Lets get to real problem: 1. Vinny 2. Zorn both gone, that will make the statement to the team. Install Gray at head coach and promote someone to whatever BS title he holds now which essentially is "YES MAN." Yeah cut the kicker...Wooooooooooooow...very predictable[/quote]
If one of these young guys works out we have him before anybody sticking with their kicker for the year does, depending on the contract. If you figure Suisham to be cut after the year you might as well bring someone in that you may carry into next year.

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[quote=jdlea;636600]From Twitter:

Adam_Schefter

Kickers the Redskins are working out today: Mike Nugent, Shane Andrus, Graham Gano, Nick Novak.[/quote]
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Andrus]Shane Andrus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

Heh.. he replaced Nugent on the Bucs then got cut himself.

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My money is on Gano. Nuget was replaced by Andrus who was replaced by Connor Barth. We already know what Novak can't do because Suisham replaced him.

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Suisham is out. Gano is in.

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[quote=Mattyk72;636632]Suisham is out. Gano is in.[/quote]

On ESPN980, Zorn said he didnt even speak to Suisham. Is that unusual?

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[quote=Mattyk72;636632]Suisham is out. Gano is in.[/quote]
is this official?

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I love being right, even if it is only 25% of the time

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;636633]On ESPN980, Zorn said he didnt even speak to Suisham. Is that unusual?[/quote]

Probably means it wasn't his call to make.

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I'm going to lock this because we don't need three threads on our kicker