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Monkeydad 03-04-2014 10:01 AM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
Kerry pledged $1 billion in energy subsidies to Ukraine.


Well that's a nice first course of action.


[url=http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/03/04/1-billion-thats-how-much-kerry-just-pledged-to-ukraine-and-putin-breaks-his-silence/]$1 Billion: That’s How Much Kerry Just Pledged to Ukraine — and Putin Breaks His Silence | TheBlaze.com[/url]

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/kerry-in-kiev-pledges-1-billion-in-us-aid/2014/03/04/9f425fc0-a398-11e3-84d4-e59b1709222c_story.html]Kerry, in Kiev, pledges $1 billion in U.S. aid - The Washington Post[/url]




Meanwhile, our military is training...

[url=http://theweek.com/article/index/257285/speedreads-gay-and-lesbian-troops-perform-in-drag-on-american-military-base]Gay and lesbian troops perform in drag on American military base - The Week[/url]

Alvin Walton 03-04-2014 10:17 AM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
That's a billion wasted dollars.
:-(

Monkeydad 03-04-2014 10:18 AM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
Hey, what's a billion dollars theses days. You can spend that on a website that doesn't work!

HailGreen28 03-04-2014 01:01 PM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
Viktor Yanukovych looks less and less like the legitimate President of Ukraine, to me. When the next elections happen, what will Putin do if a majority of Crimeans vote against the way the western Ukraine does?

NC_Skins 03-04-2014 05:21 PM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
[quote=Monkeydad;1061433]Hey, what's a billion dollars theses days. You can spend that on a website that doesn't work![/quote]

...or give it to old rich white guys so it can trickle down. :doh:

NC_Skins 03-04-2014 05:25 PM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
[url=http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/we-control-everything-crimea-breaks-ties-with-ukraine/article17266761/]‘We control everything’: Crimea breaks ties with Ukraine - The Globe and Mail[/url]


LOL. Nobody believe this bullshit propaganda coming out of Crimea.

Chico23231 03-04-2014 06:23 PM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;1061432]That's a billion wasted dollars.
:-([/quote]

The compassion on this board is inspiring.

Alvin Walton 03-04-2014 08:02 PM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
[quote=Chico23231;1061542]The compassion on this board is inspiring.[/quote]

It has nothing to do with compassion.
If Putin decides to steamroll The Ukraine then that billion may well have been paintball guns we gave them.

HailGreen28 03-05-2014 06:28 AM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
[URL="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/we-control-everything-crimea-breaks-ties-with-ukraine/article17266761/"]Crimea’s new Prime Minister says he is taking control of all military forces and government departments in the territory, declaring an official break with Kiev.[/URL]

Monkeydad 03-05-2014 09:52 AM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
[quote=NC_Skins;1061538]...or give it to old rich white guys so it can trickle down. :doh:[/quote]

At least it would stay in our own country.


Your brainwashed anti-rich posts are getting tiring. :doh:


That last one even had racist overtones. The former hippie, still pot-smoking colleges professors everywhere are proud of you.

dmek25 03-05-2014 10:03 AM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
i agree with NCskins, and im not anti rich...im pro middle class

CRedskinsRule 03-05-2014 10:55 AM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;1061548]It has nothing to do with compassion.
If Putin decides to steamroll The Ukraine then that billion may well have been paintball guns we gave them.[/quote]

It's not going to happen, but I personally doubt the Russian Army would steamroll the Ukranian army. In the Georgia episode, the Georgians shot down 20 of the Russians planes. I saw an infographic the other day that showed the comparable forces in the region, and Ukraine was at around a 3-1 disadvantage. That might mean Russia would win, but I think it would be very costly. I am personally a little surprised, and very glad, from a not wanting bloodshed point of view, that the Ukrainian government didn't respond with force.

dmek25 03-05-2014 11:05 AM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
^^^ i agree with this

RedskinRat 03-05-2014 11:19 AM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
A couple of Ukrainian barracks had their weapons confiscated by the first wave of Russian Airborne, there won't be too much of a fight.

over the mountain 03-05-2014 11:31 AM

Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
 
Putin is becoming a big pain but I cant help but think that all our proxy wars with former USSR nations that border current Russia (attempting nato missile defense system in Poland and Turkey, steering Ukraine pro EU/West, totally destabilizing Iraq, sanctioning Iran) is the reason.

We have effed with Russia repeatedly with countries right at their door step and Putin is right to say the US sits across the pond and treats other countries like lab rats in political experiments.

I despise Putin but we are serious international jerks.

I also think Putin was very dumb to act so unilaterally and aggressively and the US and EU can really capitalize on this opportunity. No one is standing with Russia on this.

Russian economy has lost over 75 billion on Monday alone.

USA can now justify some of their clandestine political interference.


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