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Heyer is an upgrade over Jansen.
Dockery is an upgrade over Kendall
Rienhart is a much better player that has shown he can start for Thomas
Thomas is much healthier, than he has been in a while.
Mike Williams still has a ways to go, but I think he will be a great back up for us.
Montgomery looks like a big improvement over Giesinger.
ED Williams looks like he would be a better option this year then Rienhart was last year.
Batiste looks like they just got very confused, I would rather have Fabini, or Brigdes.

All, in all, I think we are much improved.

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Eight-year veteran offensive tackle Langston Walker just got released by Buffallo....

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Cardinals released OL Elton Brown and sigened Jeremy Bridges!!!! What was the FO thinking.....

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[quote=ChickenMonkey;585888]Cardinals released OL Elton Brown and sigened Jeremy Bridges!!!! What was the FO thinking.....[/quote]

I think the FO was thinking this:
1) Bridges is a fine guard but struggled as a tackle and we need a tackle
2) what Bridges would give us is only marginally better than what we would get from our younger guys and we need to give the younger guys playing time

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[quote=T.O.Killa;585868]Heyer is an upgrade over Jansen.
Dockery is an upgrade over Kendall
Rienhart is a much better player that has shown he can start for Thomas
Thomas is much healthier, than he has been in a while.
Mike Williams still has a ways to go, but I think he will be a great back up for us.
Montgomery looks like a big improvement over Giesinger.
ED Williams looks like he would be a better option this year then Rienhart was last year.
Batiste looks like they just got very confused, I would rather have Fabini, or Brigdes.

All, in all, I think we are much improved.[/quote]

Is Heyer an improvement over Jansen in his prime? Maybe, the jury is out on that one. As for Rhinehart, Thomas in his prime was a damn good guard - maybe Rhinehart will be as good as Thomas and that would be fine. Montgomery seems to me to be about the same as Rabach - maybe. Again, Kendall was a damn good guard for us, Dockery may be as good but I don't think he is an upgrade except that he is younger.

Obviously, these guys are upgrades over the players on the wrong side of 30, but are they as good as the guys they are replacing when those guys were playing well? At his best Jansen was borderline pro-bowl, same for Thomas - I just don't see that in the future of either Heyer, Rhinehart or Dockery. As for the back up depth, I see your point. I think this year's backup's are an upgrade over last year's, but, really, is that saying very much?

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[quote=Lotus;585908]I think the FO was thinking this:
1) Bridges is a fine guard but struggled as a tackle and we need a tackle
2) what Bridges would give us is only marginally better than what we would get from our younger guys and we need to give the younger guys playing time[/quote]

I think that is spot on.

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[quote=Lotus;585908]I think the FO was thinking this:
1) Bridges is a fine guard but struggled as a tackle and we need a tackle
2) what Bridges would give us is only marginally better than what we would get from our younger guys and we need to give the younger guys playing time[/quote]

Im just wondering how many sack does that equate to? Bridges has been a starter and seen live bullets, the only BU we have with experience at tackle is 4yrs from playing a snap!!!!Young is all good but, experience is priceless...

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[quote=JoeRedskin;585912]Is Heyer an improvement over Jansen in his prime? Maybe, the jury is out on that one. As for Rhinehart, Thomas in his prime was a damn good guard - maybe Rhinehart will be as good as Thomas and that would be fine. Montgomery seems to me to be about the same as Rabach - maybe. Again, Kendall was a damn good guard for us, Dockery may be as good but I don't think he is an upgrade except that he is younger.

Obviously, these guys are upgrades over the players on the wrong side of 30, but are they as good as the guys they are replacing when those guys were playing well? At his best Jansen was borderline pro-bowl, same for Thomas - I just don't see that in the future of either Heyer, Rhinehart or Dockery. As for the back up depth, I see your point. I think this year's backup's are an upgrade over last year's, but, really, is that saying very much?[/quote]
I was strictly speaking of last year. Jansen was a beast before he tore his Achilles tendon.

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[quote=ChickenMonkey;585923]Im just wondering how many sack does that equate to? Bridges has been a starter and seen live bullets, the only BU we have with experience at tackle is 4yrs from playing a snap!!!!Young is all good but, experience is priceless...[/quote]

Well, you are correct. We will witness the young bucks making mistakes for sure. But that is how they grow up. Otherwise we are an old and fragile OL like the Cowboys. The Cowboys have 5 geriatrics and nothing behind them on the OL. At least we have some promising young bucks.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;585795]Well I have another name for anyone in who could say yay/nay. Bills just released [URL="http://www.nfl.com/players/profile?id=WAL257548"]Langston Walker[/URL]. Money is always an issue, but if Dockery puts in a good word, who knows, he certainly seems to have some influence.[/quote]

He looked awful when i saw them on NFL Network against the Lions. Please he is garbage.

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[quote=ChickenMonkey;585888]Cardinals released OL Elton Brown and sigened Jeremy Bridges!!!! What was the FO thinking.....[/quote]

The Cards looked terrible in preseason and they went 9-7 last seaason. This team is not going to make the playoffs this year. Well I guess Elton Brown is not as good as Bridges. Didn't Elton Brown go to UVA?

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[quote=skins89moss;585939]He looked awful when i saw them on NFL Network against the Lions. Please he is garbage.[/quote]
Yeah, people were all over me saying we should sign Brohm, because he was cut. They only kept two QBs and had another good young QB. This guy got cut from the worst Oline in football

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They moved Walker to LT after they lost Peters. He's a much better RT.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;585941]Yeah, people were all over me saying we should sign Brohm, because he was cut. They only kept two QBs and had another good young QB. This guy got cut from the worst Oline in football[/quote]

Not the same situation as Brohm at all.

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[quote=Lotus;585945]They moved Walker to LT after they lost Peters. He's a much better RT.[/quote]

We have Heyer there now, and Big Mike backing him up. Damn we could have the Bills entire line if we sign Langston Walker. Is that good? LOL. He better take the Vet minimum then.