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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1191478]See my comments above your post. Bruce Allen is not a qualified GM and his track record says it all.


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How do you define BA's track record? I'm not pro or con, Just want to know what criteria you are using to judge it.

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Wins and losses record. Failure to Field a winning team. 1 playoff win in his tenure


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Or actually 0 payoff wins. Just 1 appreance


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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1191478]See my comments above your post. Bruce Allen is not a qualified GM and his track record says it all.


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I agree.

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1191488]Wins and losses record. Failure to Field a winning team. 1 playoff win in his tenure


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Gotcha, it's actually 2 playoff appearances 0 wins under his tenure. Do you feel Gruden should go, or just BA?

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I actually think they should’ve kept Shanahan and let him work with cousins like he originally wanted to do


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I think Gruden has done a decent job with the hand he’s been dealt. I hold Bruce Responsible for the personnel moves, the draft moves, the front office moves, and the one giving Gruden the players to work with or lack there of


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I hold Bruce responsible for the failed cousins contract dating back years, and I hold Bruce responsible for letting Shanahan go and giving RG3 the benefit of the doubt. Over the past few years watching where Griffin ended up and watching where cousins ended up let us know Shanahan was right all along And Bruce was wrong all along. Bruce’s poor ass decision set this team back years, but yet he still here and Shanahan’s at home laughing his ass off

Ronald McDonald would do better as a GM

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1191494]I hold Bruce responsible for the failed cousins contract dating back years, and I hold Bruce responsible for letting Shanahan go and giving RG3 the benefit of the doubt. Over the past few years watching where Griffin ended up and watching where cousins ended up let us know Shanahan was right all along And Bruce was wrong all along. Bruce’s poor ass decision set this team back years, but yet he still here and Shanahan’s at home laughing his ass off

[B]Ronald McDonald would do better as a GM[/B]

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I think Cleveland have already signed him as an advisor. :silly:

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1191494]I hold Bruce responsible for the failed cousins contract dating back years, and I hold Bruce responsible for letting Shanahan go and giving RG3 the benefit of the doubt. Over the past few years watching where Griffin ended up and watching where cousins ended up let us know Shanahan was right all along And Bruce was wrong all along. Bruce’s poor ass decision set this team back years, but yet he still here and Shanahan’s at home laughing his ass off

Ronald McDonald would do better as a GM

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I would have liked to see Shanahan as a coach only and BA as the GM.

I don't think you can exclusively fault Bruce for RG3. I think Shanahan was agreeable to the RG3 trade when it happened.

Only a few people really know what role Bruce played in that compared to DS and MS.

I do blame him for Kirk but the end of that story has yet to be written. I'm completely comfortable NOW with AS as the QB, especially at the cap number he is at.

I believe people forget when MS had full control our salary allocation pretty much neglected the defense.

The spending was totally weighted toward the offense. I couldn't find a link from the Shanny era but below is the current situation.

overthecap.com/salary-cap/washington-redskins/

Right now we are offense heavy but it is not crazy out of whack. Only a 20m differential.

Also, I think people forget how the bogus salary cap penalty killed our depth. We still signed paid higher priced stars but lost out on quality depth guys.

Admittedly, I have a knee jerk reaction to moves and inaction but i am fine with the way the roster, and in particular the draft has been handled.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1191501]I would have liked to see Shanahan as a coach only and BA as the GM.

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[B]I believe people forget when MS had full control our salary allocation pretty much neglected the defense.

The spending was totally weighted toward the offense. I couldn't find a link from the Shanny era but below is the current situation.[/B]

overthecap.com/salary-cap/washington-redskins/

Right now we are offense heavy but it is not crazy out of whack. Only a 20m differential.
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I don't know about spending, but it was reflected in our net points.
In Shanahan's 4 years, our net points were: -75, -79, 48(RG3 title year), -144
Gruden's first year: -137
Gruden's remaining years:9(KC's title year), 13, -46 (this year but I think injuries added in to that, the DL looked alot better when Allen/Ionnaidis were on the line rotation)

So the discrepancy that Shanahan was creating on defense definitely showed up in the stats.
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Also, I think people forget how the bogus salary cap penalty killed our depth. We still signed paid higher priced stars but lost out on quality depth guys.

Admittedly, I have a knee jerk reaction to moves and inaction but i am fine with the way the roster, and [B]in particular the draft has been handled.[/B][/quote]
I pointed this out in other threads, but this FO has been very good with the draft, both in terms of quantity of picks and quality of players.

2010 - 1 player still in NFL (TW)
2011 - 4 players
2012 - 6 of 9
2013 - 4 of 7
2014 - 5 or 8
2015 - 7 of 10
2016 - 7 of 7
2017 - 10 of 10 (more important is the quantity since we know some of these guys, like Samaje Perine for example, may not last)

I took these from Pro football reference.com's draft lists. That is really good talent scouting and drafting.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1191504]I don't know about spending, but it was reflected in our net points.
In Shanahan's 4 years, our net points were: -75, -79, 48(RG3 title year), -144
Gruden's first year: -137
Gruden's remaining years:9(KC's title year), 13, -46 (this year but I think injuries added in to that, the DL looked alot better when Allen/Ionnaidis were on the line rotation)

So the discrepancy that Shanahan was creating on defense definitely showed up in the stats.

I pointed this out in other threads, but this FO has been very good with the draft, both in terms of quantity of picks and quality of players.

2010 - 1 player still in NFL (TW)
2011 - 4 players
2012 - 6 of 9
2013 - 4 of 7
2014 - 5 or 8
2015 - 7 of 10
2016 - 7 of 7
2017 - 10 of 10 (more important is the quantity since we know some of these guys, like Samaje Perine for example, may not last)

I took these from Pro football reference.com's draft lists. That is really good talent scouting and drafting.[/QUOTE]I agree, we are definitely trending in right direction.
The Smith trade really was one of the best ways possible to come out of our (mainly self inflicted) QB mess.

It is strange though: (of course depending on how we draft and how our picks play) but if we sign Hankins I'll be pretty high on our FA, and if we don't I won't get the logic of what they're trying to do... carrying cap space onto next year when you just traded for a 33 years old top 15~12 QB doesn't make much sense IMO.

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I agree. I thought they had been being cautious the last few years with the hope they could sign the old qb, but now that he is gone it seems like they could put a winning offer out there. Of course they also have done well by having cap space available later in free agency for Norman and DJax but you don't always get something like that.

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1191492]I actually think they should’ve kept Shanahan and let him work with cousins like he originally wanted to do


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Nice job of jumping on this thread about 2018 Free Agents and taking it back to the Dark Ages.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1191510]Nice job of jumping on this thread about 2018 Free Agents and taking it back to the Dark Ages.[/QUOTE]I fell right into the trap!! Face palm.

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