Re: We've got big trouble on the OL.
 

[quote=SmootSmack;927652][B]You know who no one is talking about at all anymore is Eric Cook. It's like he's fallen off the face of the earth.[/B]

I'll admit to being wrong about Jammal Brown, prognosis does not look good[/quote]

He certainly didn't help himself last year when he got a shot to play. He's gotta be a longshot to make the team this year I would think.

Re: We've got big trouble on the OL.
 

[quote=Mattyk;927638]Problem is he lost about 25 lbs this offseason to play LB. He's now at 244.[/quote]

LaRon Landry's essentially out of football now. We're hire him as a PT.

Bulk up fast!

Re: We've got big trouble on the OL.
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;927654]I think he's finally sticking with defense. I did hear he is the 3rd string CB behind Wilson & Hall.



LOL ... F'ing brilliant - perfect description of him.[/quote]

He's actually competing with Gano and Rackers

Seriously though, he has been working with the TEs

Re: We've got big trouble on the OL.
 

[quote=mredskins;927655]Another way to look at it:

Pass protection is made up of 3 elements
1)WR/TE their ability to get open run correct routes
2) QB play able to make quick decisions/scramble
3) Blocking (OL, TE, RB's shoot even WR's on some plays)

IMO the Redskins have upgraded 2 of 3 elements listed above those alone should improve our over all pass protection. To just say OL most improve only is actually very short sighted.[/quote]

Yes. This. True. Word. Preach

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:laughing2[quote=Monkeydad;927659]LaRon Landry's essentially out of football now. We're hire him as a PT.

Bulk up fast![/quote]

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Lets make a list of all rostered linemen. I'm thinking we're actually deeper than we're giving ourselves credit for.


Tackles:
77 Brown, Jammal
60 Black, Jordan
74 Polumbus, Tyler
69 Smith, Willie
71 Williams, Trent
68 Compton, Tom
75 Lee, James


Guards:
66 Chester, Chris
73 Gettis, Adam
79 Hurt, Maurice
67 LeRibeus, Josh
62 Martinez, Nick
78 Lichtensteiger, Kory (G/C)


Centers:
61 Garner, Grant
58 Cook, Erik (C/G)
63 Montgomery, Will (C/G)

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[quote=Monkeydad;927673]Lets make a list of all rostered linemen. I'm thinking we're actually deeper than we're giving ourselves credit for.


Tackles:
77 Brown, Jammal
60 Black, Jordan
74 Polumbus, Tyler
69 Smith, Willie
71 Williams, Trent
68 Compton, Tom
75 Lee, James


Guards:
66 Chester, Chris
73 Gettis, Adam
79 Hurt, Maurice
67 LeRibeus, Josh
62 Martinez, Nick
78 Lichtensteiger, Kory (G/C)


Centers:
61 Garner, Grant
58 Cook, Erik (C/G)
63 Montgomery, Will (C/G)[/quote]

You may be correct. What is worrying, though, is how genuine that tackle depth is. SS reported above that Willie Smith has been struggling. Graziano reports here that Polumbus has been struggling. This leaves the question open regarding what kind of RT play we will get.
[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/41258/impressions-from-monday-redskins-practice]Impressions from Redskins practice - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

Personally I'm not joining the sky-is-falling chorus but I am concerned a bit.

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[quote=SmootSmack;927652]You know who no one is talking about at all anymore is Eric Cook. It's like he's fallen off the face of the earth.

I'll admit to being wrong about Jammal Brown, [B]prognosis does not look good[/B][/quote]

What you hearing? Im putting the over/under at Week 6.

Re: We've got big trouble on the OL.
 

[quote=Monkeydad;927673]Lets make a list of all rostered linemen. I'm thinking we're actually deeper than we're giving ourselves credit for.


