Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

[QUOTE=MTK;1247782]Not surprised by this move at all. With the possibility of a shortened offseason we need someone in the building that knows the system.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]I am thinking most fans want to see us winning the off-season.
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Let the FO make their moves and the season will show the quality of the plan. After 20 years of a broken FO and every strategy under the sun, I am going to go out on a limb and say that fans of the Skins won't know a good plan when we see it.

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Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

[quote=MTK;1247782]Not surprised by this move. With the possibility of a shortened offseason we need someone in the building that knows the system.

Don’t hate this move at all.

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Agree.

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

[quote=SunnySide;1247780]dude .. its a 5th rounder for a 24 year old QB who has already played 12 games in the NFL and our new HC and OC seem to like.

if it was a 6th, everyone would be fine with it.

give RR a little more patience and leway then immediately condemning him.

its a 5th rounder ffs. good lord

besides we do have a GM in Smith[/quote]

I want Kyle Smith to be the GM but this year he isn't and Rivera has the last word on the roster.

We now don't have a 2nd a 5th or 6th rounder and we have lots of holes.

And he only has this year on his contract. He can walk after this year.

We don't have the draft capital to use a 5th rounder.

Hate the trade. Its nothing against the player himself. Just doesn't make sense to me.

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1247773]This is why HCs can't be the general manager. Need a non biased professional GM.[/quote]

LMAO.

Bias? You mean like the Panthers, with their non biased Head Coach bringing in his old College QB - PJ Walker?

You call it bias, but in reality it's more about familiarity and fit. It's what all 32 teams do with regard to players and all levels of their staffs.

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1247769]When you draft a backup QB in rounds 5-7, you have that player on a cheap rookie contract for 4 years. This is the last year of Allen's rookie deal. Next year he either walks or we have to pay him decent backup money.

we have a had a HIGH fifth round pick - this was way too much for Allen. Should have been one of the 7ths.[/quote]

Obviously a 7th wasn't going to get it done.

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1247781]Drafting chase young isn't going to make us a winner right now, I'd just stock up on picks and add more talent[/quote]

Yes, I hear ya and agree. Went on a bit of a tangent there ... seems like we never use our full yearly cap amount anymore and just roll 10-15 million into next seasons cap .. only to not use it and roll another 10-105M into next season ... I get the approach and agree with it ... as long as it is done to set up youre "all in" year. Which i guess is going to be 2022.

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1247791]Obviously a 7th wasn't going to get it done.[/quote]

Then get someone else. He wasn't the last backup QB in the world.

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1247793]Then get someone else. He wasn't the last backup QB in the world.[/quote]

Nope, but he was who they wanted.

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1247787]I want Kyle Smith to be the GM but this year he isn't and Rivera has the last word on the roster.

We now don't have a 2nd a 5th or 6th rounder and we have lots of holes.

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I understand.

Think of it this way.

2 hours ago we had a "back up QB" hole. And now weve plugged that hole with someone who can help bring Haskins up to speed faster .. and it only took a 5th at 585K cap hit.

I wouldnt get so upset with what we did with a 5th rounder to condemn RR as an idiot or needing his decision making power completely stripped.

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

[quote=SunnySide;1247792]Yes, I hear ya and agree. Went on a bit of a tangent there ... seems like we never use our full yearly cap amount anymore and just roll 10-15 million into next seasons cap .. only to not use it and roll another 10-105M into next season ... I get the approach and agree with it ... as long as it is done to set up youre "all in" year. Which i guess is going to be 2022.[/quote]

If this dude threatens Haskins job, we'll be talking Trevor Lawrence / Justin Fields in 2021.

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

Some of you are looking at this all wrong.

Teams have to prepare for the very real possibility of no mini camps and no offseason program until training camp. That's a huge issue when you don't have any QB's on the roster that know the offense.

This isn't about Allen being brought in as a threat to Haskins, it's about having a very short term bridge to Haskins if need be. Because learning a new offense on the fly in training camp is not an ideal situation and it would be asking a lot from a 2nd year guy.

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

[quote=SunnySide;1247796]I understand.

Think of it this way.

2 hours ago we had a "back up QB" hole. And now weve plugged that hole with someone who can help bring Haskins up to speed faster .. and it only took a 5th at 585K cap hit.

I wouldnt get so upset with what we did with a 5th rounder to condemn RR as an idiot or needing his decision making power completely stripped.[/quote]

Never said he was an idiot. Overall I'm pretty happy with all of our prior moves. Just don't like this one. Especially considering he can walk after this year.

Note - I've always wanted a real GM. Never a fan of the HC as the head decision maker.

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1247800]Never said he was an idiot. Overall I'm pretty happy with all of our prior moves. Just don't like this one. Especially considering he can walk after this year.

Note - I've always wanted a real GM. Never a fan of the HC as the head decision maker.[/quote]

If you keep stirring up trouble around here, I'm going to call up Dan Snyder and convince him to bring back Smithers. That'll fix your wagon!

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;1247803]If you keep stirring up trouble around here, I'm going to call up Dan Snyder and convince him to bring back Smithers. That'll fix your wagon![/quote]

I'd trade all of our picks for him before that.

Re: Skins trade for Kyle Allen
 

Wow. Really don't understand the vitriol some are reacting with. Good young backup QB with experience, knows the system and the OC, and has a salary of $585K. Folks are acting as if it is a foregone conclusion that the Redskins were going to draft a future HOFer in round 5. The price is more than fair for what we are getting, IMO. Good move.