Re: Boldin a Redskin?
 

[quote=celts32;546826]Trading for Boldin would be a top 5 stupid move of the Snyder era.[/quote]

Out of curiousity, what are the top 5 currently in your opinion?

Re: Boldin a Redskin?
 

[quote=Angry;546728]Anquan Bolden and Santana Moss are essentially the same type of reciever. Short pass= long run. The only real difference is the body type and the playmaking ability in the redzone. We would still need somebody to stretch the field and win "Jump Balls" much like Fitzgerald did for the Cards last season. I like Moss deep on occaision, but that is not his strength, though he can wheel a man up...quick.

Essentially what I am saying is that whether we have Moss, Bolden, or both we would still have a need for another reciever that is more of a typical deep threat/ jump ball kind of guy.

With that being said, I do not think that it would be a wise decision to proposition any type of trade for Anquan Bolden whether it be Moss and a first rounder, or a first and a third, or whatever. I like Boldin alot, but we would not be adding much more with him offensively and we have other needs that need to be addressed more than the recieving corps.[/quote]

I probably have more faith in our WR developing than most fans but I think in Thomas we have someone who is Boldin/Brandon Marshall-lite. He's got the size, hands and power to get good RAC, occasionally get down the field against one on one coverage and can get the extra few yards against a CB trying to tackle him one on one.

Kelly projects to be a Colston/Fitzgerald type at his peak. I'm not saying he will match their production, but similarities in tools and skills. Not blazing speed but good enough. The main attribute will be the ability to go up and get the ball where defenders can't reach. He's not going to outrun many people deep or run away from many people after he gets the ball, but if he's running a seam or fade route, just put it up there and let him climb the ladder for it against a CB or S.

We need to see what we have before we can say what we want.

Re: Boldin a Redskin?
 

Offensive line!!!!!!! Offensive line!!!!!!! Offensive line!!!!!!!!! We do need Boldin for sure, but what we really need is let's say it in unison an OFFENSIVE LINE!!!!!!! Can't give up our top picks anymore. Our two top picks are the ones that will be the only ones to make the team anyway probably.

Re: Boldin a Redskin?
 

[quote=GusFrerotte;546917]Offensive line!!!!!!! Offensive line!!!!!!! Offensive line!!!!!!!!! We do need Boldin for sure, but what we really need is let's say it in unison an OFFENSIVE LINE!!!!!!! Can't give up our top picks anymore. Our two top picks are the ones that will be the only ones to make the team anyway probably.[/quote]

Have to agree. OL!!

Re: Boldin a Redskin?
 

Here's a question for you...lets say due to the Bills unloading a OT...that they grab one in the draft and all top 4 OTs are gone...plus other top talent...would you then consider trading that top pick plus a conditional 3rd next year for Boldin?...I might, if we have the cap room...we'd then have to get a FA tackle or use the 3rd...then bring back M washington

As much as I want an OT like the rest of you...the only major factor is age...remember, these same guys were great a year ago...prior to the season it was considered the strength of the team...if we miss out on all top 4 OT's...and we have no other options...it may make sense to get a major playmaker with that pick...after all that is what first rounders are supposed to be used for...however...if we didn't get the crap scenario...I say stick to plan A (the draft)

Re: Boldin a Redskin?
 

[quote=htownskinfan;546692]would you give up Thomas and Kelly for Boldin?[/quote]

without blinking.

Re: Boldin a Redskin?
 

[quote=jsarno;546833]Out of curiousity, what are the top 5 currently in your opinion?[/quote]

1. Signing Jeff George
2. Signing DEION "!*%*&%$" SANDERS
3. Hiring Cerrato
4. Not firing Cerrato
5. Signing Randle EL to a sick amount of money...I could go on but I won't. It's too late for a rant.

Re: Boldin a Redskin?
 

[quote=sandtrapjack;546714]I don't think Boldin goes anywhere. If this was the last year of his contract, then it is a strong possibility.

But he has 2 years remaining. And for a team to pry him away from the Cards, they would have to make an enormous offer.

The Cards say a 1st and a 3rd rounder. But that is where the bidding STARTS. It will take more than that to actually get the Cardinals to agree.

Then after 2 or more draft picks and maybe a player or two are dealt, the team that acquires him still has to sign Boldin to a contract. And he is looking for a big payday.

I think the price would be too steep for anyone.[/quote]

I agree. The Cardinals can hold the flame to suitors. He's under contract with THEM for two more years so he can piss and moan all he wants but it wont get him too far. If he bucks, they'll fine the poop out of him and he'll eventually show up to training camp and play. If someone antes up, then they should get a 1st or 2nd rounder ideally. The longer the contract the higher the compensation...just like baseball. Nobody wants to pay a high price for a 6 month rental. If nothing else, a team trading for him this year would have him for two years if he didn't agree to a fat extension.

Re: Boldin a Redskin?
 

[quote=Eknox;546830]No thanks, how bout this for an idea, let's keep our draft picks and use them. Awww come on everybody's doing it..lol[/quote]

You're on it.

Re: Boldin a Redskin?
 

I think Boldin is good, but will excel when put in a similar situation he is in now: an elite receiver that can take attention off him. He is more of a possession guy. I see him as a lookdown guy who can act as almost a RB for short passes and screens. hmmmm... the Bills just got an extra #1 pick...

Re: Boldin a Redskin?
 

Would I give up Thomas and Kelly for Boldin? In a word, YES!


Here is why that deal would never get done. Vinny would have to be wearing a mask and carrying a gun to get the Cards to agree to it.


Here is why Danny Boy won't even propose the trade. He does not want to hear from a sorry-assed franchise that his two prized young receivers aren't worth taking in exchange for a disgruntled receiver who wants out of Arizona.

Re: Boldin a Redskin?
 

[quote=GusFrerotte;546917]Offensive line!!!!!!! Offensive line!!!!!!! Offensive line!!!!!!!!! We do need Boldin for sure, but what we really need is let's say it in unison an OFFENSIVE LINE!!!!!!! Can't give up our top picks anymore. Our two top picks are the ones that will be the only ones to make the team anyway probably.[/quote]

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Re: Boldin a Redskin?
 

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I'm not sure who you want us to draft. :laughing-

Re: Boldin a Redskin?
 

[quote=Angry;546728]Anquan Bolden and Santana Moss are essentially the same type of reciever. Short pass= long run. The only real difference is the body type and the playmaking ability in the redzone. We would still need somebody to stretch the field and win "Jump Balls" much like Fitzgerald did for the Cards last season. I like Moss deep on occaision, but that is not his strength, though he can wheel a man up...quick.

Essentially what I am saying is that whether we have Moss, Bolden, or both we would still have a need for another reciever that is more of a typical deep threat/ jump ball kind of guy.

With that being said, I do not think that it would be a wise decision to proposition any type of trade for Anquan Bolden whether it be Moss and a first rounder, or a first and a third, or whatever. I like Boldin alot, but we would not be adding much more with him offensively and we have other needs that need to be addressed more than the recieving corps.[/quote]

Well put from start to finish.

Re: Boldin a Redskin?
 

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