Tackles:
77 Brown, Jammal [B]Always hurt[/B]
60 Black, Jordan [B]Who?[/B]
74 Polumbus, Tyler [B]Decent Backup[/B]
69 Smith, Willie [B]Regressing and hurt [/B]
71 Williams, Trent [B]Solid starter[/B]
68 Compton, Tom [B]Unknown[/B]
75 Lee, James [B]Pu-leeze![/B]


Guards:
66 Chester, Chris [B]Average[/B]
73 Gettis, Adam [B]Unknown[/B]
79 Hurt, Maurice [B]Showed promise[/B]
67 LeRibeus, Josh [B]Unknown[/B]
62 Martinez, Nick [B]Huh?[/B]
78 Lichtensteiger, Kory (G/C) [B]Good player[/B]

Centers:
61 Garner, Grant [B]No[/B]
58 Cook, Erik (C/G) [B]Failed to impress[/B]
63 Montgomery, Will (C/G) [B]Average[/B][/quote]

Depth has never been the key to a great OL. It's 5 talented starters who can stay healthy and play together as a smooth functioning unit. We don't have that.

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The thread title reminded me of this:

[IMG]https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcROG11XAMwcb3gFFbh9VEp8P9qzWJrIFm4DA5LBbPqSv3cJLUd8[/IMG]

Re: We've got big trouble on the OL.
 

[quote=Mattyk;927650]Let's see what Josh L, Gettis, Hurt, and Compton can do. Next man up.[/quote]

Yup. I think that's the plan and I am good with that. It's how depth is developed. Look around the league - how many solid O-Lines are built with mid to low level draft picks. Just look at those in our own division:

[B][U]DALLAS[/U][/B]:
LT: T. Smith, 1st Round*
LG: Dockery, 3rd Round (Skins)
C: Phil Costa, Undrafted.
RG: Kosier, 7th Round (San Fran)
RT: D. Free, 4th Round

[B][U]NEW YORK:[/U][/B]
LT: Dave Diehl, 5th Round
LG: Kevin Booth, 6th Round (Oakland)
C: David Baas, 2nd Round (San Fran)
RG: Chris Snee, 2nd Round
RT: Kareem McKenzie, 3rd Round (Jets)

[B][U]PHILADELPHIA:[/U][/B]
LT: Demtrius Bell, 7th Round (Buffalo)
LG: Evan Mathis, 3rd Round (Carolina)
C: Jason Kelce, 6th Round
RG: Danny Watkins, 1st Round
RT: Todd Herremans, 4th Round

*If no team indicated, player was picked by current team.

[I]Caveat - Got the starters from ESPN Depth charts with certain changges I was aware of but not reflected (D. Bell for example).[/I]

Lots of guys who have bounced around, were low picks, etc. No one in our division has more than one guy that [I]they themselves picked [/I]in the 3rd round or higher.

O-Lines come together in different ways and from different places. Just b/c we don't know who's the starter today doesn't mean someone isn't going to step up. We have lots of young bodies and Shanny has a long history of making lineman out of mid to low round picks.

Am I concerned? Sure. Do I think the sky is falling? Nope. I firmly believe that the line, while it could always improve, will be fine and that RGIII is not being guarded by a bunch of turnstiles (or even by one for that matter).

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^^ I think the problem is depth at the tackle position and quality of starter at RT, especially depending on Smith's status.

Re: We've got big trouble on the OL.
 

[quote=InsaneBoost;927632]Guys, guys, we don't need an OL, we have RGIII. His line was "terrible" at Baylor (LOL).[/quote]

He was LITERALLY blocking for himself.

[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=107997&draftyear=2012&genpos=OG]Robert T. Griffin | Baylor, OG : 2012 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]

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[quote=Chico23231;927676]What you hearing? Im putting the over/under at Week 6.[/quote]

Reportedly working on a "waived-injured" injury settlement

Re: We've got big trouble on the OL.
 

Well, that sucks. I hear what everyone is saying about the lack of talent and depth at tackle - particularly since it sounds as if the guys we were counting on to step up have actually stepped back and Brown is done.

Time for Compton to show us what a steal he was. <sigh>