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I also belive the latest report was there is supposed to be 15 dead dogs known to be barried on the property and possibly a total of 30. The police do have a search warrant to search for the dead dogs but have not decided if they will exicute it or not. New off of NFL network I think.

Re: Michael Vick Update - Outside the Lines
 

[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;313998]After reading [URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/05/29/vick0604/index.html"]this[/URL] article and seeing the attached pictures, it's pretty hard to swallow the notion that Vick had no involvement in the operation. I know a [I]jury[/I] must presume innocence and can only convict a defendant upon finding guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, but I've pretty much made up my mind about the guy based on the article and the pics.[/quote]

Good article, but I fail to see how it proves Vick's guilt (or how any of the pictures shed light on the situation). If he is convicted then he will face consequences, but can we reserve judgement for just a moment? Plus, the article also made the point that convicting Vick would prove a boon to prosecutors and others who wish to publicize the evils of dogfighting and scare others off from participating so they have their own agenda in pursuing Vick. I'd let the thing play out and see what happens rather than rushing to conclusions.

Also, for those worried about NFL security, I think they are generally pretty tough. They investigate guys coming out of college and they tipped off Roger Goodell that Pac Man had visited a strip club the night before the two met in New York to discuss Pac Man's suspension.

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The county this happened in is very small and I would think has a very small police force. This is probably the biggest thing to happen to this small city and I think the investigator working this case has had to go out and buy a few suits.

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[quote=firstdown;314100]The only thing that could hurt the NFL worse than having multiple players involved is to be accused of hampering or sabotaging a legal investigation. [B]I think your totaly wrong on that point[/B] and the NFL has just offered any help it could provide. That is really the only thing the NFL can do to help keep its image from getting dragged through the mud. If the NFL takes the appropriate steps if people are found guilty I don't think they will suffer from this. It would be only if they turned their back on the situation and let the players off. Which I don't think will happen.[/quote]

Your make a good point and I definitely hope you are right.

Re: Michael Vick Update - Outside the Lines
 

SC_Skins_Fan,

I've rushed to conclusions about Vick because the evidence sounds pretty bad and, more importantly, I'm not on the jury. As for the pictures, it seems incredibly hard to believe that Vick would not have noticed those structures in the back of his house. Moreover, given that the structures are there, that Vick has obviously been to his house, and that I doubt that Vick thought he was raising pitbulls for the Westminster dog show, it's pretty safe to assume that he was involved in dog fighting. I come to that conclusion without even considering the alleged eyewitness accounts of Vick being deeply involved in and a witness to the dog fights.

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Didnt Vick only visit this place every now and then. Every now and then being like once or twice a year? I may be wrong and if I am, please correct me.

I'll wait until he is proven guilty. And I don't want to see someone go to prison just because I think "they're overrated". I'd rather him go to prison for breaking a very severe law.

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Informants come foward, what's next.

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2887894"]ESPN.com: Report: Informants link Vick to dogfighting[/URL]

Finally Poin on camera.....
[url=http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=6589602]WAVY TV 10 - News, Weather, Traffic, Sports for Hampton Roads, Virginia - North Eastern North Carolina - Gerald Poindexter explains why he is not executing search warrant[/url]

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[QUOTE=saskin;314407]Didnt Vick only visit this place every now and then. Every now and then being like once or twice a year? I may be wrong and if I am, please correct me.

I'll wait until he is proven guilty. And I don't want to see someone go to prison just because I think "they're overrated". I'd rather him go to prison for breaking a very severe law.[/QUOTE]

Something tells me that Vick's home care-taker didn't just decide, "I'll start this pit bull operation and build a bunch of sh-t on his property and hope he doesn't find out." The notion that Vick didn't know about the many buildings and dog runs on his property is simply unbelieveable. Does anyone really think otherwise?

My assumptions are not going to send him to jail and I'm not a media mouthpiece, so I feel fine with making such assumptions. I think they're perfectly rational and probably right.

Re: Michael Vick Update - Outside the Lines
 

[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;314373]SC_Skins_Fan,

I've rushed to conclusions about Vick because the evidence sounds pretty bad and, more importantly, I'm not on the jury. As for the pictures, it seems incredibly hard to believe that Vick would not have noticed those structures in the back of his house. Moreover, given that the structures are there, that Vick has obviously been to his house, and that I doubt that Vick thought he was raising pitbulls for the Westminster dog show, it's pretty safe to assume that he was involved in dog fighting. I come to that conclusion without even considering the alleged eyewitness accounts of Vick being deeply involved in and a witness to the dog fights.[/quote]

I agree. He knew what was going on. Plus someone has to bank role the operation. Someone had to finance it. The cops took away 60 some dogs. I can't imagine the cost to take care of that many dogs. According to the cops they were all in good shape and well fed.

Re: Michael Vick Update - Outside the Lines
 

[quote=skinsfan_nn;314489]Informants come foward, what's next.

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2887894"]ESPN.com: Report: Informants link Vick to dogfighting[/URL]

Finally Poin on camera.....
[URL="http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=6589602"]WAVY TV 10 - News, Weather, Traffic, Sports for Hampton Roads, Virginia - North Eastern North Carolina - Gerald Poindexter explains why he is not executing search warrant[/URL][/quote]

Thank you. I am terrible at links(and everyone wants them) and feel better knowing that I was somewhat close to the trueth. I'm also wondering when the cousin is going to get charged for welfare fraud. Wasn't there something said that he was collecting welfare because he did not make enough money to support himself but was living in a mansion? Yea...ok....I'll collect welfare and sleep at Vicks house so I don't have to pay rent or a mortgage and I'll use Vicks credit card to buy food....incase you know Vick pops in. lol. I wish I could live in the White House and collect welfare.

Re: Michael Vick Update - Outside the Lines
 

Just saw on local Richmond news (ch. 8) Mike Vicks house (the one where the dog fighting took place) is currently being raided agian. I guess they are going after the deceased dogs that are susposed to burried in the back.

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Feds are taking over the Vick case. He is busted!!!!!!

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Yes the feds raided his home yesterday and the local guy running the invet. was ticked off. The funnest thing came out yesterday as someone interviewed his cousin who was living in the home. He was acting like he had no idea that the dogs where on the property and said the dogs where planted by the investigators. He said the only dog he had was a toy puddle.

Re: Michael Vick Update - Outside the Lines
 

[QUOTE=firstdown;316558]Yes the feds raided his home yesterday and the local guy running the invet. was ticked off. The funnest thing came out yesterday as someone interviewed his cousin who was living in the home. He was acting like he had no idea that the dogs where on the property and said the dogs where planted by the investigators. He said the only dog he had was a toy puddle.[/QUOTE]


That means Poindexter is now officially off Vick's payroll.